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标题: 请教：征西（小退车-老卒左移局） [打印本页]
作者: 笑傲桔枰    时间: 2011-1-1 08:21
标题: 请教：征西（小退车-老卒左移局）
以下局面是“征西”局小退车着法中的“老卒左移局”。在王首成先生的《江湖排局精解》中提出卒4平5后，红方帅四平五逐卒黑胜，不知在红车进底黑将5退1后，红直接走帅四平五，黑方可还有其它手段？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999958994799579969999999999999999999429999997699409999999939[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]100125[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_title]征西（小退车-老卒左移局） [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]17[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_type]排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]18[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]1[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]3949584849596960761648585969575042415848[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 笑傲桔枰    时间: 2011-1-1 09:14
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999958994799579969999999999999999999429999997699409999999939[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]100125[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_title]征西（小退车-老卒左移局） [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]17[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_type]排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]18[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]1[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]394958484959696076164858596957504241584816184849404750574748574741516068695949391816393848496858[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-1-2 14:00
不一定正確,大家研究看看 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999958994799579969999999999999999999429999997699409999999939[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]100125[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_title]征西（小退车-老卒左移局） [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]17[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_type]排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]18[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]1[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]39495848495969607616485859695750424158484047503047423033164648384272606546483837484965354946353672793334695934335949373846483837493933343929343379393639484737384749[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_1]16184849404750574748574741516068695949391816393848496858[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_2]48384737[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3]5057164648584749[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]16466040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_7]606872786828494737387828[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_7][DhtmlXQ_move_9_28_6]37387279[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_28_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_8]606546483837484965354946353672763676467630337646[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_8][DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_5]303346483837484937387279[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]30321646483842723231414031304041604046264050262838372829505872785818292737387818[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_10]3639484937387939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_11]3334393634364849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_12]656872786828494737387828[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_12] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-11 12:50
不一定正確,大家研究看看[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]征西（小退车-老卒左移局） [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]5799479958999999996999999999999976999999429999999940993999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]39495848495969607616485859695848[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]5750424158484047503047423033164648384272606546483837484965354946353672793334695934335949373846483837493933343929343379393639484737384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_38_2]3334393634364849[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_38_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_34_3]3639484937387939[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_34_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_4]656872786828494737387828[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_14_5]30321646483842723231414031304041604046264050262838372829505872785818292737387818[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_14_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_6]16466040467630337646[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_12_7]5057164648584749[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_12_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_11_8]16184849404750574748574741516068695949391816393848496858[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_11_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2014-4-12 17:01
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]5799479958999999996999999999999976999999429999999940993999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]征西（小退车-老卒左移局） [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]3949584849596960761648585969584816184849181757874047876769794948[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]5750424158484047503047423033164648384272606546483837484965354946353672793334695934335949373846483837493933343929343379393639484737384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_38_2]3334393634364849[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_38_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_34_3]3639484937387939[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_34_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_4]656872786828494737387828[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_14_5]30321646483842723231414031304041604046264050262838372829505872785818292737387818[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_14_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_6]16466040467630337646[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_12_7]5057164648584749[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_12_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_11_8]16184849404750574748574741516068695949391816393848496858[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_11_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_9]606342326343171357531333494833384849383753574047437337394948393848494745575545445554444554554544737438364948364648583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_9][DhtmlXQ_comment12]可能這樣較頑強[/DhtmlXQ_comment12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_10]423247691747495947468757[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_10][DhtmlXQ_comment16]黑難勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment16] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2014-4-12 17:09
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]5799479958999999996999999999999976999999429999999940993999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]征西（小退车-老卒左移局） [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]39495848495969607616485859695848161848491817578717194948191848491858[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]5750424158484047503047423033164648384272606546483837484965354946353672793334695934335949373846483837493933343929343379393639484737384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_38_2]3334393634364849[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_38_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_34_3]3639484937387939[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_34_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_4]656872786828494737387828[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_14_5]30321646483842723231414031304041604046264050262838372829505872785818292737387818[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_14_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_6]16466040467630337646[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_12_7]5057164648584749[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_12_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_11_8]16184849404750574748574741516068695949391816393848496858[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_11_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_9]606342326343171357531333494833384849383753574047437337394948393848494745575545445554444554554544737438364948364648583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment12]可能這樣較頑強[/DhtmlXQ_comment12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_11]4047876769794948[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_11][DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_10]423247691747495947468757[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_16]黑難勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]這樣不知如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2014-4-12 19:05
先研究到這裡 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]5799479958999999996999999999999976999999429999999940993999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]征西（小退车-老卒左移局） [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]39495848495969607616485859695848161848491817606642326646171657561636494836384849383756574047576737394948393848494748463669796747488836567969565988804740323140413132414032314041313241403231404131324143803043403231595738584047583847403858404758384740[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]5750424158484047503047423033164648384272606546483837484965354946353672793334695934335949373846483837493933343929343379393639484737384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_38_2]3334393634364849[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_38_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_34_3]3639484937387939[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_34_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_4]656872786828494737387828[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_14_5]30321646483842723231414031304041604046264050262838372829505872785818292737387818[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_14_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_6]16466040467630337646[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_12_7]5057164648584749[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_12_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_11_8]16184849404750574748574741516068695949391816393848496858[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_11_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_13]57871719494819184849185849396959878958488959484760684030595047376838375738485750[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_13][DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_9]6063423263431713575313334948333848493837535740475767[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_13_13_11]4047876769794948[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_13_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_13_13_10]423247691747495947468757[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_13_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_16]黑難勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]這樣不知如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_31]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_31][DhtmlXQ_comment24_41]應黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_24_24]437337394948393848494745575545445554444554554544737438364948364648583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_24_24][DhtmlXQ_move_9_24_12]434637394948393848494748574748784656787956597959[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_24_12][DhtmlXQ_comment12_35]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_35] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_22]467637394948393848494745575545445554444354534344534344847686847486767470434070714042323142437170434131324140323140413132414032314070385876565856494856464858314170504649[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_22][DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_14]575337385357474857474878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_14][DhtmlXQ_comment15_55]仍黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_47] [DhtmlXQ_move_16_44_17]4440323176703858[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_44_17][DhtmlXQ_comment17_47]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_55]紅須變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_55][DhtmlXQ_comment22_65]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_65] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_41]應黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_59]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_61]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_61] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_44_15]403071313040318176863858403081318656585630405658[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_44_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_42_16]434470307670385870505850[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_42_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_36_19]767738364948364648583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_36_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_46_18]424131324171385876565856494856464858324271514649[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_46_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_56_20]7677385877575857[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_56_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_56_21]404370307670385870505850[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_56_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_23]475749483738484738364757364667693242696242416252[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_23][DhtmlXQ_comment24]較頑強\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment24][DhtmlXQ_comment30]![/DhtmlXQ_comment30] [DhtmlXQ_comment47]紅須變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment47] [DhtmlXQ_comment36]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment36][DhtmlXQ_comment62]和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment62] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2014-4-13 01:56
修正 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]5799479958999999996999999999999976999999429999999940993999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]征西（小退车-老卒左移局） [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]3949584849596960761648585969584816184849181760664232664617165756163649483638484938375657404757673739494839384849474846366979365648885659[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]5750424158484047503047423033164648384272606546483837484965354946353672793334695934335949373846483837493933343929343379393639484737384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_38_2]3334393634364849[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_38_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_34_3]3639484937387939[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_34_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_4]656872786828494737387828[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_14_5]30321646483842723231414031304041604046264050262838372829505872785818292737387818[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_14_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_6]16466040467630337646[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_12_7]5057164648584749[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_12_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_11_8]16184849404750574748574741516068695949391816393848496858[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_11_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_13]57871719494819184849185849396959878958488959484760684030595047376838375738485750[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_13_13_11]4047876769794948[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_13_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_13_13_10]423247691747495947468757[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_13_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_16]黑難勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]這樣不知如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_31]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_31] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_22]4676373949483938484947455755454455544443545343445343448476868474867674704340707140423231424371704341313241403231404131324140323140437030765630705659[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_22] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_14]575337385357474857474878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_55]仍黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_47]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_47] [DhtmlXQ_move_16_44_9]7670385870505850[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_44_9][DhtmlXQ_move_16_44_17]4440323176703858[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_44_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_47]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_55]紅須變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_65]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_65] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_41]應黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_59]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_61]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_61] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_44_15]403071313040318176863858403081318656585630405658[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_44_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_42_16]434470307656[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_42_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_36_19]767738364948364648583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_36_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_46_18]424131324171385876565856494856464858324271514649[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_46_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_56_21]4070385876565856494856464858314170504649[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_56_21][DhtmlXQ_move_22_56_20]7677385877575857[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_56_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_23]475749483738484738364757364667693242696242416252[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment24]較頑強\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment24] [DhtmlXQ_comment30]![/DhtmlXQ_comment30] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_39]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_25]67474888365688895659383949488959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_25][DhtmlXQ_comment32]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment32] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_58]這樣頑強[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_58][DhtmlXQ_move_22_58_26]7670385870505850[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_58_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_59_27]38584346[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_59_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_44]這樣頑強[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_44] [DhtmlXQ_move_22_60_12]5676[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_60_12][DhtmlXQ_comment18_48]\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_48] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: zhaodi    时间: 2014-4-13 10:15
回复1楼、2楼、3楼，此三楼棋图起始一样，变化有可研讨之处。我认为有简单着法可黑胜定。
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999958994799579969999999999999999999429999997699409999999939[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11]简简单单的打掉红炮，[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]续走如下[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]红丢相，无解。黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]红只有吃掉黑炮。||至此，可点击“棋谱搜索”中的“搜索当前残局解法”，在PAI残局库中找到解法，黑胜定。||||为此，第5回合红应车四退一将军一步。但王兄《江湖排局精解》第248页给出的着法还是黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2014-4-13 11:08
此贴很有探讨价值，因王首成兄的《江湖排局精解》中，此变认为是和棋，到底是黑胜还是和棋，请大家再研究。
4楼沉默兄贴出的第四回合帅四平五变，5、6、7、8楼陈兄给出了拆解着法，应是黑胜无疑。下面将我的研究着法贴出请指正。
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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]防炮5平7[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_22][DhtmlXQ_comment9_26]想退炮打卒，为时已晚。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_26][DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_29][DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]简洁胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_21][DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]败[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_9]578717194948191848491858493969598789404760674707897907096787594979490949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_9][DhtmlXQ_comment47]黑海底捞月胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment47][DhtmlXQ_comment8]此变黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]败||同理，炮三退几，黑方都可用以下法获胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-13 19:38
多谢两位大师指点
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2014-4-14 10:56
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-14 14:43
[/quote] 这样黑胜定
作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-14 19:31
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这个时候红的动哪个比较好呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-15 00:31
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[DhtmlXQ_move_3_6_6]78687678[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_6_6]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_3_4_8]4765364648584666[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_4_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_9]4232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]据说本图是著名象棋大师刘文哲在研讨本局时演变而成的，是本局最高深的一种变化。《精解》中介绍了将5平4，车4平7，炮5平2的走法，结论都是和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_12]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_7]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2014-4-16 13:43
沉默 发表于 2014-4-14 14:43
这样黑胜定

那麼黑方要如何勝呢?
作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-16 17:04
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]改捉卒可否[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]也很複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_9]紅減輕威脅[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_8]此变黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_12]败||同理，炮三退几，黑方都可用以下法获胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]黑海底捞月胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_12]败[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]简洁胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]防炮5平7[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_26]想退炮打卒，为时已晚。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_29]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_29]
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-18 02:00
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]红可以这样走[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_5]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_12]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_12]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-19 01:24
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]据说本图是著名象棋大师刘文哲在研讨本局时演变而成的，是本局最高深的一种变化。《精解》中介绍了将5平4，车4平7，炮5平2的走法，结论都是和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]红可以这样走[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_7]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_5]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_12]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_12]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2014-4-19 10:39
回复第18楼、19楼，着法不对，如第4回合红按18、19楼的变化走炮二平三，黑胜。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]据说本图是著名象棋大师刘文哲在研讨本局时演变而成的，是本局最高深的一种变化。《精解》中介绍了将5平4，车4平7，炮5平2的走法，结论都是和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]红可以这样走[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_7]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_5]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_12]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_12]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-20 20:02
zhaodi的走法黑胜，第3回合走炮二平三呢？
作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-21 20:24
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]据说本图是著名象棋大师刘文哲在研讨本局时演变而成的，是本局最高深的一种变化。《精解》中介绍了将5平4，车4平7，炮5平2的走法，结论都是和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]红可以这样走[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_33][/DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22][/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_5]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-23 02:16
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]据说本图是著名象棋大师刘文哲在研讨本局时演变而成的，是本局最高深的一种变化。《精解》中介绍了将5平4，车4平7，炮5平2的走法，结论都是和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]以下是象棋旋风走法，似乎黑有胜机[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]红可以这样走[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_5]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-28 00:34
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-28 01:37
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[DhtmlXQ_comment37]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-4-28 10:39
第9、10回合红车是长拦，为允许着法，不需要变着。
作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-28 12:50
有个暗根，不算长捉
作者: 沉默    时间: 2014-4-28 12:54
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11]这样算长打吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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