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标题: 借車使炮 [打印本页]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-10 13:15
标题: 借車使炮
好像是橘中祕的排局 ?有速勝法

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-10 13:27
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-10 13:51
茲再改進局,這種類局大家已有做很多, 我只是自娛,做不好還望包涵

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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2015-5-10 17:07
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-10 18:39
感謝邢兄指正,只好去掉二路底兵與邊象

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作者: 高原红 时间: 2015-5-10 20:14
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作者: 陈财运 时间: 2015-5-10 20:36
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作者: 湖艓 时间: 2015-5-10 20:49
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作者: 陈财运 时间: 2015-5-10 22:23
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作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2015-5-11 00:35
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作者: 湖艓 时间: 2015-5-11 03:37
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作者: 高原红 时间: 2015-5-11 08:51
本帖最后由高原红于 2015-5-11 10:56 编辑

迟暮寒士发表于 2015-5-11 00:35
这是上中学时，根据古谱中某棋局改革的一局，举得很难、很有趣，经常摆出来在同学中炫耀。

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-11 11:45
各位大俠果然佳作多多,真是令人眼界大開

作者: 湖艓 时间: 2015-5-11 12:31
也翻一则旧局

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作者: 湖艓 时间: 2015-5-11 16:12
标题: 王老师的局名真有意思！
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作者: 湖艓 时间: 2015-5-11 18:36
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作者: 高原红 时间: 2015-5-11 22:48
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作者: 高原红 时间: 2015-5-11 23:19
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作者: 湖艓 时间: 2015-5-12 00:19
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作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2015-5-12 14:02

高原红发表于 2015-5-11 23:19

多谢高原红和湖艓两位棋友对我的棋局的的改进，我自己也做过多次改进，都没有成功。若知道两位棋友对此局有兴趣，我早就贴出来了。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-12 16:19
前一陣子討論熱絡的古局[震驚百里],也是這種類型局

作者: 高原红 时间: 2015-5-13 10:44
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作者: 高原红 时间: 2015-5-13 10:45
本帖最后由高原红于 2015-5-13 11:08 编辑

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作者: 高原红 时间: 2015-5-13 10:55
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作者: 高原红 时间: 2015-5-13 11:42
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作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2015-5-22 17:07
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高原红发表于 2015-5-13 10:45
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回复王方权老师第23楼棋局着法：

第23楼棋局着法很长，所以我做了着重研究。我发现红方有非连照取胜的着法，问题出现在第31步。着法大致如下：
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[DhtmlXQ_comment62]黑方弃车，之后红方若保持连照胜，还需31步，前后总计62步。但是由于黑方弃车后对红方的杀力不足，红方有非连照速胜的着法。||||以下是红方连照胜的着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]黑方进士（不走车7退6弃车），保持杀力，以下红方只能用连照的方法取胜，还需17步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_94]红连照胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_89]红连照胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]软着，再有19步输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_84]软中软，再有5步输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_93]红速胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_74]软中软，再有4步输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]软中软，再有11步输棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]
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我想，王方权老师肯定也发现了这个问题，所以在后面两局做了调整。

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2015-5-22 17:17

湖艓发表于 2015-5-12 00:19

蝴蝶棋友的棋局似乎存在着黑方杀力不足的问题。

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