柳暗花明···邢春波拟局

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-11-25 19:46:04

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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-25 21:34:44

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邢春波 · 发表于 2013-11-25 21:37:04

[/quote] 23回合黑改走卒3平4

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-25 23:09:35

23回合卒3平4红难胜，改成这样： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0221693937578755624865223443999918236052419982424940502645589999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]柳暗花明···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]62615051434241316151313051313031423231302142234232313031223231303231303102323132343332313332314132424042654542485543604243224151455552415558415257485241581826273747272818114132473742641116282937385141223429393453414053454041161941408765404165474140483949393839[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_1]282937382939111951418765426465474140483949393839[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]不够顽强[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment46]这样顽强一些[/DhtmlXQ_comment46] [/DhtmlXQ]

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-11-26 19:28:36

23回合卒3平4红难胜，改成这样：[/quote] 正解，后半局但不是原拟局的原意，由于前面的着法是倒推的忽略了22回合红进炮将军，还好这局棋倒还成立。

yjr123 · 发表于 2013-11-27 20:02:00

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邢春波 · 发表于 2013-11-29 21:11:27

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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-29 22:09:16

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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-30 16:13:47

9路卒移到1路就能走成邢先生想要的局面，红方该如何取胜还有待于继续研究 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]1221693937578755624865223443999908236052419982424940502645589903[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]柳暗花明···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]6261505143424131615131305131303142323130214223423231303122323130323130311232313234333231333231413242404265454248554360424322415145555241555841525748524158082627374727280809282922032939[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-11-30 20:02:00

9路卒移到1路就能走成邢先生想要的局面，红方该如何取胜还有待于继续研究[/quote] 曾老师您好，结尾这个局面不是我想要的局面，红不能胜。

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-11-30 20:03:02

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pppp_97 · 发表于 2013-12-3 02:00:46

9楼红马到三路保士红胜不了吗？

迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2013-12-3 03:48:23

本帖最后由迟暮寒士于 2013-12-3 03:51 编辑

pppp_97 发表于 2013-12-3 02:00
9楼红马到三路保士红胜不了吗？

我替他们二位回答你，可能是因为：如果黑将先占据4路，红帅就无法走到六路，红士也就无法退六吃卒。真正原因，只有他们·二位最清楚。如下图所示，红方难胜。
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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-12-3 08:11:52

红方想取胜大概要走成左马右帅（左帅右马），黑方总能先出将让你出不了帅。还有就是红马作炮架用炮保士，黑方同样不会让你得逞。

迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2013-12-3 10:17:40

★星海★ 发表于 2013-12-3 08:11
红方想取胜大概要走成左马右帅（左帅右马），黑方总能先出将让你出不了帅。还有就是红马作炮架用炮保士，黑 ...

是这样的吗？
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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-12-3 10:46:21

就是这样保士，还有就是中炮中马，但是难度更大。不过楼上着法欠妥，黑方守和的要点就是将随马动，不能放松警惕。士不要轻易撑起，象也不要轻易回中路。
第四回合走马六退四红胜。
第七回合走马七进六再进四，再退三就红胜了。

迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2013-12-3 12:25:02

★星海★ 发表于 2013-12-3 10:46
就是这样保士，还有就是中炮中马，但是难度更大。不过楼上着法欠妥，黑方守和的要点就是将随马动，不能放松 ...

   看来这个残局还很难，也很奥妙。如果最终定型的“柳暗花明”或“风云再起”局演变不到这个残局局面，涉及不到该残局的变着，我看那就另立一局，作为一个独立的排局。
   例如，把局面摆成如下形式，要求红先和。着法焦点是黑方设法要白吃红车，红方则设法保护红车。
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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-12-3 12:37:30

迟暮寒士发表于 2013-12-3 12:25
看来这个残局还很难，也很奥妙。如果最终定型的“柳暗花明”或“风云再起”局演变不到这个残局局面 ...

一个相恐怕不行，详见风云再起胜法。

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-12-4 19:21:47

迟暮寒士发表于 2013-12-3 12:25
看来这个残局还很难，也很奥妙。如果最终定型的“柳暗花明”或“风云再起”局演变不到这个残局局面 ...

风云再起局4回合红退炮打车的变化就形成这个局面（车方是双象）

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-12-4 19:25:19

这是我拟的着法，请大家指正！

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[DhtmlXQ_comment85]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment85]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_79]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_71]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_63]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_55]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_73]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_64]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_65]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_67]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_67]
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zhaodi · 发表于 2013-12-4 21:04:13

从第22回合起的局面，还有研究头。
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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-12-6 10:46:15

邢春波发表于 2013-12-4 19:25
这是我拟的着法，请大家指正！

25回合直接退炮怎么样？
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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_85]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_85]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_79]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_71]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_63]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_55]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_73]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_64]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_65]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_67]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_67]
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邢春波 · 发表于 2013-12-6 18:36:57

★星海★ 发表于 2013-12-6 10:46
25回合直接退炮怎么样？

黑接走卒9进1，红好像没有后续手段。

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-12-6 18:39:12

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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_85]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_85]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_79]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_71]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_63]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_55]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_55]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_73]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_73]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_64]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_64]
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邢春波 · 发表于 2013-12-6 19:06:18

多谢指正，这局棋看来还要多费些脑细胞。

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-12-7 19:57:30

本帖最后由邢春波于 2013-12-7 19:58 编辑

此局经过几度修改，虽然没达到预期的质量，但也算能及格了，就以24楼为此贴的定稿局（在1楼已重新编辑更新）。
对此局的修改我将另起一贴，因为我觉得如果再继续下去此贴就太乱了，不宜此局的修改，且这局棋也算基本及格。
感谢曾俊岭等各位老师的积极讨论，谢谢！

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-12-7 21:35:19

1楼还不是最简着法，可以减少两回合：
22回合士5进4可能要多走两回合。
棋局本来就无误，只是原着法不够简捷，我的名字就不用署上了吧

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