二楼说法是对的,谈何容易,您第9回合将4平5是迁强之着,如走士5进6?那就无获而返.
杨大师的这局棋名为"老兵新传",要领是把兵运到底端正中位置,使4路将不能活动,然后再破士卒取胜.请再试试.
5楼着法应该成立吧
黑退士就退中车啊
啊呀,原来红车不动,就已经把黑方的将士固定住了。直接拱小兵就行了。
好眼力。
凌云子先生解的好。
10 楼4四回合定乾坤,杨大师就没算到吗?可见不那么简单.
您第二回合的卒7平6,是误着,应为卒7平8,这样走下去,也要20多回合才能结束.
这一残局看似和局,但经杨官磷大师慎密精算,经过20多回合运作,红方取得胜利.您来试试.也许更有捷径.
您有捷径?介绍一下。
10 楼4四回合定乾坤,杨大师就没算到吗?可见不那么简单.
您第二回合的卒7平6,是误着,应为卒7平8,这样走下去,也要20多回合才能结束.
不一定要把老将吃掉才算胜吧!
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4楼如这样走,请教结尾的残局红如何胜呢?
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呵呵,草率的认为车底兵有士相必胜三卒。
看来要取胜兵不能下到底线。
这样如何?
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您第8回合车三退一后,士不应5退4,而应5进6,这样处于循环状态.
17楼认为红兵不应沉底才能取胜,我试了不行.
您第8回合车三退一后,士不应5退4,而应5进6,这样处于循环状态.
这样可以吗?
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如此着法确实可胜,完整着法约24~26回合,而杨的着法省一点.
总之这局棋不管进兵不进兵,红方都可取胜,只要思考入微.
讨论有益!
这样可以循环。
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如此着法确实可胜,完整着法约24~26回合,而杨的着法省一点.
总之这局棋不管进兵不进兵,红方都可取胜,只要思考入微.
讨论有益!
进底兵黑方可以弃士求和!参看第15楼着法。
循环不了
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杨官磷大师虽是公认残局高手,经慎密精算,但还是有没考虑到的地方。
杨大师已驾鹤西去,"老兵新传"---局与名不相符,然改名就无望了。
杨官磷大师虽是公认残局高手,经慎密精算,但还是有没考虑到的地方。
杨大师已驾鹤西去,"老兵新传"---局与名不相符,然改名就无望了。
还有话说,昨晚一觉醒来,回味棋局,惊觉大师不会如此失算,反思23楼局势,发觉牵强之着:
第5回合卒7平6是错着,应为7平8!这样不能将卒逼上绝路,从而不能一兵破双士,就不能取胜.
大家再研究!
看来兵不沉底居中,红不能胜.
还有话说,昨晚一觉醒来,回味棋局,惊觉大师不会如此失算,反思23楼局势,发觉牵强之着:
第5回合卒7平6是错着,应为7平8!这样不能将卒逼上绝路,从而不能一兵破双士,就不能取胜.
大家再研究!
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看来兵不沉底居中,红不能胜.
兵沉底,红如何能胜?
你没有发现底兵时,黑3卒可和。
明摆着这里不能走卒7平8,即使新手也不会这样走!
请参见4楼棋局,杨大师的着法.
明摆着这里不能走卒7平8,即使新手也不会这样走!
请参见4楼棋局,杨大师的着法.
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你重提4楼有新的理解吗?
通过1局尝试,看不出新手还是大师的功力。
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这是31楼棋图及4楼杨大师老兵新传解答棋图,可作对照演示。
这里,我将31楼的棋局与4楼杨老的棋局一并列出作一比照,看杨老是怎样取胜的.
前5回合都一样,第6回合你卒5平6,(惟恐丢卒,)杨是士4进5,(上士捉兵,红车不敢吃卒,正着!)
7回合都兵四平五后,你将4平5(捉兵,差矣),而杨则卒5平6(联卒).
8回合你兵五平六(去士,并无好处),杨则车三进一,控制黑将,
9回合你车三平六(去士,失去时机,应车三平二,控制卒不能7平8),杨则车三平二,关键之着.
这是我的体会.
这里,我将31楼的棋局与4楼杨老的棋局一并列出作一比照,看杨老是怎样取胜的.
前5回合都一样,第6回合你卒5平6,(惟恐丢卒,)杨是士4进5,(上士捉兵,红车不敢吃卒,正着!)
7回合都兵四平五后,你将4平5(捉兵,差矣),而杨则卒5平6(联卒).
8回合你兵五平六(去士,并无好处),杨则车三进一,控制黑将,
9回合你车三平六(去士,失去时机,应车三平二,控制卒不能7平8),杨则车三平二,关键之着.
这是我的体会.
确实有些逻辑混乱,第5、第7回合黑方按照杨老的着法负,你认为是正着,而按照新着法能和则差矣!
明摆着这里不能走卒7平8,即使新手也不会这样走!
请参见4楼棋局,杨大师的着法.
这卒7平8是你在26楼提出来的
我是针对23楼yir123的棋局第5回合车四平五后,卒不应7平6,而应7平8,那就不会演成23楼图示的情况.
"明摆着这里不能走卒7平8,即使新手也不会这样走!"这句话是针对28楼凌的棋局,第5回合车四平五后,这时卒不能平8,不然,明摆着会丢掉5路卒8路卒的.
有不同观点,无论是胜是和都用用图演示吧。
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哈哈,都讨论那么多了。
我觉得杨大师的解法,一点都没错。
现在关键是还有没有比那个解,步骤更省的解法。
现在要明确一点,这局棋讨论的目的:是红方如何取胜,而不是求和.杨大师巳解出取胜着法,(见4楼),很多朋友也举出了另外一些取胜的捷径和方法,但经过讨论,都作了否定.
现在正如40楼负能量所说,杨大师解法是对的,我认为没有其他捷径取胜了.
大家再讨论吧.
哪里有经过讨论否定的着法?不能太武断吧!
我是针对23楼yir123的棋局第5回合车四平五后,卒不应7平6,而应7平8,那就不会演成23楼图示的情况.
"明摆着这里不能走卒7平8,即使新手也不会这样走!"这句话是针对28楼凌的棋局,第5回合车四平五后,这时卒不能平8,不然,明摆着会丢掉5路卒8路卒的.
现在要明确一点,这局棋讨论的目的:是红方如何取胜,而不是求和.杨大师巳解出取胜着法,(见4楼),很多朋友也举出了另外一些取胜的捷径和方法,但经过讨论,都作了否定.
现在正如40楼负能量所说,杨大师解法是对的,我认为没有其他捷径取胜了.
大家再讨论吧.
当然是讨论红方如何取胜,但红方如用底兵法,则黑方可以巧和,而按照我23楼的思路,则红方可以取胜。
39楼着法否定了杨老的胜法,有不同观点请指出红方哪里走得不好。
23楼着法是新的胜法,有不同观点请指出黑方哪里走得不好。
请以动态棋盘演示,否则难以理解。
答44楼:
您23楼着法,我在26楼巳作答复:您第5回合卒7平6是错着,应7平8……请看看帖子。
您认为杨大师的着法不一定能胜,黑方能和,请指出问题出在那里?
答44楼:
您23楼着法,我在26楼巳作答复:您第5回合卒7平6是错着,应7平8……请看看帖子。
您认为杨大师的着法不一定能胜,黑方能和,请指出问题出在那里?
我不知道你为什么不用棋图演示
是下面这个局面应卒7平8?
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哪里有经过讨论否定的着法?不能太武断吧!
请您耐心地看看全部帖子,对于那些捷径取胜的帖子,我都提出意见,予以否定。请您也来否定之否定。
捋一捋。
每个人可以这样啊:
在一个贴子里:
图1、先列出杨老的原着法。
图2、指出认为需要改进的着法(或认为原着法不需要改进)。
图3、小结,并谈谈自己认为容易出现误区的着法。
现在的情况是:不老松认为杨老原着法严谨无误,红黑方都无可更改之处;而yjr123认为扬老的着法第6回合黑方应卒5平6(卒5平6的结果是和棋),认为红改进着法仍可胜,23楼着法是新的胜法,如果认为不成立,可建图指出。
强调一下,这并不是什么捷径取胜法,因为着法总长度并不比杨老的着法短。
下面把胜和着法改进之后合并贴出,有不同观点也请用棋图演示,因为有可能分析的形势牛头不对马嘴。
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此局可以作定论了,经过反复检验,胜法无可挑剔,虽然算不上捷径,但较杨老下底兵的胜法,更明了直观。
此局的确非常微妙,即使高手、大师也不能一时一眼就能正确解答。
感谢yir123的尽心尽力!
请整局演示.
呵呵,不老松现在喜欢不列着法而直接下结论。
杨老此局从原谱上着法分析,黑方主要目标都放在保护士,可能忽略了三卒可以守和车底兵的定式,导致原谱很多地方错过了守和良机。
要使杨老的着法成立,必须否定三卒可以守和车底兵的定式(书上没有看到过,但自己想不出破法,暂称定式)。
请整局演示.
现在来研究39楼凌云子的棋局,前5回合,我无异议,
从6回合起试演:
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现在来研究39楼凌云子的棋局,前5回合,我无异议,
从6回合起,车五平三捉卒软着,应五平二,试演:
第6回合车五平三捉卒是杨官磷特级大师的着法。
不老松楼主认为“从6回合起,车五平三捉卒软着”,看来楼主也开始否认杨的着法。
‘应五平二,试演’的着法是什么?在哪里?
有不同观点,无论是胜是和都用用图演示吧。
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凌云君,对不起,电脑出了点问题,不听指挥,答不对题.请看看59楼对不对?再帖一下.
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yjr123:我是对39楼答的,您53楼巳有定论,证明您不上兵也可更好取胜,而39楼认为杨老上兵胜法不能成立,我试答.何来错得离谱,太伤人了!
yjr123:我是对39楼答的,您53楼巳有定论,证明您不上兵也可更好取胜,而39楼认为杨老上兵胜法不能成立,我试答.何来错得离谱,太伤人了!
很对对不起,由于电脑故障,漏看了62,63,帖子,没有发觉自己的错处,您们的批评是好的,今后还请多多帮助!
总结:
杨官磷特级大师的"老兵新传" !
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23楼yjr123先生的胜法!
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53楼yjr123先生的胜法!
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9]妙着!||||原着法走兵四进一,凌云子发现黑方可以巧和![/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]进底兵给黑方巧和机会。应直接车五平三可胜!||||以下着法为凌云子拟着[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]
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◆龍游淺水遭蝦戲◆
如图,黑方单车士象全再加上一只高卒,可谓进可攻退可守;而红方三只小兵横摆在四、五、六路,则是最容易被车方所破的不良阵式。不过,还好的是,红方有仕相全防卫,后防尚可自保。虽然不久之后双相被歼,但是红兵却借机布置好正确的防守阵容。黑车虽从正、侧面发动攻势,但红方只把小兵左右移动,耍得黑车像没头苍蝇似的团团转,又似蛟龙落在浅水滩被群虾戏耍般,实是莫可奈何。
本局出自已故杨官璘前辈编著的《象棋春秋》,以及《弈苑英华——杨官璘象棋杂谈》二谱。
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[DhtmlXQ_title]◆龙游浅水遭虾戏◆[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment28]|| 以上一段着法,是车卒破双兵仕相全的必经『公式』。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113]||(和棋)[/DhtmlXQ_comment113]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_71]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_76]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_76]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_62]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47]|| 红帅坐正,正着。如改走兵四平五?则负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_84]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43]|| 红出帅,正着。如误走兵五平四?则负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]|| 此时红方虽然失去双相,但是把黑方的高卒变成低卒,从而削弱了黑卒的威力,同时把己方的防守阵容摆好。所以,红方失去双相的损失,是得到补偿的,黑方并没占到便宜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]|| 如图,黑方单车士象全再加上一只高卒,可谓进可攻退可守;而红方三只小兵横摆在四、五、六路,则是最容易被车方所破的不良阵式。不过,还好的是,红方有仕相全防卫,后防尚可自保。虽然不久之后双相被歼,但是红兵却借机布置好正确的防守阵容。黑车虽从正、侧面发动攻势,但红方只把小兵左右移动,耍得黑车像没头苍蝇似的团团转,又似蛟龙落在浅水滩被群虾戏耍般,实是莫可奈何。|||| 本局出自已故杨官璘前辈编著的《象棋春秋》,以及《弈苑英华——杨官璘象棋杂谈》二谱。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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楼主发新贴意义不大,71楼3图的变着麻烦你好好看看。
楼主发新贴意义不大,71楼3图的变着麻烦你好好看看。
凌云君:我真没看您71楼3图,不然我就不会发"另一"帖了,否则我就成抄袭犯了,哈哈.
不过我是这样想的:像我这样"等闲"之辈,也能想出的棋步,为什么赫赫有名大师竟没想到,而要"老兵"作"新传"?真令人费解!
凌云君:我真没看您71楼3图,不然我就不会发"另一"帖了,否则我就成抄袭犯了,哈哈.
不过我是这样想的:像我这样"等闲"之辈,也能想出的棋步,为什么赫赫有名大师竟没想到,而要"老兵"作"新传"?真令人费解!
呵呵,你看贴确实不够仔细,但又喜欢下结论。
你或凌云子的着法还有疑问,我已经将着法贴出了,不知道看过没有?
凌云君:我真没看您71楼3图,不然我就不会发"另一"帖了,否则我就成抄袭犯了,哈哈.
不过我是这样想的:像我这样"等闲"之辈,也能想出的棋步,为什么赫赫有名大师竟没想到,而要"老兵"作"新传"?真令人费解!
看看73楼就知道杨已经晓得三高卒巧和车底兵,
像我这样"等闲"之辈,也能想出的棋步,为什么赫赫有名大师竟没想到,而要"老兵"作"新传"?真令人费解!
另外,某些局面把低兵走成老兵,反而有利,是象棋的一种逆向思维,在当时的时代也是一种突破。
据说现在高中生的物理水平已超过牛顿,但牛顿是物理学的划时代人物。
杨老则是象棋界划时代的人物。
强调一下,这并不是什么捷径取胜法,因为着法总长度并不比杨老的着法短。
下面把胜和着法改进之后合并贴出,有不同观点也请用棋图演示,因为有可能分析的形势牛头不对马嘴。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]守和定式,士已经无用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_12]正中间的连三卒不能守和,应该偏一路连卒才是守和定式。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_12]
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答yjr123君:先生大概健忘了,您在"试试您的残局功力"主题帖53楼帖子中,演出取胜着法,受到肯定与赞扬,但在9月11日不老松的"老兵新传"另一着法主题中,以殊途同归的方式,重现了您的胜法,可是接着在2楼您的帖子,完全否定了这一着法,也就否定了您自己的着法,见下图.如有冒犯,向您赔礼!
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楼上2局,哪个局面相同了?
楼上2局,哪个局面相同了?
您53楼最后的形势不能成立,请看下图:
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是低兵,不是老兵所以能胜。
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下底兵的胜法无法成立!
黑士不动和其吧?
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