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yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 10:59
156楼黑将5平4是闲，应由红方变，不变作负。

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你说那是犯规的话，这步带有三步成杀的长杀手段，那不就是算走闲了？你平帅带有卒一步抽车，那是闲的话，那我这步更是闲了

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聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-25 11:25
沒有誰幫誰啦

都是討論走法與規則本身

你看见147楼没？他直接整盘成黑胜了，都不等我来辩论了！很明显这人的心态就是要用尽办法来当这是黑胜。
147楼他直接给黑胜，不管我来不来辩论，还有九十一楼还是一直用我昵称当残名，之前说了还这样，此行为足以证明人品不咋样。

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yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 12:00
平将之前就存在抽车的手段，也就是说抽车和平将无关，算闲。
退一步说，走将帅作为应将而产生的捉也算闲 ...

就算156犯规，那157、158楼，你咋说？

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yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 12:23
这是讨论发表自己的观点，他认为黑胜，并整理了全局着法，你可以找到一个红方变着能够和棋，就能够推翻他 ...

昨天一直在跟他辩论，到中途不等我回来辩论，他直接摆全盘了，局面还导向黑胜

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yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 12:23
这是讨论发表自己的观点，他认为黑胜，并整理了全局着法，你可以找到一个红方变着能够和棋，就能够推翻他 ...

他全局还有些棋规问题都没整清楚，他就草草的下了结果

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凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 12:30
关于158楼，在147楼给了比较完整的着法。

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凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 12:36
157楼，已经在91楼，92楼，介绍过，你再看看

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你走吧！91、92楼没有退士变化

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凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 12:47
158见147楼第三十回合红方车三平六变。

这那个落象了！！！让我说几遍？

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凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 12:52

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凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 12:52

我走了么？你又全盘摆你认为的干什么

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凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 12:52

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这个你咋说？

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凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 12:52

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凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 13:23
回复182楼

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剑影¤独步

凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 13:41

187楼新变着，你咋走？

剑影¤独步

凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 13:45

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剑影¤独步

凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 19:31

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凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 19:31

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剑影¤独步

规则书是死的，人是活的，以前棋规有些问题还末完善，要有自己的主见才行
法律也是每段时间改了又改的，以前可以砍自己种的树，现在不可以。
以前可以杀野猪，然后改的不能杀，现在又可以杀野猪
以前可以打鸟，现在基本上不能打死任何鸟。
规则是死的！要不断修改才可以完善。
以前又没东萍这么方便摆子去定棋规，所以还有漏网的棋规或者比较乱的棋规，裁判都没考虑到。
裁判只管写书，没听取广大网民建议，所以棋规弄的不是很满意！
关键象棋又不是定棋规裁判发明的，顶多只能认可他部分建议，对于士、象这类守子不能常抓，我是不同意他的建议。

剑影¤独步

凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 21:11

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凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 21:32

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凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 22:14

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[DhtmlXQ_comment57]27回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59]28回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61]29回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63]30回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65]31回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67]32回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69]33回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71]34回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73]35回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75]36回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77]37回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79]38回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81]39回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83]40回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85]41回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment85]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87]42回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89]43回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82]1次一将一杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86]改变了路线，多了次抓子，算增加了一步可犯规步数。||||2次一将一杀减1次\u003D1次一将一杀||因为改变了航线，按抓子及杀着算！出现抓子增加一次犯规机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88]说明：一将一杀超过三次才会犯规！||||也就是第四次！||||一次将军[/DhtmlXQ_comment88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90]二次将军[/DhtmlXQ_comment90]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91]44回合未吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment91]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92]清空一将一杀及连将次数||||闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment92]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93]45回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95]46回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment95]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_108]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_108]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96]一次一将一杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment96]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97]47回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99]48回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101]49回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment101]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100]2次将军[/DhtmlXQ_comment100]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98]1次将军[/DhtmlXQ_comment98]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_102]闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_102]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_105]51回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_105]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_107]52回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_107]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_109]53回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_109]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_103]50回合末吃子||||部分地区50回合末吃子判和！大都是60回合末吃子判和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_103]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102]闲着||||你耍赖说这叫“捉”那也才一次！[/DhtmlXQ_comment102]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103]50回合末吃子||||部分地区50回合末吃子判和！大都是60回合末吃子判和[/DhtmlXQ_comment103]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105]51回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment105]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107]52回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment107]
[DhtmlXQ_comment109]53回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment109]
[DhtmlXQ_comment111]54回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment111]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113]55回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment113]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115]56回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment115]
[DhtmlXQ_comment117]57回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment117]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118]58回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment118]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119]58回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment119]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121]59回合末吃子[/DhtmlXQ_comment121]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123]60回合末吃子||||自然限着 和[/DhtmlXQ_comment123]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment124]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_110]这样拖65回合未吃子都没问题[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_110]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44]20回合未吃子||||如果这把这当是犯规，但也没达四次！[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
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剑影¤独步

剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-27 04:28

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[DhtmlXQ_comment5]继续[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
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剑影¤独步

剑影¤独步

还想咋的？你不是过份棋规化么？你这超过自然限着了，和定！还能赖不？跟你继续到底。

剑影¤独步

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[DhtmlXQ_comment27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1]6717423231213242171242411211[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1][DhtmlXQ_comment17]已解一[/DhtmlXQ_comment17][DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]继续[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23][DhtmlXQ_comment0]212楼有的是办法60回合不吃子和||||213楼我走了么？你瞎猜一通的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_2]59584140323152413733[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]继续[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_13][DhtmlXQ_comment9]继续一[/DhtmlXQ_comment9][DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]继续二[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9][DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]继续三[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_10_3]826032314142371752411767[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_10_3][DhtmlXQ_comment2_10]继续四[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_10][DhtmlXQ_comment3_10]继续五[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_10][DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]继续六[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_15_4]17124132121744541767[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_15_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]继续八[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]
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一共有九个继续，及一个有办法60回合不吃子判和走法