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标题: 桃园结义 梁利成 （香港） 拟局 [打印本页]
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-9 08:26
标题: 桃园结义 梁利成 （香港） 拟局
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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-9 08:34
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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-9 14:41
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作者: 一二三加油    时间: 2015-6-9 16:43
[/quote] 第7回合黑可马6进4嘛
作者: 古婺    时间: 2015-6-9 17:14
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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-10 09:05
可能这样走吧：[/quote] 谢谢指点！
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-10 09:14
可能这样走吧：[/quote] 如果第9 回合黑方改走将4平5好像可以下和呢？请你再看看，可以吗？
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-10 09:15
第7回合黑可马6进4嘛[/quote] 当时没看到，谢谢指正！
作者: ★星海★    时间: 2015-6-10 10:13
如果第9 回合黑方改走将4平5好像可以下和呢？请你再看看，可以吗？[/quote] 还能胜，黑方可以走得顽强一些。
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-10 14:55
可能这样走吧：[/quote] 红方第9回合改走[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949998783999970999999748699729950514199399999649999996338[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]桃园结义 梁利成（香港）拟[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]确实未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]74647264836463647078413286855041858451508474504074644030645441525444324144343040876540306547304047254030250730400729403078733040733338284939[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment35]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment35] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1]87655241654741524725524125074152072930317873313073333241544430404434384849394130294740503343485839385241431341521318585938395241181941521959524139495040472940503444505144544152545330415363[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_62_2]51505352[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_62_2] [/DhtmlXQ]相一进三好像可以取胜？
作者: ★星海★    时间: 2015-6-10 15:36
象棋天使棋友：第9回合不平兵就把马放跑了。
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-10 15:58
★星海★ 发表于 2015-6-10 15:36
象棋天使棋友：第9回合不平兵就把马放跑了。

是呀，黑马一脱身就和了。
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-10 16:00
★星海★ 发表于 2015-6-10 15:36
象棋天使棋友：第9回合不平兵就把马放跑了。

看来红方想要取胜还得另谋良策。
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-10 16:02
古婺 发表于 2015-6-9 17:14
可能这样走吧：

李老师，您好！帮忙再看看吧，红方该如何取胜？
作者: ★星海★    时间: 2015-6-10 16:46
5楼9回合已是必胜之局。如果从6回合开始改走：士5进6，
兵二平三 士4退5
兵三平四 将6平5
兵四平五 士5退6，
以后可在中路拴住相，迫使红方走成低兵。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-6-10 19:49
根據星海走法
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2015-6-10 21:42
聨吟客 发表于 2015-6-10 19:49
根據星海走法

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]紅有何手段[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_2]654731413444413144343141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_2][DhtmlXQ_comment45]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
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作者: ★星海★    时间: 2015-6-10 22:31
杨启忠 发表于 2015-6-10 21:42

这还不是正解，10回合黑方有大漏。
作者: 古婺    时间: 2015-6-11 07:58
本帖最后由 古婺 于 2015-6-11 08:03 编辑

黑将在中路牵制，比较顽强，列一路变化：

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[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]紅有何手段[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_2]654731413444413144343141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_3]30318886524186364132363238484939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_5_34_6]41514333524180845152842441302421304121314132333238284939[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_34_6][DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]也胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2015-6-11 08:40
古婺 发表于 2015-6-11 07:58
黑将在中路牵制，比较顽强，列一路变化：

11回合，黑出将顽强：一时没有发现红棋该如何应对

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment20]黑将在中路露头，算是比较顽强了[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]红象可先直接到位别住黑马[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_33]等一步，逼黑将让出中路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_43]||胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]也胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-11 09:30
杨启忠 发表于 2015-6-11 08:40
11回合，黑出将顽强：一时没有发现红棋该如何应对

谢谢杨老师啦。看来红方要想取胜真的很伤脑筋呀。容我再想想吧!
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-11 09:36
聨吟客 发表于 2015-6-10 19:49
根據星海走法

谢谢老师抽空指教。该局结论是红先胜。能不能再想想？是不是有隐着还没有被发现？
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-11 10:32
★星海★ 发表于 2015-6-10 22:31
这还不是正解，10回合黑方有大漏。

还请老师多多指教！贴出高招。
作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2015-6-11 10:56
古婺 发表于 2015-6-11 07:58
黑将在中路牵制，比较顽强，列一路变化：

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[DhtmlXQ_comment20]黑将在中路露头，算是比较顽强了[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]这样红如何能胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]黑劣变？||红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]红象可先直接到位别住黑马[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]等一步，逼黑将让出中路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]||胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]也胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
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和棋
作者: 高原红    时间: 2015-6-11 21:06
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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-12 08:57
聨吟客 发表于 2015-6-10 19:49
根據星海走法

谢谢陈老师，据说这局棋是红先胜，不知怎么的就是走不出来？
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2015-6-12 11:15
大家看看这样如何呢？

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作者: yuntao云涛    时间: 2015-6-12 13:51
杨启忠 发表于 2015-6-12 11:15
大家看看这样如何呢？

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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2015-6-12 15:08
yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-6-12 13:51

也只是针对5回合卒4平5的变化而已，第9回合改走炮五进一呢

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作者: ★星海★    时间: 2015-6-12 16:13
象棋天使 发表于 2015-6-11 10:32
还请老师多多指教！贴出高招。

没有高招。或许红胜结论不对，也可能边兵位置摆错了，应前进一步。
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-6-12 21:01
★星海★ 发表于 2015-6-12 16:13
没有高招。或许红胜结论不对，也可能边兵位置摆错了，应前进一步。

估计还是原局有错，红边兵前移一步，则是一局很精妙的排局
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-13 15:42
邢春波 发表于 2015-6-12 21:01
估计还是原局有错，红边兵前移一步，则是一局很精妙的排局

是吗？那谢谢啦。
作者: zhaodi    时间: 2015-6-15 12:07
邢春波 发表于 2015-6-12 21:01
估计还是原局有错，红边兵前移一步，则是一局很精妙的排局

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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2015-6-15 12:32
      就棋论棋，不夹杂个人喜好情感，甚感欣慰，如此，江湖有幸，对本贴发贴跟贴的所有棋友表示由衷的敬意！
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-15 13:19
zhaodi 发表于 2015-6-15 12:07

谢谢各位棋友啦。你们辛苦啦。
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-15 15:24
zhaodi 发表于 2015-6-15 12:07

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作者: 高原红    时间: 2015-6-15 15:41
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2015-6-15 15:43 编辑

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作者: 魔帝大人    时间: 2015-6-15 21:35
本帖最后由 魔帝大人 于 2015-6-15 21:36 编辑

既然是桃园三结义，红那就留3个子，改成这样如何？况且前面两个回合兑4个子，用子效率低下，不如去掉，局面精炼

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作者: 橘中搜秘    时间: 2015-6-16 10:27
魔帝大人 发表于 2015-6-15 21:35
既然是桃园三结义，红那就留3个子，改成这样如何？况且前面两个回合兑4个子，用子效率低下，不如去掉，局面 ...

梁先生这局棋的帽子，内涵变化非常复杂，能很好的隐藏真实意图，不能字看增加步数多少。
再看魔帝先生的改局，与粱先生棋局脫帽后没有本质区别，少个7路卒不能解决问题：红兵原地未劲，相仍在边路，从步数上看仍然摆脱不了被牵制的局面。
作者: yuntao云涛    时间: 2015-6-16 11:27
杨启忠 发表于 2015-6-12 15:08
也只是针对5回合卒4平5的变化而已，第9回合改走炮五进一呢

第二回合红改走【马一退二】会怎样？
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2015-6-16 12:35
yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-6-16 11:27
第二回合红改走【马一退二】会怎样？

总体感觉黑优：

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作者: 魔帝大人    时间: 2015-6-16 13:34
本帖最后由 魔帝大人 于 2015-6-16 13:36 编辑
橘中搜秘 发表于 2015-6-16 10:27
梁先生这局棋的帽子，内涵变化非常复杂，能很好的隐藏真实意图，不能字看增加步数多少。
再看魔帝先生的 ...


我没按各位老师把兵前进一步，而是把黑将上移了一步。
作者: 橘中搜秘    时间: 2015-6-16 14:11
魔帝大人 发表于 2015-6-16 13:34
我没按各位老师把兵前进一步，而是把黑将上移了一步。

为了增加迷惑性，可以设计一着弃兵叫将然后退炮。首着兵三平四，无论上士还是上将，都为红方争取到一步。
作者: zhaodi    时间: 2015-6-17 22:41
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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-18 09:17
zhaodi 发表于 2015-6-17 22:41

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作者: 高原红    时间: 2015-6-18 11:50
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作者: 高原红    时间: 2015-6-18 11:56
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2015-6-18 11:58 编辑
象棋天使 发表于 2015-6-18 09:17
精彩！改得很有水平。


第29回走炮四进八缓！

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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-6-18 11:57
标题: 和上局大同小异。
本帖最后由 象棋天使 于 2015-6-18 11:58 编辑
高原红 发表于 2015-6-18 11:50
首着吃子总感不舒畅！可否改成这样！

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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2015-6-18 23:05
异曲同工之妙局

http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... mp;page=1#pid225770
作者: ★星海★    时间: 2015-6-19 00:27
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2015-6-19 00:28 编辑
zhaodi 发表于 2015-6-18 23:05
异曲同工之妙局

http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=32272&page=1#pid225770

45楼改局最好能去掉车马卒，尤其是里黑车，因目标太明显了。
从难度上说，岱斩魏延更胜一等，特别是开头两步，错过机会就无法挽回。
作者: ★星海★    时间: 2015-8-4 15:32
答案已揭晓，据说在《棋友》第2期，红先和
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2015-8-7 16:17
★星海★ 发表于 2015-8-4 15:32
答案已揭晓，据说在《棋友》第2期，红先和

谢谢告知。



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