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标题: 《火拼王伦》应为黑胜？ [打印本页]

作者: chessbug 时间: 2017-1-15 14:21
标题: 《火拼王伦》应为黑胜？
本帖最后由 chessbug 于 2017-1-15 14:25 编辑

如图为《江湖百局秘谱》（蒋权编著）第6局“火拼王伦”，原谱为和局。
今天研究时发现，第5回合黑卒4平5走软，给了红方幸和的机会，此着应改走车5退1。
分析后初步认为，此局应为黑胜，不知是否成立。

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作者: zhang48129 时间: 2017-1-15 16:11
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-1-15 17:38
沈濟英老師的一局

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[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]花\u003F\u003F张南史\u003F\u003F唐||||花，花。||深浅，芬葩。||凝为雪，错为霞。||莺和蝶到，苑占宫遮。||已迷金谷路，频驻玉人车。||芳草欲陵芳树，东家半落西家。||愿得春风相伴去，一攀一折向天涯。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_51]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_45]按江湖棋规可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_58]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_25]回到主变21着车五平七的变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_63]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_69]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_51]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_45]按江湖棋规可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_35]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_49]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_53]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_31]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_65]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_65]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_61]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_61]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_65]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_53]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_53]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_55]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_48]黑侥幸成和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_55]黑侥幸成和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_35]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_49]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_67]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_45]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_31]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_17]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment64_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_23]
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作者: 桑莫喜 时间: 2017-1-16 20:58
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作者: chessbug 时间: 2017-1-16 22:52
桑兄是这样的构思吗？
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-1-17 13:29
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_2]80702737706050512221515221205747493947672030676530376545[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_2][DhtmlXQ_comment33]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33][DhtmlXQ_comment19]這樣是否也可以呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-1-17 13:45
吃象好像不行
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_1]5242244445445444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]這樣可能黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
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作者: 桑莫喜 时间: 2017-1-17 17:27
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_34]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_10]应改走车5退1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_10]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-1-17 22:40

桑莫喜发表于 2017-1-17 17:27

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2017-10-25 15:07
这局棋我感觉胜和一直还未有定论。王首成新出的两本书中还是和蒋权的着法一样。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2017-10-25 15:10
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]分类:双车单炮类.[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]这样是不是红胜了[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_10]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2017-10-25 15:17
几年前就一直有疑惑，在智弈论坛中有人好象发过一贴，改变了着法，是和局。现在找不到了。记忆中好象是豫东棋人发的。当时拆解了一番，没有找出破绽。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-25 20:58
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-10-25 22:54 编辑

chouzhouyu 发表于 2017-10-25 15:10

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]分类:双车单炮类.[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_27]这样是不是红胜了[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_10]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_6]57592131[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_6][DhtmlXQ_comment26]這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]分类:双车单炮类.[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_27]这样是不是红胜了[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_34]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_10]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-25 21:53
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[DhtmlXQ_title]火拼王伦實驗改局陳明仁改拟[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-25 22:14
原本是想這樣走和局
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[DhtmlXQ_title]火拼王伦實驗改局陳明仁改拟[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-25 22:18
但是黑還有進象變化
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-25 22:45
這局也這樣走呢
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[DhtmlXQ_title]火拼王伦 [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2017.01.15[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]7570426070604150605040505952504052424050423248478545372732222042[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_19_2]222050512021515221242737656457474939474564545251[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_19_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_30_1]5242244445445444[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_30_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_30]!!這樣可能黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_30]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]這樣又如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_16][DhtmlXQ_comment16]這樣會如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2017-10-25 22:52
车五退一后确实是黑胜。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2017-10-25 23:08
对这局棋印象较深，因为几年前在街上去破过，输了，之后呆在边上摆棋摊的人刚好有个朋友来在聊天，听他们说这局棋不吃象是黑胜。（可能是我听错了）不吃象赢的话感觉应该是以下这路变化。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-25 23:31

chouzhouyu 发表于 2017-10-25 23:08
对这局棋印象较深，因为几年前在街上去破过，输了，之后呆在边上摆棋摊的人刚好有个朋友来在聊天，听他们说 ...

最後仍要吃相吧
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment19]還原||黑還要想其他辦法[/DhtmlXQ_comment19][DhtmlXQ_comment20]仍是吃相紅難走[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_18_6]27284549[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_18_6][DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]仍吃相紅難走[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_20][DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_4]27284549[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_4]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-25 23:32
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-10-25 23:43 编辑

感覺有點亂
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]||這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]還原||黑還要想其他辦法[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_20]仍是吃相紅難走[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_18_6]27284549[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_18_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]仍吃相紅難走[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_7]324240504222273738485358484937472220505120215150215150514939474864635859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_7][DhtmlXQ_comment17]這樣較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-25 23:53
既然已確定原局黑勝 ,就不用再討論其他的黑劣變吧, 那樣會很累

除非發現紅的新頑強走法再提出來

希望大家繼續討論16與17樓兩個改局的進象變化會如何

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-31 12:58
我的改局可能仍可成立?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-31 21:10
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-10-31 22:03 编辑

再整理一下

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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_40]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_40]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_9_27_8]23335838[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_27_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]應是正著[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_59]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_59]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_33]此時仍應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_33_14]040342491913504037384948383948451318454939384919[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_33_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_17]654503135040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment19_64]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_64]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_92]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_92]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22_90]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_90]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_45]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_45]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-31 21:46
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-10-31 23:13 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_30]!!這樣可能黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_30]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]這樣會如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22]這樣又如何變化[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_2_30_1]5242244445445444[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_30_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_30]!!這樣可能黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_30]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]這樣會如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22]這樣又如何變化[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]應該是這樣吧[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_17][DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-10-31 23:16
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-11-1 12:09
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-11-1 12:30 编辑

再研究了一下,樓上提出的幾種黑變,紅應也都可以應付
但太瑣碎操作東萍會很累,呵呵呵
那麼這局桑兄提出的底兵改局也算成功佳局
大家認為呢

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