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作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-4-26 08:58
标题: 蜀道西望
这样显然又太简单了。大家帮忙想想，能将此局改成啥样？

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-4-28 19:35
啊，局名是另起的！

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-4-29 13:19

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-4-29 22:45
因上楼是红方有攻势。红可以不走速和的着法。双方会如何演绎呢？

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-2 19:55

以上改法有一毛病，就是和法太多。还是希望大家提出自己的改局！！！

期盼！

作者: 抱不平 时间: 2008-5-9 16:48

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-9 17:18

一将一杀判和？

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[此贴子已经被作者于2008-5-9 17:19:56编辑过]

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-9 19:07
上楼末后的形势是黑一将一要杀。红是一杀一要抽！

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-9 19:36

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-9 16:48:00的发言：

怎样才能欣赏到您的作品?

啊：
您看不到“java”动态棋盘。
请下载“msjavax86”。
本想上传该软件。但是现在上传不了。
抱歉！

作者: 667 时间: 2008-5-9 19:41

华工象棋论坛 → 棋行天下 → 象棋总坛 → [新手必讀]如何在本论坛贴JAVA动态棋盘等幫助文件

本論壇看不到棋盘,請下載java虚拟机

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-10 10:10

QUOTE:

以下是引用hzsjy在2008-5-9 19:07:00的发言：
上楼末后的形势是黑一将一要杀。红是一杀一要抽！

红方的帅五平六和要抽没有关系，因此不能算抽，黑必须变着。

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-10 11:09

23着红进车底线要连将抽黑车。
24着黑平车要杀。
25着红平帅解杀还杀。
26着黑平车还将解杀。
27着红平帅解杀还打（因红帅平六后，黑车处于被抽的状态。而要抽车是从第23着开始的，这是不停的打与还打。)，红方平帅具二种作用。这一段着法符合二条棋规：
27.4　
凡走子兼具多种作用时，应从重称呼和裁处。如杀兼捉，按杀；捉兼况，按捉等，依此类推。
28.3　捉
凡走子后能够造成在下一着(包括从下一着开始运用连续照将或连续交换的手段)吃掉对方某个无根子，称为“捉”。

以上是个人的看法。
（如有错误那此局过一段时日可能会合规的。因“中国象棋”已正式定名为“象棋”了。棋规也要符合“智奥会”和兼顾世界各地的习惯的。上局符合“亚规。呵呵。）

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-10 11:18

第七章　第6条

　6.　凡是原来已经捉着子的子或相关子，走动后无新的捉子行为(即从捉到捉)均捉闲着处理(见图六、图七、图八)。

　红方在走帅五平六前已经存在抽子，帅五平六后无新的捉子行为，应按闲处理。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-10 11:28
“亚规”也，“世规”也罢，都是通过棋规增加和棋的机会，缩小棋力差距的影响，给大陆以外的棋手以机会，但国内比赛的规则改变却肯定要向逼棋手向能变则变的方向发展。排局也应该向求变的方向发展，如动不动就不变作和，太无味了。

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-5-10 11:29:38编辑过]

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-11 09:03

象棋棋例与待判局面的裁决

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作者: 抱不平 时间: 2008-5-11 11:04

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试解:炮七平四车6平7,炮三进八车3平4,车一平八象1退3,车八进九车4平3,车八退一车3平4,车八平七象3进1,车七平八车4平3,兵五平六马6退4,车八平六将4平5,兵四平五将5平6,车六进一红胜.

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-11 13:16

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-11 11:04:00的发言：
试解:炮七平四车6平7,炮三进八车3平4,车一平八象1退3,车八进九车4平3,车八退一车3平4,车八平七象3进1,车七平八车4平3,兵五平六马6退4,车八平六将4平5,兵四平五将5平6,车六进一红胜.

第2回合黑方车３平４劣，改走炮５平４可胜！

作者: 抱不平 时间: 2008-5-11 18:04

QUOTE:

以下是引用yjr123在2008-5-11 13:16:00的发言：

第2回合黑方车３平４劣，改走炮５平４可胜！

车5平4是好棋!红走车一进五后还看不出黑有取胜着法.

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-11 18:44
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作者: 抱不平 时间: 2008-5-12 07:08

QUOTE:

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3.车3进2好棋!车一平七象1进3,兵四进一车9平7,相五退三至此我认为胜负难分.

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-12 07:43
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作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-12 08:58

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-12 7:08:00的发言：

3.车3进2好棋!车一平七象1进3,兵四进一车9平7,相五退三至此我认为胜负难分.

金甲护迁驰白马(未知)

作者: 抱不平 时间: 2008-5-12 11:22

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2008-5-21 15:18
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作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-21 17:12
标题: 回复：２４楼

嗯：

这样走有点复杂．初步想了一下，请看看：

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-21 17:16
还要请教：
您讲的＂双马连环＂的着法是怎样演变的？

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-21 17:51
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2008-5-21 18:29
回26楼，这个你还记得啊，那是才看到棋局说的，现在看来，似乎不太可能。

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2008-5-22 08:05
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2008-5-22 17:56

另外你3楼的速和着法，好像也有复杂变化

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作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-22 19:33

QUOTE:

以下是引用★星海★在2008-5-22 17:56:00的发言：

另外你3楼的速和着法，好像也有复杂变化

第17着红车六退一即可！

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-22 20:30

QUOTE:

以下是引用hzsjy在2008-5-22 19:33:00的发言：

第17着红车六退一即可！

炮三退六形势大优，而走车六退一却是黑方优势，不好。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-22 20:38
此局演变到最后都是车双炮对车兵，红方占优，能否取胜尚待研究。

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-23 10:05

QUOTE:

以下是引用yjr123在2008-5-22 20:30:00的发言：

炮三退六形势大优，而走车六退一却是黑方优势，不好。

是的．红方可胜（着法有点冗长）．所以速和的着法黑不能马跳２路，应用象吃炮．

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-23 17:11
黑不马跳２路，改走用象吃炮，红方可以走车六平八，仍然大优可胜。

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-23 17:21

QUOTE:

以下是引用yjr123在2008-5-23 17:11:00的发言：
黑不马跳２路，改走用象吃炮，红方可以走车六平八，仍然大优可胜。

余先生好：

黑用象吃炮红车平八路的着法在３楼和５楼已已有，是和局．难道着法有误？

作者: yjr123 时间: 2008-5-23 18:32

呵呵，没有看到．

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2008-5-24 10:09

“金甲护迁驰白马”红方比较优势。我想了想，“蜀道西望”改成这样不知是否成立？

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作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-24 11:06

此图不行。当时我就考虑过，请看下图着法：

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如无河口炮第１５着红只能帅五平四（平六黑有车５进７的棋），至１８着黑马过河（这时愈加显现河口炮的作用）参战胜定。

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2008-5-24 14:21

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作者: 抱不平 时间: 2008-5-25 05:49

QUOTE:

以下是引用667在2008-5-9 19:41:00的发言：

华工象棋论坛 → 棋行天下 → 象棋总坛 → [新手必讀]如何在本论坛贴JAVA动态棋盘等幫助文件

本論壇看不到棋盘,請下載java虚拟机

使用Windows xp的朋友：如打不开本站的java动态棋盘，请下载、安装:

java虚拟机（简体中文）（点此红色的下载）

下载安装java虚拟机也看不到棋盘.是什么原因?

谢谢!

作者: 667 时间: 2008-5-25 07:43

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-25 5:49:00的发言：
下载安装java虚拟机也看不到棋盘.是什么原因?

谢谢!

有什么提示吗？

作者: 抱不平 时间: 2008-5-25 10:05
没有提示,下载完就不见了.下载过几次都这样.

作者: 667 时间: 2008-5-25 14:30

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-25 10:05:00的发言：
没有提示,下载完就不见了.下载过几次都这样.

下载完就不见了？你用的什么下载工具？是屏蔽了下载还是不知道下载的文件所保存的位置？

作者: 抱不平 时间: 2008-5-25 18:44

QUOTE:

以下是引用667在2008-5-25 14:30:00的发言：

下载完就不见了？你用的什么下载工具？是屏蔽了下载还是不知道下载的文件所保存的位置？

我只按41楼红字点击下载,其它就不知道了,请教一下.谢谢667.

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-25 18:50

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-25 18:44:00的发言：

我只按41楼红字点击下载,其它就不知道了,请教一下.谢谢667.

下载好要进行安装的。可叫一个懂一点的人（高中就可以）帮一下！

作者: 抱不平 时间: 2008-5-25 18:59
谢谢!

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-25 19:36

QUOTE:

以下是引用抱不平在2008-5-25 18:59:00的发言：
谢谢!

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作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-25 19:38
希望李先生喜欢！

作者: 抱不平 时间: 2008-5-26 17:25

QUOTE:

以下是引用hzsjy在2008-5-25 19:38:00的发言：
希望李先生喜欢！

谢谢hzsjy先生.该局很有些江湖局味道,在短期内要弄清准确着法真不容易.

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2008-5-27 08:46

QUOTE:

以下是引用★星海★在2008-5-24 14:21:00的发言：

你看是否可以这样走：

想了很多时候，结果都是黑车马卒对红车炮双相，红不大守的住（无定论）．

而第１２着黑走车８平５将成黑双马卒对红炮兵的必胜的局面．

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-5-27 9:11:12编辑过]

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2008-5-27 09:16
我也认为不好守和。第6回合卒5平6不太好，当然这是有意按你的思路走的。如果改走车8平5红仍很被动。

作者: 柒匹狼 时间: 2011-9-22 16:20
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作者: zhiqihuang 时间: 2011-9-23 06:40
本帖最后由 zhiqihuang 于 2011-9-23 06:51 编辑

回复 54# zhiqihuang

形成双炮低兵对双马低卒，红求和有点难。
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作者: hzsjy 时间: 2011-9-23 18:41
回复 53# 柒匹狼
先生意见正确！
谢谢先生！

作者: 柒匹狼 时间: 2011-9-23 20:37
回复 56# hzsjy 不客气大家都是象棋残局爱好者尤其是江湖残局能让每局残局都尽量完整和正确是每个爱好者的责任沈老师客气了

作者: 柒匹狼 时间: 2011-9-23 20:39
回复 56# hzsjy

不客气大家都是象棋残局爱好者尤其是江湖残局能让每局残局都尽量完整和正确是每个爱好者的责任沈老师客气了

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