車馬進洞

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-11 19:54:14

呵呵呵,今天又擬了個草圖,不知紅能不能和

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高原红 · 发表于 2015-6-11 20:15:35

试解！ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7999299949990764849922999999991399990230404142999999169966584738[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]車馬進洞聨吟客陳明仁擬局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]797042602220022070604150645240415233413160613041614150413312161284341232343847483848584849483242485866561323313023334252584852502947504007255646476546366547415247693637332337384849524125474132476520426947[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_1]2042[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_1] [/DhtmlXQ]

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-11 20:24:18

感謝王老師,如果最後黑方可以走成卒換雙相,形成炮士象對高兵,紅方謀和就要很小心,這是我的理想,不知能否實現?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-12 06:25:04

這樣走法成立否?

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-16 20:52:42

呵呵呵,我很喜歡炮士象對高兵的殘局

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-17 06:07:20

補充變著

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-17 20:11:11

糟糕, 40回合紅方沒有走子,呵呵呵, 怎麼會這樣

重新修正會很累耶,怎麼辦?

湖艓 · 发表于 2015-6-17 20:22:55

糟糕, 40回合紅方沒有走子,呵呵呵, 怎麼會這樣重新修正會很累耶,怎麼辦?[/quote] 可先复制后半部分着法然后切掉补充红着法在软件（象棋桥？象棋书库？）中粘贴完整着法再自动生成ubb格式代码

湖艓 · 发表于 2015-6-17 20:39:30

我添加了部分变着但后面有几个添加不了请陈老师再补充修正 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]车马进洞陈明仁[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8464079949992999792299139999999999990230404142999916996647385899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]7970426022200220706041506452404152334131606130416141504133121612843412323438474838485848494832521323525023335030332366560725313229472042472956462947463647654152250732310725304065474041233336373323313023333040332340502333414033235051233342644765524165475152332352422333415233233747254740472333474633434232435352414847461647481610484710404757648257588260585732425343423243533242534342324353405057475040475760425758323153433130585730315758426043534050584850404858313258573242534342324353[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_99_1]534341525747504043333231474860424858403033233132584852414847426047483040485832422333415233434043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_99_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_115_2]47573242233341523343424143533050[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_115_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_121_3]57473040[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_121_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_99_4]536332425758415263535053[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_99_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_91_5]5758405053434232585741525747504043333231474860424858403033233132584842604847524147483040485832422333415233434043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_91_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_99_6]4353604247574050[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_99_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_99_7]47576042433332315758403033233132584842604847524147483040485832422333415233434043[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_99_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_61_8]48585141584841423323374725474047233347463343423243535241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_61_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_9]3132843432423444423212203231443441323432[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_20_10]425212335251445441525452[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_20_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_11]313041403040332140418481[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_12]706041506452404184444151221247484448384849395859124216566066594942495659[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_7_13]5233413160613041335231328434324234444232443432423438161938394748[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_7_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_14]84804260[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_15]22204220[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_15] [/DhtmlXQ]

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-17 22:13:16

非常感謝湖艓老師,這樣我再補充就省力多了

zhaodi · 发表于 2015-6-17 23:02:57

湖艓发表于 2015-6-17 20:39
我添加了部分变着
但后面有几个添加不了
请陈老师再补充修正

第35回合，黑卒换双相是软着，造成和棋。应该落边象、退将、使红兵远离至七路时再换双相！或争取卒占花心。
此局黑胜。

湖艓 · 发表于 2015-6-17 23:21:50

第35回合，黑卒换双相是软着，造成和棋。应该落边象、退将、使红兵远离至七路时再换双相！或争取卒占花 ...[/quote] 回赵老师着法还是陈老师拟的（6L）我是帮忙重新贴图以方便修改编辑

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-18 00:33:03

zhaodi 发表于 2015-6-17 23:02
第35回合，黑卒换双相是软着，造成和棋。应该落边象、退将、使红兵远离至七路时再换双相！或争取卒占花 ...

嗯,黑可先調整將象位置再卒換雙相,取得更有利的形勢,雖黑勝但曲折奧妙, 我再看看能否改和局但又不會太平淡無味的局形

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-18 07:06:32

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2015-6-18 07:22 编辑

雖然黑勝 ,但黑勝法曲折細膩＿奧妙精彩,自己也很喜愛,如果還有機會當棋攤主我會擺此局滴

至於如何改成和局且又不至於太平淡簡單,是排局作者稍微不同于棋攤主立場的地方,呵呵呵,不過有些局面是勉強不來的,我記得以前曾經成功把古局龍馬負圖改成最後走成高兵對炮士象的和局,還要查一下

先看本局精妙的黑勝法

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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_84]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_84]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment19_86]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_86]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment20_84]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_84]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment21_95]黑難勝 \u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_95]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_91]||c黑難勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_91]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22_91]||黑難勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_91]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23_81]黑難勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_84]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_88]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_88]
[DhtmlXQ_move_27_83_26]58481040[/DhtmlXQ_move_27_83_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_84]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment102]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_102]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_102]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_79_27]485842123343121043531050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_79_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_96]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_96]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_29_81_31]38394240[/DhtmlXQ_move_29_81_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_82]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_82]
[DhtmlXQ_move_29_81_32]38484240[/DhtmlXQ_move_29_81_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_82]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_82]||同主變黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72]以上兩回合黑先調整象將位置乃趙殿忠老師的詮正走法,黑可勝o[/DhtmlXQ_comment72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78]好像只有此妙著能勝!!||由此可知36回合退將之妙!![/DhtmlXQ_comment78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_70]參考主變黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_70]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34538%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-18 07:47:16

這樣修改圖如何

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[DhtmlXQ_title]車馬進洞聨吟客陳明仁擬局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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★星海★ · 发表于 2015-6-18 08:30:54

聨吟客发表于 2015-6-18 07:06
雖然黑勝 ,但黑勝法曲折細膩＿奧妙精彩,自己也很喜愛,如果還有機會當棋攤主我會擺此局滴
至於如何改成 ...

37回合平兵就不如走帅五退一。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-18 11:06:57

曾兄說得有理 ,我再琢磨琢磨

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-19 05:55:16

整理一下,仍以我原來走法為主變,大家看看還有沒有問題

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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_84]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_84]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment19_86]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_86]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment20_84]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_84]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment24_91]||c黑難勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_91]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22_91]||黑難勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_91]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment27_84]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_88]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_88]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment32_82]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_82]||同主變黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_78]好像只有此妙著能勝!!||由此可知36回合退將之妙!![/DhtmlXQ_comment33_78]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_91_5]5758405053434232585741525747504043333231474860424858403033233132584842604847524147483040485832422333415233434043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_91_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_105_40]58594132595840415859313059583040536341515848405048584220584851416353505148494140494820424838405053635152384832414849422449485040483852426353413253434043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_105_40][DhtmlXQ_comment41_120]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_120]
[DhtmlXQ_move_40_113_41]58594050595841405859505159584050[/DhtmlXQ_move_40_113_41][DhtmlXQ_comment42_126]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_126]
[DhtmlXQ_move_40_115_42]585942245958404158594142595832415859415263535153[/DhtmlXQ_move_40_115_42][DhtmlXQ_comment40_142]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_142]
[DhtmlXQ_move_40_135_43]49395242635341325343424143335030[/DhtmlXQ_move_40_135_43][DhtmlXQ_comment43_142]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_142]
[DhtmlXQ_move_40_119_44]585950405958404158594142595832415859415263535153[/DhtmlXQ_move_40_119_44][DhtmlXQ_comment44_130]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_130]
[DhtmlXQ_move_40_123_45]4838204238394140[/DhtmlXQ_move_40_123_45][DhtmlXQ_comment45_126]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_126][DhtmlXQ_comment121]局面循環,和 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment121][DhtmlXQ_comment15_2]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_2][DhtmlXQ_comment14_2]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_2][DhtmlXQ_comment12_20]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_20][DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_22][DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19][DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25][DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_25][DhtmlXQ_comment7_118]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_118][DhtmlXQ_comment6_102]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_102][DhtmlXQ_comment5_118]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_118][DhtmlXQ_comment4_104]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_104][DhtmlXQ_comment1_122]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_122][DhtmlXQ_comment2_122]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_122][DhtmlXQ_comment3_121]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_121]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34538%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-19 06:14:32

由趙老師與曾老師提出的變化行成之副圖,值得探討,紅先應走退帥(曾老師走法 )似可和,如果此局面黑先呢?紅是和是敗?

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-19 06:24:34

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2015-6-19 06:26 编辑

19樓如果誰先都能和局那就沒問題,如果黑先可勝,那本局之前黑有沒有辦法調整單雙步而取勝呢?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-19 13:28:25

呵呵呵,不知以前有沒有發表過這局, 自認為改得很好,也改一下局名

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[DhtmlXQ_binit]7418999959999964739999999999838499992430404142999999289999485739[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]龍馬精神聨吟客陳明仁擬局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]改進自淵深海闊象棋譜的龍馬負圖局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34538%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-19 13:47:13

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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7418999959999964849999999999241499992030404142999999289999485739[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 淵深海闊象棋譜之龍馬負圖原局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]8480426080604150645240415233413160613041614150413312313274343242344442321220282044482050485832421837575859584152375650562434567614247670344470402434[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34538%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-19 14:01:33

另外江湖殘局陷阱奇觀第82局龍馬負圖,八路兵改在九路,最後走成高兵對炮士和局

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[DhtmlXQ_binit]7418999959999964849999999999240499992030404142999999289999485739[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 江湖殘局陷阱奇觀之龍馬負圖局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment49]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-19 14:14:51

暫時沒有發現18與19樓黑方有新的勝法,如果18樓和局,大家比較喜歡18樓還是21樓呢

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-20 11:46:57

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2015-6-20 11:49 编辑

18樓還是有問題,紅左相走的位置不對

晚點再修正
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_9]3132843432423444423212203231443441323432[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_86]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_86]
[DhtmlXQ_move_18_80_17]82604353414253524252[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_80_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_84]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_84]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment19_86]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_86]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_24_80_20]47464353415153525152[/DhtmlXQ_move_24_80_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_84]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_84]
[DhtmlXQ_move_24_90_21]405043333241493910303343[/DhtmlXQ_move_24_90_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_95]黑難勝 \u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_95]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_91]||c黑難勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_91]
[DhtmlXQ_move_24_90_22]32414959[/DhtmlXQ_move_24_90_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_91]||黑難勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_91]
[DhtmlXQ_move_33_78_23]4140334347774838[/DhtmlXQ_move_33_78_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_81]黑難勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_84]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_88]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_88]
[DhtmlXQ_move_27_83_26]58481040[/DhtmlXQ_move_27_83_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_84]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_102]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_102]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_102]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_102]
[DhtmlXQ_move_33_79_30]4849413149484240[/DhtmlXQ_move_33_79_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_33_79_29]483841313332313038484240483840603839606232313040393840503848505148496261[/DhtmlXQ_move_33_79_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_33_79_27]485842123343121043531050[/DhtmlXQ_move_33_79_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_96]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_96]
[DhtmlXQ_move_33_95_28]49593242233341523343424143533050[/DhtmlXQ_move_33_95_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_29_81_31]38394240[/DhtmlXQ_move_29_81_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_82]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_82]
[DhtmlXQ_move_29_81_32]38484240[/DhtmlXQ_move_29_81_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_82]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_82]||同主變黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_78]好像只有此妙著能勝!!||由此可知36回合退將之妙!![/DhtmlXQ_comment33_78]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_73]曾峻嶺老師提出[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_82]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_82]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_16_78_34]41314342524142413141[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_78_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_82]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_82]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment35_82]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_82]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment36_82]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_82]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment37_82]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_82]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_84]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_84]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_80_39]415142525152[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_80_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_72]以上兩回合黑先調整象將位置乃趙殿忠老師提出o[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_72]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment42_126]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_126]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment40_142]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_142]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment43_142]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_142]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment44_130]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_130]
[DhtmlXQ_move_40_123_45]4838204238394140[/DhtmlXQ_move_40_123_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_126]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_126]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_121]局面循環,和 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_121]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_2]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_2]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_20]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_118]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_118]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_102]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_102]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_118]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_118]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_104]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_122]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_122]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_122]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_122]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_121]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_121]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment76]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment76]
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★星海★ · 发表于 2015-6-20 13:20:41

红22回合可走相九退七。
黑21应炮4平5逼红方落三路相，可走成卒换双相胜法。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-20 18:43:08

嗯,18回合是否應相五退三?此局越挖掘越奧妙了,尚未細研,我再找時間研究,也歡迎大家有時間的話幫忙

★星海★ · 发表于 2015-6-20 19:04:25

本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2015-6-21 08:04 编辑

红方有两个要点：
1,不能飞高相。
2.相不能与卒同侧。
这是最强防御阵形。红方的应着没有对错，黑胜只是时间问题。关键是黑方进卒之前，应使红方走成底相且与卒同侧。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-6-23 18:37:44

21樓走法

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