冷着宽紧棋局检验（一）

迟暮寒士

邢春波 发表于 2013-6-12 21:38
重新修订整理，请高老师和大家看看是否还有问题。

      这则排局着法很精彩很奥妙，同时也很复杂，变着很多。要把它完全表述清楚，确实很难，很麻烦。
      这几天在此排局上，很多棋友都进行了参与和讨论。尤其是邢老师，重拟局面，修订着法，见招拆招，一定花了不少精力。这些都是高老师惹的祸，也不知高老师现在躲在哪里看热闹。

迟暮寒士

高原红 发表于 2013-6-5 11:16
回复高原 红 添士炼丹

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[DhtmlXQ_comment22]||   如果改走士5进4，则炮六平二 卒1平2，炮二退七（退八也可以）将4平5，兵七平六 士4退5，帅六平五，兵吃死士，【红胜定】。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63]||   【红胜】。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]||  【红胜】。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_25]退炮错着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]||  黑欠行，必定失士或失卒，【红胜定】。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]
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      末尾几步只想着吃子了，没想到可以兵六平五困毙速胜。
      本局现在的排法很不合理，红方还有别的取胜着法。
      这局排局黑方只有一个士，且红兵在黑2线，已把黑将控制在底线，着法简单，还未达到最佳布局状态。经过进一步研究，红兵在3线，黑将在2线，红方也有办法取胜。甚至給黑方添加双士，红方似乎也可取胜。正在研究中。

邢春波

迟暮寒士 发表于 2013-6-14 10:31
末尾几步只想着吃子了，没想到可以兵六平五困毙速胜。
      本局现在的排法很不合理，红方还有别 ...

如下图，黑方有双士，红方也是必胜。
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邢春波 发表于 2013-6-14 19:22
如下图，黑方有双士，红方也是必胜。

      新编排局：双士炼丹，
      起初认为黑有双士，将在宫顶，红方根没有取胜的可能。后来在“单象炼丹”中，学到一些着法，有了这些着法，发现红方大有取胜的机会。还不完全确定，有待棋友们帮助校对。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment73]【红胜】。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]【红胜定】。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
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邢春波

迟暮寒士 发表于 2013-6-15 00:28
新编排局：双士炼丹，
      起初认为黑有双士，将在宫顶，红方根没有取胜的可能。后来在“单象炼 ...

着法基本正确，着法虽长但太平淡，从昨天就开始考虑这个局面觉得不如这样
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邢春波 发表于 2013-6-15 20:40
着法基本正确，着法虽长但太平淡，从昨天就开始考虑这个局面觉得不如这样

        我也觉得“双士炼丹”局着法有些平淡，确实再也想不出改进的方法了。不过对于没接触过“炼丹”局着法的人或其他一般棋迷，还是有一定难度的，就像我第一次看到“三仙炼丹”局一样，局面简单明朗，怎么也想不出红黑双方会有什么妙手绝招。
        你推荐的这局棋局，从表面上看，似乎不具有“炼丹”局的特征，着法可能超出了“炼丹”局的范畴，是另外特色的炮兵巧胜排局。我初步研究了一下着法，不知对否。
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迟暮寒士

       “双士炼丹”着法确实有点平淡无奇，我在百度象棋吧发表了该局，让吧友破解，以测试其难度。开始吧友们找不到解决方法，我一提示“三仙炼丹”着法，吧友们很快就破解了，其中还出现了新的破解着法。

邢春波

65楼只是一个雏形可以深加工，下图即是并且还可修改
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邢春波

迟暮寒士 发表于 2013-6-15 00:28
新编排局：双士炼丹，
      起初认为黑有双士，将在宫顶，红方根没有取胜的可能。后来在“单象炼 ...

修改成这样着法较紧凑
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邢春波 发表于 2013-6-16 19:47
65楼只是一个雏形可以深加工，下图即是并且还可修改

兵卒离将帅原来越远，感觉有些摸不到头脑。行棋路子太多，没有拟局者的引导，一时让人无从下手。

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邢春波 发表于 2013-6-17 21:46
修改成这样着法较紧凑

     红方有一个士和有两个士，着法好像都一样。
      另外一种着法：
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   补充注释：第17步黑应走士4进5，否则红兵七进一，再进炮打士，红捷径速胜。

      这一局太简单了，要是能把“添士炼丹“局改进成和”添象炼丹“局差不多难度的排局就好了，二者并称”姊妹局“，再加上传统的”三仙炼丹“局，三者可称做”母女“三局。

邢春波

迟暮寒士 发表于 2013-6-18 10:16
红方有一个士和有两个士，着法好像都一样。
      另外一种着法：
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红去掉一士，可以减去64楼哪路胜法。

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邢春波 发表于 2013-6-18 21:01
红去掉一士，可以减去64楼哪路胜法。

发现红方又有了新变着可胜，致使红方仍可用64楼主着取胜。
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承云医疾

yjr123 发表于 2013-4-28 11:57

这是修改局，请指正  [DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment53]自此黑方欠行，红破士破卒即胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
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承云医疾

邢春波 发表于 2013-8-2 06:32

谢谢邢春波棋友的诠注！继续修改-砍去第一回合（即走至第一回合为起始局面）请指正，谢谢！
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_53]红方取胜妙着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_53]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_66]红方功亏一篑，黑方倖和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_57]回马又一次调整单双步！[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]至此，黑方欠行，以下红方破卒破士取胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_63]
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