英雄虎胆??红先胜···邢春波??赵殿忠拟局

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-10-28 19:54:04

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高原红 · 发表于 2013-10-29 11:49:21

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纹枰老妖 · 发表于 2013-10-29 19:16:05

[/quote] 问个低级的问题，这样的局面【红有马炮相，黑油双卒双士象】，是红棋必胜棋么？

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-10-29 20:19:13

问个低级的问题，这样的局面【红有马炮相，黑油双卒双士象】，是红棋必胜棋么？[/quote] 欢迎纹枰老妖棋友加入华工论坛！！！

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-10-29 20:20:33

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高原红 · 发表于 2013-10-30 00:19:09

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高原红 · 发表于 2013-10-30 01:23:39

问个低级的问题，这样的局面【红有马炮相，黑油双卒双士象】，是红棋必胜棋么？[/quote] 该形黑方双卒对红方没有威慑力，且双卒又未过河红方可逐个吃掉黑卒。红马炮相必胜双士单象！！！

zhaodi · 发表于 2013-10-30 15:50:34

回复6楼

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纹枰老妖 · 发表于 2013-10-30 16:41:43

谢谢8楼详细回复，这样看来，马似乎可以通过叫将吃象帮助红炮解困啊，这样应该是红胜了吧？

纹枰老妖 · 发表于 2013-10-30 16:43:52

谢谢8楼详细回复，这样看来，马似乎可以通过叫将吃象帮助红炮解困啊，这样应该是红胜了吧？[/quote] 不对，吃了象反而会关死自己的红炮、、、

zhaodi · 发表于 2013-10-30 18:47:58

王兄的关键着还需研究。大思路是对的。

有事Q我 · 发表于 2013-10-30 21:39:05

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高原红 · 发表于 2013-10-31 00:45:17

回复6楼[/quote] 退士关炮！红方运马可较快将红炮调出取胜！ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949990714999945999999999999999932424120993199999999996323[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]英雄虎胆红先胜···邢春波赵殿忠拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]将族[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]将族[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]14353130454841504959424135236364072564652342413148383141426165663830413130403241617366567354313254335666331220024010[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_3]425245555251354351504331[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]3101495901043523[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_5_2]355441525475524175635150637150407152403052312324311220421200415200213031[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_5_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_4]4252355452514858415254755241756351505888504063712042884830314846232446473111715240304737113152444264442364422331[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_22_5]4030473742607163415063446042442342602331[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_22_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_6]324135544232483841525435324238304232352352413031636459496465310165552311[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_7]304007256364234241314840314142614030413130403141254741314045[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_8]304038884131614032414021[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_9]25472042476542246547244223423000423441313415313015230010[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_10]0008[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_11]615341403848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_25_12]5958667625477666[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_25_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_32_13]4131303250413238[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_32_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_14]314140304131304031412547665659495666493966564030566661534140303150413111[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment20]黑这样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20] [/DhtmlXQ]

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-10-31 12:04:03

高原红发表于 2013-10-31 00:45
退士关炮！红方运马可较快将红炮调出取胜！
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黑象不逃，炮就出不来了

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-10-31 18:08:20

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邢春波 · 发表于 2013-10-31 19:23:11

★星海★ 发表于 2013-10-31 18:08
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12回合红应马三退四，12楼15楼虽已走出红胜，但红黑皆未走出最正确的着法来

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-10-31 19:38:51

本来想把这局棋走成下面这个局面，形成巧胜，但发出后发现可以速胜，于是开始再次苦思，哈哈！塞翁失马焉知非福，竟然把原来行不通的构思拟成了！(先不贴出来，再冷处理一下）

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有事Q我 · 发表于 2013-10-31 22:27:07

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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-1 08:56:07

第2回合黑方不走将4进1，红方取胜还需再费周折。

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-11-1 20:12:21

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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-1 21:05:54

这样比较顽强，消除红方多余的胜法。
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邢春波 · 发表于 2013-11-1 21:53:07

这个变化，红最快的胜法★星海★ 发表于 2013-11-1 21:05
这样比较顽强，消除红方多余的胜法。
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这个变化，红最快的胜法
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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-1 22:43:31

仍有速胜，春波兄应该早有改图了，贴出来看看

邢春波 · 发表于 2013-11-2 20:59:45

加一黑卒，可以使红方只有一种胜法
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[DhtmlXQ_title]英雄虎胆红先胜···邢春波赵殿忠拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-2 21:18:59

恩，跟我想的一样。

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-2 21:21:29

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邢春波 · 发表于 2013-11-2 21:27:24

★星海★ 发表于 2013-11-2 21:21
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邢春波 · 发表于 2013-11-17 18:57:40

完整着法

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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-18 11:18:12

可以这样：
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