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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-5 23:22
标题: 關於小潼關
此局在智弈網我與邢春波兄大征西兄等人研討認為黑勝 不知為何華工的小潼關這個帖子我進不去了
作者: 667    时间: 2011-5-6 01:11
http://www.ok667.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=20770
作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-6 09:06
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-6 10:02
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-6 10:14
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-6 10:16
黑有雙士必勝,如果单士紅可和
作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-6 10:24
呵呵 你也看到了这招 后面红的单炮不知能不能守和了。以前看了那春波关于说明单炮守不和的帖子,不过觉得红炮没有发挥好
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-6 10:33
這已是實用殘局的例勝局面了
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-6 10:52
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-6 11:08
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-6 11:15
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-6 11:41
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2011-5-6 12:33
黑有雙士必勝,如果单士紅可和
聨吟客 发表于 2011-5-6 10:16



好像不见得

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-6 13:56
我也想到有個單雙步的問題,這樣黑好像也難勝?
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-6 14:27
之前我認為黑勝可能錯誤,此局可能仍可和,  再看看黑有何手段吧
作者: 承云医疾    时间: 2011-5-6 16:37
对!存在单双步问题!(《象棋实用残局手册》江苏科技版,沈正富著,书中结论错!)印象中《象棋》杂志,裘望禹就此问题写过文章予以纠正(在他的排局“引蛇出洞”发表之后)
作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-6 18:00
14楼第回合炮一平二也能和,第三回合改走炮三退七,黑的根本赢不到。
作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-6 18:11
小潼关第五回合兵五进一以后,黑的是否可以考虑将5进1保象。刚才拟了几种走法,感觉黑的要取胜还是有希望的。
作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-7 15:49
此局扑朔迷离的,胜和问题还是很难确定。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-7 16:05
回复 18# 沉默

感覺紅還能抗衡

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-7 16:57
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-7 16:59
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2011-5-7 17:07 编辑

修正20樓的一個變化,是說這樣紅不能打象
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-7 17:04
回复 22# 聨吟客

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-7 17:58
先走象會如何?
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-7 18:03
回复 24# 聨吟客

這樣紅也能守
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-7 21:49
再研究黑先平將,這樣黑是否能勝?
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-7 21:55
回复 26# 聨吟客

有錯誤,應該仍和局
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-7 22:00
是說這樣仍和局
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-7 23:51
越看越乱了,研究此局头痛啊   
作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-8 16:29
28楼第6回合.炮3平6 ;7帅四平五,卒7平6;8兵五进一,炮6平5  黑好像能赢。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 00:28
回复 17# 沉默

這樣紅方長打
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 00:31
回复 31# 聨吟客


    是說17樓所說,紅方會走成長打不能和
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 00:34
回复 32# 聨吟客


   這樣也是一樣紅方長打(除非亞洲規則才能判和)
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 01:00
回复 30# 沉默

還沒找到黑勝的方法?
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-9 11:20
33楼第八回合为什么不走炮四平一呢?炮平二平三都是要杀棋,构成一打一要杀棋,炮四平一既不打也不杀算走闲棋的吧,没违反哪条棋规吧
作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-9 12:03
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 16:33
回复 35# 沉默


   是的,我後來也想到炮四平一黑難勝
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 16:36
回复 36# 沉默


    這樣呢
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 16:41
又這樣呢
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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]3020444331304645[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 16:43
回复 39# 聨吟客

是說這樣呢

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[DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_7]3632524132303130[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 16:48
回复 40# 聨吟客


    和局?
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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_4_10_5]35452131444340304546413243333133[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_10_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 16:52
回复 42# 聨吟客
這樣黑可勝
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 16:55
回复 41# 聨吟客

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
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    這樣也黑勝
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 16:58
回复 44# 聨吟客

這樣也黑勝

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 17:02
這樣也黑勝
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_9]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 17:29
喔37樓還是能和, 此局真是複雜
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 17:37
回复 46# 聨吟客


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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 17:40
還有這樣能和否?
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 17:41
回复 49# 聨吟客


    是說這樣
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-9 17:44
回复 49# 聨吟客

黑勝
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-9 19:11
是的,上面这个局面黑胜定。 将5平4红打象才是正着,红的很好走。
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2011-5-9 20:46
回复 27# 聨吟客
黑平将,红进炮打象局。
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-9 22:15
第六回合应直推中兵,红兵刚好能过河,请参照37楼着法。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-10 08:35
再研究先走象的變化可能黑勝
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-10 08:45
先走象避免了紅炮打象的變化,然後再將5平4,少了炮打象的變化,根據我們之前的 研究黑好像可勝?
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-10 09:24
回复 55# 聨吟客


我都忘了    這個以前我研究過好像仍可和,由於兵卒可長捉子,所以一將一用兵捉士不算長打,應可判和
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_24]36323141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_24]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_26]46363141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_26]
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-10 17:03
回复 57# 聨吟客


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[DhtmlXQ_title]第20回合局面[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]好像黑的还能赢。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]不知行得通没有[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]黑的慢慢调整阵型好像能赢。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]红兵到底二线,黑的可以先打兵。就算没有象走闲棋黑的也能把兵打掉,几个月前研究过这种局面了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment58]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-10 17:07
士5进4再将5进1的走法也可以走到上面这个局面。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-10 20:04
嗯,這樣也黑勝
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999939999999994699439999999999996432315299999920994899999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]第20回合局面[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]好像黑的还能赢。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]不知行得通没有[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]黑的慢慢调整阵型好像能赢。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]红兵到底二线,黑的可以先打兵。就算没有象走闲棋黑的也能把兵打掉,几个月前研究过这种局面了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-10 20:11
回复 60# 聨吟客

修正一下這樣較精確  

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[DhtmlXQ_title]第20回合局面[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]好像黑的还能赢。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]不知行得通没有[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]黑的慢慢调整阵型好像能赢。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]红兵到底二线,黑的可以先打兵。就算没有象走闲棋黑的也能把兵打掉,几个月前研究过这种局面了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-10 20:44
如果这路变化黑胜的话,此局黑棋还有希望。不过胜机很微妙,不深入研究很难入局的。
作者: 沉默    时间: 2011-5-11 22:07
再找找红的还有没有其他走法啊
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-22 08:21
這樣也黑勝
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999939999999994699439999999999996432315299999920994899999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]好像黑的还能赢。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]不知行得通没有[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]黑的慢慢调整阵型好像能赢。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]红兵到底二线,黑的可以先打兵。就算没有象走闲棋黑的也能把兵打掉,几个月前研究过这种局面了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_4]2030232231413272414272735041222141322131[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_4]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-5-22 22:18
回复 64# 聨吟客

修正變著中的這個局面也黑勝
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[DhtmlXQ_title]第20回合局面[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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作者: 沉默    时间: 2013-12-9 17:01
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
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[DhtmlXQ_black]棋手[/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam]
[DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]0599999959999999991599469999999999314241405260999970994868999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment27]![/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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深入研究发现黑难胜
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-12-9 18:15
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[DhtmlXQ_date]2013.12.09[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_red]棋手[/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_black]棋手[/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]050031100010422015456042102070204548426446454030454430314838205059496858443441323433504038366442493958483634406034146030144442643343302043335241[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]![/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1]426434444030334330704333[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-12-9 18:42
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]0599999959999999991599469999999999314241405260999970994868999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]通关[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2013.12.09[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_red]棋手[/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_black]棋手[/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]050031100010422015456042102070204548426446454030454430314838205059496858443441323433504038366442493958483634406034146030144442643343302043332030334364824445302043335241[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]![/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_1]6442433342643343648244453020433352414535202435344152347424347471[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_1][DhtmlXQ_comment38]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment38][DhtmlXQ_comment42]參考61樓[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
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作者: ★星海★    时间: 2013-12-9 19:25
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]0599999959999999991599469999999999314241405260999970994868999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]通关[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2013.12.09[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_red]棋手[/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_black]棋手[/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]0500311000104220154560421020702045484264464540304544303148382050594968584434413234335040383664424939584836344060341460301444426433433020433320303343648244453020433352414535202435344150347450417434415034745041[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]![/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_1]6442433342643343648244453020433352414535202435344152347424347471[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]參考61樓[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_48_2]24347471[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_48_2][DhtmlXQ_comment52]红方违例,应变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
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作者: ★星海★    时间: 2013-12-9 19:28
亚规一杀一捉能不能和?
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-12-9 19:57
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[DhtmlXQ_date]2013.12.09[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_red]棋手[/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_black]棋手[/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment27]![/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment38]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]參考61樓[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_48_2]24347471[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_48_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_52_3]2434747182647181[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_52_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_55][DhtmlXQ_comment52]兵捉子如果算閑著,應和,但不知大陸規則怎麼判\u003F(亞洲規則殺算閑著判和沒問題)[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
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作者: ★星海★    时间: 2013-12-9 20:00
大陆棋规就是复杂,兵卒将帅捉子,可打可闲。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-12-9 20:14
還有這種情況
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[DhtmlXQ_red]棋手[/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_black]棋手[/DhtmlXQ_black]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment38]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]參考61樓[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]兵捉子如果算閑著,應和,但不知大陸規則怎麼判\u003F(亞洲規則殺算閑著判和沒問題)[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_4]52414535202435344150347450417434415034745041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_4][DhtmlXQ_comment50]這樣如何判[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
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作者: 古婺    时间: 2013-12-10 08:38
这个4路黑马哪位兄弟加上去的? 我原局是没有的,这样黑首着有不送马的变化,虽然红优,变化也很复杂,着法有点散乱了。我原局如下,着法可能有问题,我记得好象鸿弈网好象有有讨论是黑胜。联兄加油!  希望有个准确完善的着法。


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[DhtmlXQ_comment15]和第5回和配合,红帅以最快速度离开中线,求和的关键,否则,红炮兵帅在中线,很容易被黑攻击。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]红失兵负定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_49]红比较顽强的防守,但黑有象,最终还是输棋。黑如果没有象,红可以和。 这两个结论可参考《炮卒专集》。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_84]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]亦黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_5]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_5]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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作者: ★星海★    时间: 2013-12-10 09:14
前面还没有有马,66楼加上去的。
作者: 沉默    时间: 2013-12-10 16:41
古婺 发表于 2013-12-10 08:38
这个4路黑马哪位兄弟加上去的? 我原局是没有的,这样黑首着有不送马的变化,虽然红优,变化也很复杂, ...

4路黑马是我乱加上去的,忽悠一些新手
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-12-10 19:42
71與73樓的規則問題要弄清楚,如果紅方為允許走法則和局,反之黑勝74樓4回合黑走象也可形成類似局面,是否有黑馬應該差別不大
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-12-10 19:54
古婺 发表于 2013-12-10 08:38
这个4路黑马哪位兄弟加上去的? 我原局是没有的,这样黑首着有不送马的变化,虽然红优,变化也很复杂, ...

鴻弈網討論的黑勝走法是如何呢?有無牽涉到規則問題?可否提供研究?
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2023-10-3 09:24
以前大家的討論  頂上來  
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2023-10-4 06:37
余老的黑勝走法  
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[DhtmlXQ_move_6_27_76]453550403545415045434046[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_27_76]
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[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]1526[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]329[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]15224570[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]古婺[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]古婺[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]和第5回和配合,红帅以最快速度离开中线,求和的关键,否则,红炮兵帅在中线,很容易被黑攻击。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]红失兵负定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_49]红比较顽强的防守,但黑有象,最终还是输棋。黑如果没有象,红可以和。 这两个结论可参考《炮卒专集》。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_84]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]亦黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_5]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_34]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_34]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]和?[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_39]和?[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_26]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_68]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]和?[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_47]红胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_13]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_11]!!![/DhtmlXQ_comment30_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_13]||![/DhtmlXQ_comment18_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_17]||![/DhtmlXQ_comment18_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_19]![/DhtmlXQ_comment30_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_35]||![/DhtmlXQ_comment30_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_42]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_16]黑劣红幸和![/DhtmlXQ_comment14_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]![/DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]等一步为好![/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_23]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]红幸和[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_24]黑求变[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_25]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_14]红幸和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_11]红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_22]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_10]红幸和![/DhtmlXQ_comment30_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_21]炮守四路和[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_31]兵随时准备换士,和定[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_23]也和[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_31]和定[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_23]这局面红应该能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_19]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]也和[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_36]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_10]正确![/DhtmlXQ_comment6_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_27]炮打士则输[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_21]红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_25]以兵换士都能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_49]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_28]也和[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_51]打死兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_42]打死兵胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]落底士则和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_44]若退将则红炮打士和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_70]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_50]下士则和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_32]防止帅占中后可平四路而和![/DhtmlXQ_comment11_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_30]这个局面很有意思,黑将坐中再进炮红底线是正确的进攻手段,否则红可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_12]黑也能胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_17]![/DhtmlXQ_comment54_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_11]走炮五进二也能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_14]由于低帅被卒控制,黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]引诱红炮打象!同时方便黑炮进攻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_19]连续2步平帅准备脱离黑卒控制,使得红炮有捉双手段,唯一守和机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_32]若不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_47]若不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_63]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_12]黑也可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]可和![/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_17]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_43]若不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_19]红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_61]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_47]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_25]!唯一这步能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_30]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_34]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_35]黑劣红幸和[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_17]!!!求和要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_19]进入这个局面后双方争斗的很精彩,及时逃离险地非常重要。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_25]![/DhtmlXQ_comment65_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_27]红炮右移防止黑将坐中,求和要着![/DhtmlXQ_comment65_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_37]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_35]及时防黑上6路士[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_48]得炮黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_35]劣![/DhtmlXQ_comment66_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_19]误着!黑可胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment67_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_28]准备兑炮胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_36]得跑黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_15]黑胜!续走如下:[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_55]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_21]也和,续走如下:[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_11]!其他走法红都要输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_15]!其他走法红都要输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_17]!其他走法红都要输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_19]!其他走法红都要输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_25]和定[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_13]或兵五进一也可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_15]否则黑炮3平5打死红兵胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_26]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_19]红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_21]进兵则负[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_31]![/DhtmlXQ_comment69_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_35]!炮平八则负[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_37]直接退炮则负![/DhtmlXQ_comment71_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_81]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_45]![/DhtmlXQ_comment69_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_49]!!![/DhtmlXQ_comment69_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_51]红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_53]不变和[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_53]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]占4路准备上将,既防止红帅左移,又准备快速炮平6路掩护黑卒靠拢,也是黑方积极组织进攻的一种手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]序战结束,黑分三种主要变化,各有千秋:[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_8]先飞象保留优势实力,红小心应付才能守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_32]准备兑炮胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]这路最初流传为和棋,实际黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_10]错误的进攻方式,最初流传的和法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_11]秘招,能和![/DhtmlXQ_comment28_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_66]![/DhtmlXQ_comment75_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_70]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_32]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_36]也黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_56]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_11]红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment34_24]缓着,错失胜机![/DhtmlXQ_comment34_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]若双方不变,则和||||yjr123:黑方可变着取胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
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