单子杀组局探秘

zhaodi · 发表于 2007-8-12 22:02:00

要下载到本机,使用象棋演播室观看.

yjr123 · 发表于 2007-8-13 07:25:00

为方便浏览和编辑发贴，特转换成电子书：

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rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-13 21:52:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用yjr123在2007-8-13 7:25:00的发言：

为方便浏览和编辑发贴，特转换成电子书：

谢谢余版主提供<一子入局排局谱>的电子书文件,查阅起来方便很多,里面有好多独到见解!

不过,笔者对"陈权兵变"局存有不同看法:原谱中第40着是后车平4,这说明原棋图有误.

zhaodi · 发表于 2007-8-13 22:44:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用rixiao123在2007-8-13 21:52:00的发言：

谢谢余版主提供<一子入局排局谱>的电子书文件,查阅起来方便很多,里面有好多独到见解!

不过,笔者对"陈权兵变"局存有不同看法:原谱中第40着是后车平4,这说明原棋图有误.

另立一新帖发表着法,不要用文字表诉,要用着法演变才可探讨,否则不知所云.

恕我直言,余先生的交流方式有点问题,

如果自己不说清自己的意愿,别人不会懂的你的意愿,

我参加了个培训班,其中有个假装聋子\哑巴\盲人的交流,不知其中味是真的不知!

所以,我以往发的帖子尽量表诉清楚,让大家都明白.

我这帖没有歧视贬低余先生的意思,只是希望余先生能尽快的掌握网络棋盘的技巧.别无它意.

对"陈权兵变"局存有不同看法:原谱中第40着是后车平4,这说明原棋图有误.

"陈权兵变"是" 陈桥兵变"之误!

且已经将速胜法列出,就在第4回合.不知"原棋图有误"在何处?请指明

另一位余先生给了个简单的察看模式,让这一位余先生失去了一次学习"象棋演播室"软件的机会,遗憾!

古语,书非借不能读也.逼不到一定份上是不会学习的!!!

酒话,见谅!!

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rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-13 23:17:00

棋史是无私的.

667 · 发表于 2007-8-13 23:21:00

心底话，支持！

rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-14 18:58:00

根据余版主提供<一子入局排局谱>的电子书文件

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rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-14 19:12:00

<一子入局排局谱>第 82页陈桥兵变

根据作者原意,可能是这样

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有请赵版主指点

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zhaodi · 发表于 2007-8-14 22:51:00

呵呵,日晓先生终于懂得交流的真谛了!

对,就应该象以上2帖样,说明棋局的来龙去脉,自己的不同观点,以及有差别之处,他人才可琢磨研究.

请将不如激将.

98楼分析的清楚,是这样的结局,很可能印刷时掉了1个车,造成速胜.加上这个1路车后,只能按原着法一子杀!

成立!

zhaodi · 发表于 2007-8-14 23:02:00

代高原红先生帖(百22预投局)

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上图攻子力量集中，攻点较少。黑方防卫力看似强大但好的防守点位均被其子相互堵塞而没有发挥其效能。这样的局面我个人认为应该创作“连照一子杀排局”的较好“构形”，我将此局形改作为四则单子杀局即“单车杀、单马杀、单炮杀、单兵杀”。请欣赏排局并指正。

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zhaodi · 发表于 2007-8-14 23:06:00

金鼓撼天［单炮杀］

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谷地伏兵［单兵杀］

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疾风劲草［单马杀］

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慧眼千秋［单车杀］

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凌云子 · 发表于 2007-8-14 23:22:00

上楼4个图的结尾,黑都非要吃炮啊!

而黑不吃炮,一子入局则无法成立!

如谷地伏兵

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高原红 · 发表于 2007-8-14 23:36:00

凌云子指出的问题正确，两种方法均可胜均为27回合此局需修改！

zhaodi · 发表于 2007-8-14 23:39:00

102楼,这这.........

黑一样的输棋,同步数,为何不吃掉红的有生力量?当然,你这步也可作为变着当作注解!以单兵杀为正变.呵呵.

凌云子 · 发表于 2007-8-14 23:50:00

不能一厢情愿,不能寄希望对方(黑方)主动配合,来演绎红方的一子入局.

rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-16 20:14:00

根据余版主提供《一子入局排局谱》的电子书文件

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rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-16 20:23:00

《一子入局排局谱》第2页先声夺人

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rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-16 20:39:00

接106，107楼
为了维持原谱着法，把9，2位黑车移到9，10位，是否成立？供大家讨论。

rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-18 17:57:00

8路黑炮退1位

rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-18 17:58:00

7路黑卒进1位

rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-18 17:58:00

一路红炮移到四,一位

rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-26 19:32:00

根据余版主提供《一子入局排局谱》的电子书文件
此书中共有四十多处错误。

zhaodi · 发表于 2007-8-26 20:00:00

回rixiao123棋友，上面几楼的修改棋局不成立． [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]1先声夺人[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]22324232122232422232423223333242333242320513324213214232214032424021423221133242263446341334423234533242514142525955475541515251533251507555[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]5105999949999926756259122223999972468299429999478940785538582969[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp%3Fboardid%3D48%26replyid%3D82760%26id%3D15224%26skin%3D0%26page%3D1%26star%3D11[/DhtmlXQ_refer] [DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator] [/DhtmlXQ]

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rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-26 20:37:00

第113楼

见解正确.

rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-26 20:40:00

9路黑车移到9,5位.如何?

zhaodi · 发表于 2007-8-26 21:24:00

也不成立，红无杀了．

rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-26 21:52:00

不好意志说一下: 第115楼 9路黑车移到9,6位.如何?

rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-29 18:25:00

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这样能成立吗？

yanyun · 发表于 2007-8-29 21:19:00

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rixiao123 · 发表于 2007-8-29 21:49:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用dave7788在2007-5-7 8:03:00的发言：

倒海探珠浙江余日晓拟局红先胜 (原载《百十九》，《象艺》转载)

此局初稿中，7路，8路，9路都是封锁的。7路：用红兵设在三，九位；8路：用红兵设在二，八位；9路：用铁卒与象。
由于结局时，三，九位红兵依旧存在，成了车兵二子杀局，这是非笔者所愿。追其原因：鸳鸯炮运到三，九位轰将，而
黑方却走软着，致使三，九位非设红兵不可。后又深入研究，终于想出黑方走炮6进4，又炮6平4等精彩之着，故删去冗
子三，九位红兵也可。至此，可以说：大功告成。

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