“鸿雁双飞”大探讨！！！

大征西 · 发表于 2014-6-21 01:11:48

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-21 00:41

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大征西 · 发表于 2014-6-21 01:22:29

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-21 00:41

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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-6-21 01:22:42

大征西发表于 2014-6-21 01:11

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大征西 · 发表于 2014-6-21 01:30:19

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-21 01:22

这样如何应

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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-6-21 01:32:27

先讨论完153楼，让这一变有结论再说。
我就自己接下去153楼的着法吧。
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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-6-21 01:55:24

大征西发表于 2014-6-21 01:30
这样如何应

现在回复154楼。
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-6-22 12:25:36

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-21 01:55
现在回复154楼。

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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-6-22 13:44:35

大征西发表于 2014-6-22 12:25

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]软，黑应改着仍可胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-6-23 00:07:59

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-22 13:44

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2]这样，红怎么和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-6-23 08:46:22

大征西发表于 2014-6-23 00:07

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]软，黑应改着仍可胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]5848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]这样，红怎么和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-6-23 12:35:47

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-23 08:46

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]软，黑应改着仍可胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0] 26楼之胜和关键局面！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]5848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]这样，红怎么和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-6-23 12:46:51

大征西发表于 2014-6-23 12:35

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]软，黑应改着仍可胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]5848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]这样，红怎么和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-6-23 14:05:57

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-23 12:46

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]软，黑应改着仍可胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]5848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-6-23 14:28:05

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-21 01:32
先讨论完153楼，让这一变有结论再说。
我就自己接下去153楼的着法吧。

黑这样
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]软，黑应改着仍可胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]5848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]这样，红怎么和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_2]37384847[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]和定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-6-23 14:38:21

大征西发表于 2014-6-23 14:28
黑这样

真是太无聊了，这种局面还要讨论，我要怀疑你的棋力是否处于未入门的阶段？

zhaodi · 发表于 2014-6-23 16:00:15

呵呵，那就这样吧，我也不陪蒋兄玩了，结论到底是胜是和，自行研究吧。

其实155楼，第18回合卒8进1后，直接下个“和棋”的定论就结束了。黑没有炮架了。

菜鸟来玩 · 发表于 2014-9-12 18:25:48

本帖最后由菜鸟来玩于 2014-9-12 18:32 编辑

大征西发表于 2014-5-12 19:42
以上是《百局象棋谱（精编版）》的黑胜着法。以下再看《象棋残局生死棋型》中的主要着法：

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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
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17回合红相七进九是败招，另外炮六退三也是败招，应改为兵八平七，谢谢。

飞天神弈 · 发表于 2014-10-17 18:14:57

此局红方应对正确，和局无疑。

象棋天使 · 发表于 2016-10-24 15:57:35

经过反复认真地研究，我认为这局《鸿雁双飞》正确结论的确是和棋！

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-10-25 02:19:57

呵呵呵呵呵...........................

我看得很開心

大征西 · 发表于 2016-10-25 20:58:14

一叶障目不见泰山！

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-25 08:10:17

這個帖子討論到最後也未見征西兄提出讓人信服的具體黑勝走法

chouzhouyu · 发表于 2018-11-28 12:03:22

不了了之了。

石川铃华老湿 · 发表于 2021-1-10 13:14:40

大湿前来观看，结果还是和棋。

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