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[排局杂谈] 飞蝶绕园系列 ”雁来红“类局汇集

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1#
发表于 2022-4-30 17:55:10 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-3-3 12:03 编辑

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2#
发表于 2022-4-30 18:12:49 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 石川铃华老湿 于 2022-4-30 18:16 编辑

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3#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-30 18:22:48 | 只看该作者
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4#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-30 18:25:55 | 只看该作者

”雁来红“好像有解为红胜局,着法已记不得了!
5#
发表于 2022-4-30 18:30:30 | 只看该作者
老鸽子 发表于 2022-4-30 18:25
”雁来红“好像有解为红胜局,着法已记不得了!

是不是大湿 弄的简洁
多提供一些你认为优秀的棋局来给大湿,看看大湿可以不手痒一下
6#
发表于 2022-4-30 18:33:30 | 只看该作者
老鸽子 发表于 2022-4-30 18:25
”雁来红“好像有解为红胜局,着法已记不得了!

大湿虽然不拟红胜局,但是不介意改红胜局的

7#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-30 18:59:05 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2022-4-30 19:10:59 | 只看该作者
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9#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-30 19:11:51 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2022-4-30 19:22:28 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-30 19:25:42 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2022-4-30 19:25:52 | 只看该作者
好啦,大湿有空再陪你玩‘
一会修改大多局,大湿会成为公愤的!
13#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-30 19:28:50 | 只看该作者

无电脑解局时代,布局没那么严谨!可增删一兵一卒,很正常。
14#
发表于 2022-4-30 19:34:09 | 只看该作者
老鸽子 发表于 2022-4-30 19:28
无电脑解局时代,布局没那么严谨!可增删一兵一卒,很正常。

你没发现炮位置移动了吗?
在原位可是不行的!
15#
发表于 2022-4-30 19:35:22 | 只看该作者
老鸽子 发表于 2022-4-30 19:28
无电脑解局时代,布局没那么严谨!可增删一兵一卒,很正常。

原局兵可不是冗子的哦
16#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-30 19:50:30 | 只看该作者
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17#
发表于 2022-4-30 19:51:21 | 只看该作者
雁来红局和局无疑
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发表于 2022-4-30 19:51:34 | 只看该作者
老鸽子 发表于 2022-4-30 19:28
无电脑解局时代,布局没那么严谨!可增删一兵一卒,很正常。

你太小看这一局删除一兵了啦!
19#
发表于 2022-4-30 19:55:57 | 只看该作者
大湿没空陪你玩了,大湿找美女图片去了
20#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-30 20:06:51 | 只看该作者
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21#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-30 21:41:52 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-4-30 21:44 编辑

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22#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-4-30 22:32:48 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2022-5-1 13:11:06 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2022-5-1 19:19:07 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-5-1 19:29 编辑

至少在同型局中是一种新思路,很不错。特别是黑中炮控制了中路(这种情况此前仅见一局,但具体图势大不相同),红马活动路线受限,增加了取胜的难度。加上布局上所作的限制,使创作难度更大。个人收藏时老师的作品甚多,仅“简洁小泥马”就收藏了六局!
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发表于 2022-5-1 20:01:16 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2022-5-2 09:17:27 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 湖艓 于 2022-5-3 12:29 编辑

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27#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-5-2 14:37:03 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-5-2 15:13 编辑

去掉了冗子,又加进这么多,总数甚至还多了两个!原图尽管有冗子,但布子却很干净、有线条,而改的这几局却让人看得眼花缭乱!走马路线上的子尽可删去,不需要这样的装饰,因其本身布子就比较多了。本类局以控制在30个回合以内为宜!

原局加进了一种新着法,故列出之。虽不算什么大作,还是有点新意的。

28#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-5-2 15:56:09 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-5-2 16:17 编辑

“锦鲤戏荷”虽着法有些新发展,但与“车借马势”一样,布子稍多,盘面不够干净!
29#
发表于 2022-5-2 18:37:15 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 湖艓 于 2022-5-2 18:41 编辑
老鸽子 发表于 2022-5-2 14:37
去掉了冗子,又加进这么多,总数甚至还多了两个!原图尽管有冗子,但布子却很干净、有线条,而改的这几局 ...

原局和26楼改局马路都较直白(马五进六)。27楼比较迂回和含蓄了,也有一些新变化。不过2路马去掉也可以。
30#
 楼主| 发表于 2022-5-3 08:37:52 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-5-3 08:40 编辑
湖艓 发表于 2022-5-2 18:37
原局和26楼改局马路都较直白(马五进六)。27楼比较迂回和含蓄了,也有一些新变化。不过2路马去掉也可以 ...

增加了一些变化当然很好,但弥补不了布子上的眼花缭乱!时鑫的那局盘面稍好看点,但问题同样!
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