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标题: 也請網友們拆解拆解 [打印本页]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-19 21:38
标题: 也請網友們拆解拆解
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2018-1-19 22:22 编辑

結果如何
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-19 21:54
呵呵呵, 呵呵呵......................會心一笑吧

作者: 湖艓 时间: 2018-1-20 01:53
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作者: sdndsx 时间: 2018-1-20 08:34
联吟客老师：
谢谢您的分享！

这局好像不是连将胜吧。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-20 09:33
此局沒有連將殺,脫帽後有些複雜,應是看看紅能不能和

作者: 象棋天使 时间: 2018-1-20 11:32
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作者: 象棋天使 时间: 2018-1-20 11:37

湖艓发表于 2018-1-20 01:53

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作者: 象棋天使 时间: 2018-1-20 12:53

象棋天使发表于 2018-1-20 11:37

作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-1-20 14:36

象棋天使发表于 2018-1-20 12:53

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作者: 象棋天使 时间: 2018-1-20 14:48

yjr123 发表于 2018-1-20 14:36

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作者: 象棋天使 时间: 2018-1-20 14:55

象棋天使发表于 2018-1-20 14:48
这样呢？

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作者: 象棋天使 时间: 2018-1-20 15:16

象棋天使发表于 2018-1-20 14:55

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-1-20 15:55

象棋天使发表于 2018-1-20 14:48
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-20 17:46
8樓怎麼少紅車,有些樓怎麼多紅馬?

呵呵,不過我倒是忽略了3回合兌車再進兵的變化
就1樓原圖, 這個變化會如何?

如果不滿意我可再改圖

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-20 17:48
這樣紅就沒有兌車再進兵的選擇了是不
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-20 18:12
喔,原來紅邊馬是湖艓大師加上去的,15樓余先生走法紅優

原圖沒有紅邊馬,那樣走可能也紅優

17樓改圖那樣走黑優, 呵呵,要不大家重新以17樓研究如何?

作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-1-21 08:22

聨吟客发表于 2018-1-20 18:12
喔,原來紅邊馬是湖艓大師加上去的,15樓余先生走法紅優

原圖沒有紅邊馬,那樣走可能也紅優

1楼是黑大优，17楼红车在马口则成黑胜，15楼红优，但要取胜则难度不小。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-1-21 08:22

聨吟客发表于 2018-1-20 18:12
喔,原來紅邊馬是湖艓大師加上去的,15樓余先生走法紅優

原圖沒有紅邊馬,那樣走可能也紅優

1楼是黑大优，17楼红车在马口则成黑胜，15楼红优，但要取胜则难度不小。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-1-21 08:22

聨吟客发表于 2018-1-20 18:12
喔,原來紅邊馬是湖艓大師加上去的,15樓余先生走法紅優

原圖沒有紅邊馬,那樣走可能也紅優

1楼是黑大优，17楼红车在马口则成黑胜，15楼红优，但要取胜则难度不小。

作者: 湖艓 时间: 2018-1-21 11:03

yjr123 发表于 2018-1-21 08:22
1楼是黑大优，17楼红车在马口则成黑胜，15楼红优，但要取胜则难度不小。

余先生，15楼七路高相如何？

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-21 11:40
17樓可按照我的原意脫帽

黑有何勝法嗎?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-21 11:57
哎呀!!真是黑勝

,我再想想怎麼改圖,感謝大家熱情參與討論

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-21 12:14
也加紅馬,這樣不知成不成?呵呵呵........

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-22 10:58
是否可算滿意了呢?

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-1-22 12:59

聨吟客发表于 2018-1-22 10:58
是否可算滿意了呢?

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-22 17:11
嗯,底相改邊相看看

(又如果刪底相?)
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-22 17:20
走到這裡為止是否沒有問題了呢

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-23 10:09
這回可以很滿意了哦?

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作者: 湖艓 时间: 2018-1-23 10:54
和法较多，应该可以不丢相。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-23 11:04

湖艓发表于 2018-1-23 10:54
和法较多，应该可以不丢相。

相不能刪 ,至於是否能保住相, 我還沒想到方法?, 總之能解決之前大家指正的各種問題而精妙成和,我已經很滿意而知足常樂了,呵呵

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-23 12:03
再斟酌了一下,我仍未找到保住紅相的辦法, 目前為止我很滿意我的走法

若有人走出保住紅相法,還請指導一下, 就算有, 也已經不是此局的重點,也無損自我滿意度

呃 ...... 這樣會不會太狂傲?實在是因為成功得來不易, 雖然只有幾天時間, 過程也挺艱辛的,見好可收不多做妄想, 呵呵呵..........

作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-1-23 12:36

聨吟客发表于 2018-1-23 12:03
再斟酌了一下,我仍未找到保住紅相的辦法, 目前為止我很滿意我的走法

若有人走出保住紅相法,還請指導 ...

可以利用云库

http://www.chessdb.cn/query/?3k4C/9/9/9/9/9/9/B5N2/4Ar3/4K4%20w

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-1-23 14:59
我終於也發現27回合退相好像可以,雙方變化很瑣碎,我就不再操作了, 呵呵, 感謝大家的討論

我的走法雖然丟相, 卻也和得乾脆明瞭易懂易學, 呵呵呵...........

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2021-3-4 10:10
這也算字圖局否
呵呵呵呵呵

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