变化深奥的双兵连营，请大家研讨一下。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-10 11:31:44

25樓很妙!^__^

bh22wsc · 发表于 2010-6-10 11:53:06

大陆江湖中，江湖艺人大多基本都不讲棋规，如果你提出和棋红胜，他才说：一将一捉、长将、长叫杀算输。比如本局你如果走红方，走至13楼时，他会说你犯规作负，而他走红方会说允许这么走，如果没玩之前和他谈论此局的算不算长打问题，他可能不会和你下棋。因为你也许是行家。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-10 12:05:50

呵呵呵
是啊,所以擺此局的攤主永遠不會輸,呵呵呵呵呵.......

bh22wsc · 发表于 2010-6-10 12:38:53

25楼黑可以接走卒8进1，再运炮扯开红方防线，似乎仍黑胜。

bh22wsc · 发表于 2010-6-10 22:41:26

就如一招惊心所说，在红方九路加一只后兵生根，可以维持和棋，但是也有退将局长打卒的棋规纠纷，和三兵连营一样的问题，但不失为一则好局。其实真正没有纠纷的三兵局就是在双兵连营基础上加一只七.六位兵，则可以唯一正和。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-11 00:50:10

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35樓的第二個改局我也擬過^__^

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-11 00:54:27

13樓可這樣和
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-11 00:58:20

修飾一下變著
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-11 01:04:46

不對,這樣還是黑勝
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-11 01:21:10

25樓應能和
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bh22wsc · 发表于 2010-6-11 07:33:00

这样呢，
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bh22wsc · 发表于 2010-6-11 07:35:14

回复 36# 聨吟客

真是英雄所见略同，您和小车马也都拟过那局，那是唯一的修改方案，难免大家都找到啊。

bh22wsc · 发表于 2010-6-11 07:40:39

这样是边兵连营，和一着惊心说的道理相同，黑方走象5进3和象5退3都是和局。但仍有炮架之争的长打卒棋规纠纷，不过也不失为一则好局。
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-11 09:58:49

我的另一改局,已另開主題討論
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沉默 · 发表于 2010-6-14 18:32:58

双兵连营黑胜也！！呵呵至于边兵连营我觉得是和棋，如果把双兵连营的一路兵移到三路兵位，我觉得仍是黒胜 44楼红胜呵呵

沉默 · 发表于 2010-6-14 18:37:31

22楼黑棋能取胜！

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-14 23:35:28

44樓紅勝,呵呵呵!!!!

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-14 23:38:40

請沉默棋友列出22樓的黑勝法讓大家共同研究^ __^

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-14 23:45:27

45樓不知所云,怎麼會有一路兵?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-14 23:46:42

邊兵連營依照正式棋規也是黑勝的

沉默 · 发表于 2010-6-15 14:36:00

双兵连营黑胜,把双兵连营的九路兵移到七路兵位也是黑胜,边兵连营和棋. 22楼单兵必败. 有什么问题的到视娱乐找我

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-15 15:47:50

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2010-6-15 15:49 编辑

請在此列出走法好嗎?

邊兵聨吟依照正式規則也是黑勝

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-15 15:51:56

依照正式規則(無論大陸或亞洲規則)均判黑勝
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bh22wsc · 发表于 2010-6-15 18:42:59

此局也和三兵局有一样的棋规纠纷。
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沉默 · 发表于 2010-6-16 08:08:59

到泓弈去看吧，昨晚棋缘已经把七路兵的黑胜法发上去了，看完了你也应该知道单兵必败了

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-16 10:01:30

22樓呢?

雙兵連營除了黑以棋規(糾紛?)取勝之外,王首成先生已研究25樓也黑勝
正確結論黑勝沒問題

現在是針對22樓黑也能勝嗎?
如22樓走法能和也是黑劣成和
但你說22樓能黑勝是如何能勝呢?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-16 10:08:12

王首成先生是說增加七.六位兵可和

並不是說把九路兵移到七路(這樣當然黑勝囉)

^__^

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-16 10:19:43

22樓最後雖然只剩單兵
但佔位佳似可逼和
如果你認為黑有妙法可勝請列出走法好嗎

zoomlp · 发表于 2010-6-16 11:21:18

分析此局最好不要引用亚规，有点不伦不类就好象古装戏有人拿出打火机！！！！！！

聨吟客 · 发表于 2010-6-16 11:28:44

使用大陸規則也是黑勝呀

兩種規則都是黑勝

有什麼問題嗎??????????

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