声势相倚

dave7788

[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]3799999939994799359981999999999948999999429999990899999984047863[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]声势相倚（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2009-12-19[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]小橘梅[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]8101081835324241323141403130404137314142311148493949181130401141407041517040514140804151808451578444425201005251006078686068575949485958484958684404[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]《湖涯集》第39局，采自《竹香斋》，原棋图无黑8、9路卒，红可胜，例如起手红炮一退八，车5平9，炮一平五，车9平5，前车进四，红胜。现增两卒以保持原谱和局之意。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]35324241323141403727483831380809[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_2]4252472911014044[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]42327030413130403101476501514043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_20_4]324230344101344442324765[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_20_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_5]04054729575949487868606859584849051568881525888025354441515041405051805058284043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_6]636447255759494878686068595848496465440465660407585949485956074756584849515068886656888058184740505140431819494819128050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_59]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_59] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_44_7]665668585646075751415756[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_44_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_49] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_42_8]665607065150686950516959[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_42_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_47] [/DhtmlXQ]

yjr123

首着红炮一退八，黑方有什么手段？

聨吟客

好像紅勝 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]3799999939994799359981999999999948999999429999990899999999047863[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]声势相倚（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2009-12-19[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]小橘梅[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]81897879472908282907281835324241323141403130404137314142312142523032484232314248315152422141[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_37] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]《湖涯集》第39局，采自《竹香斋》，原棋图无黑8路卒，红可炮一退八，车5平9，炮一平五，车9平5，前车进四，红胜。现添卒以达到原谱和局之意。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_1]4252472911014044[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_2]42326030413130403101476901814043[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_20_3]324230334101334342524765[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_20_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_4]6364746451576444425201005251476578684404[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_33] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_5]04054729575949487868606859584849051568881525888025354441515041405051805058284043[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_6]8101081835324241323141403130404137314142311148493949181130401141406041516040514140704151707451577444425201005251006078686068575949485958484958684404[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_13_4_14]42523531[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_4_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_7]798935324241323141403130404137314142304042524060[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_9]798935324241323141403130404137314142304042524060[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_10]181230404252404812190729[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_8]48283032[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_11]4240315152422122[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_12]4212315152422141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_13]4858894958483531[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_15]78883531[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_15] [/DhtmlXQ]

dave7788

说的对！红退炮好。再改一下—— [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]3799999939994799359971999999999948999999429999990899999999047863[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]声势相倚（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2009-12-19[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]小橘梅[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]《湖涯集》第39局，采自《竹香斋》。原棋图无黑8路卒，红起手可炮退八胜！现增卒以保持原谱和局之意。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]7101081835324241323141403130404137314142311148493949181130401141406041516040514140704151707451577444425201005251006078686068575949485958484958684404[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]4252472911014044[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2]42326030413130403101476901814043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_20_3]324230334101334342524765[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_20_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_4]04054729575949487868606859584849051568881525888025354441515041405051805058284043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_49] [/DhtmlXQ]

wolaikk

《湖涯集》第39局，采自《竹香斋》，原棋图把一路炮移到三路就可以吧

dave7788

原谱除首着红退炮外还有胜法，所以增卒移炮。起初是把黑3卒移到7/9位，好像也和。又想在原图中增黑8、9及9/4位双卒（如图），黑势强，不一定行。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]3799999939994799359981999999999948999999429999990899999983047863[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]声势相倚（红先）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2009-12-19[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]小橘梅[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

豫东棋人

这样似乎也可成和（请各位帮忙指正） [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]3799879939994799359981999999999948999999429982990899999999046399[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]声势相倚（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result][/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]8101081835324241323141403130404137314142311148493949181130341119494842413444415147691959010051504440505140445150000282640272040572705952444050517050524240426442507063646947051570791516794942244838[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

dave7788

[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]3799879939994799359981999999999948999999429982990899999999046399[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]声势相倚（红先）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]810108183532424132314140313040413731414231114849394918113040114140804151808251528284[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

dave7788

[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]3799999939994799359981999999999948999999429999990899999984047863[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]声势相倚（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2009-12-19[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]小橘梅[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]8101081835324241323141403130404137314142311148493949181130401141407041517040514140804151808451578444425201005251006078686068575949485958484958684404[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]《湖涯集》第39局，采自《竹香斋》，原棋图无黑8、9路卒，红可胜，例如起手红炮一退八，车5平9，炮一平五，车9平5，前车进四，红胜。现增两卒以保持原谱和局之意。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]35324241323141403727483831380809[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_2]4252472911014044[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]42327030413130403101476501514043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_20_4]324230344101344442324765[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_20_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_5]04054729575949487868606859584849051568881525888025354441515041405051805058284043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_6]636447255759494878686068595848496465440465660407585949485956074756584849515068886656888058184740505140431819494819128050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_6][DhtmlXQ_comment6_59]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_59] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_44_7]665668585646075751415756[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_44_7][DhtmlXQ_comment7_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_49] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_42_8]665607065150686950516959[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_42_8][DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_47] [/DhtmlXQ]

聨吟客

初研6樓,變化頗多,不知是否正確,如果能和是很精采的! [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]3799999939994799359981999999999948999999429999990899999983047863[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]声势相倚（红先）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2009-12-19[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]小橘梅[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]8101081835324241323141403130404137314142311148493949181130401141407041517074515774444252010052510060786860685759494859584849586844046864040151500141838441456454494863644838505138488485458554448584514148384140847440417484443438483444483844343848341448381418383918173938171838391817393817183839181439381444847441407484[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_1]84854585544485555040555763644858[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_2]636474645157644442520100525147657868440457594948685848385919045451415444415100041915383715650414651514041505041405043738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_28_3]04050060[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_28_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_40_4]84854585644485555040555763644959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_40_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_5]54344769646545653444483851416567445467474151384854554746848569878575464151504146[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_48_6]34546947[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_48_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_58_7]8485474585864546[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_58_7] [/DhtmlXQ]

dave7788

[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]3799999939994799359981999999999948999999429999990899999983047863[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]声势相倚（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2009-12-19[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]小橘梅[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]810108183532424132314140313040413731414231114849394918113040114140604151604051414070415170745157744442520100525100607868606857594948595848495868440468640401515001418384414564544948636447255051454151504145848545855444483850408587443487373454374740504745[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]35324241323141403727483831380809[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_2]4252472911014044[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]42326030413130403101476501714043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_20_4]324230344101344442524765[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_20_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_5]63647464515664444252440478680444565949486858483859090104090644340608383708073738074734545242545847440407[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_5][DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]5157644442524765786844045759494868584838591904545242544442520104191538371565041465151404150504140507373807043837[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6][DhtmlXQ_comment6_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_53] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_30_7]564604085242087846474939838401084749393849297848425248442928383928084484[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_30_7][DhtmlXQ_comment7_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_47] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_32_8]6858472583840105586844455659494868584838592925072928383728273738270705150708383708053738[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_32_8][DhtmlXQ_comment8_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_53] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_52_9]646545655444483850406567443467373454374740504745[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_52_9][DhtmlXQ_comment9_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_63] [/DhtmlXQ]