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yuntao云涛

聨吟客 发表于 2014-9-14 00:15
試擬走法

这样实现
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22]以下黑用象和车司机应着，红方的得车手段是怎么实现的？红帅是如何能到六路的？[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
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yuntao云涛

聨吟客 发表于 2014-9-14 01:55
97樓更快嘿嘿嘿,強軟快不過了吧

是我纯人算的，19回合黑还犯了错误，惭愧，不过98楼没有规则问题，赢的干净

yuntao云涛

聨吟客 发表于 2014-9-14 10:50
97樓就是104樓的完整走法,98樓若用亞規就派上用場

既有104，何须97？既用97，当取98

yuntao云涛

聨吟客 发表于 2014-9-14 11:23
所以7回合黑不應進車而應走象可拖延步數

就中国象棋2011规则【国内】
请教大家一个问题，本图是在http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_4c5fb5c30101i4r1.html找到的，第26条  棋例通则：26.3  一方形成“自毙”，应由己方负责，不得视为另一方造成;若另一方应将着法产生新的杀法，仍应按“杀”判处(见图19、)
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再看104楼


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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]再运帅到六路也是得车胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]以下黑用象和车司机应着，红方的得车手段是怎么实现的？红帅是如何能到六路的？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]这样实现[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5]这样可以逼黑方犯规[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]将[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]应将后算的上增加了炮8进7的杀着吗？||||如果根据19图解释应该可以算杀着[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]捉||||||根据图19理论，红方长杀，黑方一将一捉，||双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
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红第五回合【士5进6】应将后算的上增加了炮8进7的杀着吗？如果算，则红方长杀，黑方一将一捉，||双方不变作和

yuntao云涛

聨吟客 发表于 2014-9-14 11:44
呵呵, 亞規有亞規的勝法

判红胜的说法不对
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_21]再运帅到六路也是得车胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]以下黑用象和车司机应着，红方的得车手段是怎么实现的？红帅是如何能到六路的？[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]這樣速勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]用亞規[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment19]亞規判紅勝||||||怎么可以判红胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
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yuntao云涛

象棋法官 发表于 2014-9-14 13:51
第一例：黑炮垫将的同时产生了杀，判打。
第二例：红方撑士不是杀，杀是黑车离开防守位置造成，判红一闲 ...

第一例：黑炮垫将的同时产生了杀，判打。
这个有争议，黑炮不垫将改成垫士也照样进车直接杀红棋，杀棋是红车离中造成的，跟垫炮无关，黑为何此招判打？
第二例：红方撑士不是杀，杀是黑车离开防守位置造成，判红一闲，红方退士一杀
第一例如果判打，第二例为何不判打？
第二例如果判闲，第一例为何不判闲？