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标题: 谢宁云 拟局 刮骨疗毒 QQ：252841212 [打印本页]
作者: 谢宁云    时间: 2011-7-15 22:20
标题: 谢宁云 拟局 刮骨疗毒 QQ：252841212
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-7-16 01:12
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-7-16 01:18
趙兄(謝兄)好!呵呵呵,我已把以前我改的那局(紅勝)投稿百24,如果有幸入選可以你我二人合擬的名義刊出
作者: zhiqihuang    时间: 2011-7-16 01:57
首着相七进九是红胜。
作者: zhiqihuang    时间: 2011-7-16 01:58
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作者: zhiqihuang    时间: 2011-7-16 02:00
这局的帽子很好，尝试修改和局： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]4838293759994757583949062642669941999999509999059936561783999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_date]2011-7-15[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place]法国巴黎[/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_owner]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_title]zqhuang修改 刮骨疗毒 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]290741420605172739092728090842526665283848383638493950403949403049393040394940304939[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]42411718060583840504848504148575142475762434766634336667333267573231575859583635414050513141515247253555[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_2]390917273819273706055658492936560725586859495646[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]83845949565808585257374838284857[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_22_4]5272472572425848[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_22_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_5]5242072542725949565808587277656430405765[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_9_6]59584252[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_9_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_11_7]4818374759494757493942471814504039384746141758781737575838397879[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_11_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]原局谢宁云作，无1路黑马，则首着相七进九红大优胜定。数着后即十分明显黑无力继续。着法无甚意趣。倒是首着兵五进一的陷阱设置得十分巧妙。||||增添黑马的修改方案保留了原局的江湖陷阱，但红如不掉陷阱走出正着的话，黑方后面还有办法纠缠寻找机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment21]双方不变和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_25]黑炮死，红多子优势[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]红优势[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_14]黑稍优势[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]这样红受到猛攻[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]红不敢吃卒，两面受攻，窘迫[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_3]这一变还没有研究透彻，目前认为黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]简明处理方式。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 谢宁云    时间: 2011-7-17 16:45
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作者: 谢宁云    时间: 2011-7-17 16:59
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-7-17 17:17
炮兵圍城 到百24投稿區去看就知了, 力挽狂瀾是您的舊局,在智弈網排局研究版15頁
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-7-17 17:23
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作者: 谢宁云    时间: 2011-7-17 17:24
zhiqihuang 你好，此局我一直想用双卒双炮对红方16子（红14子），“蚯蚓降龙”中出现五、六步不将一军，我以想创作出一局，一个诱人入彀的假象，有着诱惑力较强的“帽子”，粗看图势，似乎先走一方只要几步棋就能构成杀局或者多子而获胜，这些似乎认定必胜的着法，其实正是诈之所在，是假象，是迷雾，是陷阱；其实这恰恰是劣着，是败局之源，对方却隐伏着起死回生、解杀还杀的妙手，往往在“帽子”阶段很快就会招致败局。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2011-7-17 17:35
炮兵圍城也是當時我在智弈網就改了的,只是現在才重新命名
作者: zhiqihuang    时间: 2011-7-17 17:56
回复 7# 谢宁云


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作者: zhiqihuang    时间: 2011-7-17 18:08
回复 11# 谢宁云

你好，如果要限子为双炮双卒，个人认为这局就没什么修改空间了，因为缺少牵制黑方进卒的机制：不是红快一步就是黑快一步，和蚯蚓降龙的互相牵制有本质区别。当然只是我经验之谈，事无绝对，仍期待您的成功之作。
作者: 谢宁云    时间: 2011-7-17 18:09
回复 13# zhiqihuang 炮六平九比平八妙！！
作者: 谢宁云    时间: 2011-7-17 18:58
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作者: 谢宁云    时间: 2011-7-17 21:22
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