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标题: 戌车既成局是胜？还是可和？ [打印本页]

作者: 高原红 时间: 2014-11-22 00:51
标题: 戌车既成局是胜？还是可和？
原谱着法！〔渊深海阔象棋谱〕名“楚归知罃”着法均红胜！ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]1522474849398799999999999999999988996041319999999999993758999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 1:49:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 1:49:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《韬》谱第109局戌车既成局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]适情雅趣[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]卷一[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]12613[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]428950[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]15354132485988893948374749394748353231413236414222304241364660424642[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-11-22 17:53
红胜结论正确，原谱着法有误。

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-11-22 18:03
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-11-22 18:17

★星海★ 发表于 2014-11-22 18:03

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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-11-22 18:48
[/quote] 第二回合马七退五能胜。

作者: zhang48129 时间: 2014-11-22 20:06
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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2014-11-22 20:30
[/quote] 2回合黑走象7进5

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-23 02:06
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-23 11:54
1樓的走法有何問題

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-23 12:11
1樓的問題,這樣嗎

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作者: 高原红 时间: 2014-11-23 16:05
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-23 17:37
嗯,10樓好像也和,3回合好像也可相一退三

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-23 17:44
5樓星海走法如何變化?

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-11-23 18:18

聨吟客发表于 2014-11-23 17:44
5樓星海走法如何變化?

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-24 00:55
接下來呢

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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-11-24 12:34

聨吟客发表于 2014-11-24 00:55
接下來呢

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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-11-24 16:39

★星海★ 发表于 2014-11-24 12:34

应是红胜，楼上第11回合还可走马六进八。

作者: wolaikk 时间: 2014-11-24 18:38
16楼4回合走士5退4是否能顽强一些啊，似乎红方不敢吃中象

作者: wolaikk 时间: 2014-11-28 09:13
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作者: wolaikk 时间: 2014-11-28 12:55
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作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-12-1 15:06
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