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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-19 12:05
标题: 请各位棋友帮忙把关
这是改图后，11回合胜，我认为9回合胜。对吗？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9972299959996999994758349999999919992030413224997999999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]091220[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第005局 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]49[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]34442042445442647253414053614041614241425848425254535251535251505251[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: yanyun    时间: 2012-10-19 12:21
9回合胜。正确。
作者: 外星人乔丹    时间: 2012-10-19 12:46
钟老师：是局9步胜应该是正确的。
作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-19 14:17
原图可以6回合胜，这是我改图后，着法合理否？这局杀法不错，望棋友给出更加合理着法，但要体现三进兵。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999879937999999998049349999999953999999329999999999990399999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]091220[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第034局 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]49[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]3747535947485979805032313433030450547978545878794969040548497978696578795859797559690515696675798769797465357434333231303231[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 外星人乔丹    时间: 2012-10-19 15:37
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-19 14:17
原图可以6回合胜，这是我改图后，着法合理否？这局杀法不错，望棋友给出更加合理着法，但要体现三进兵。

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钟老师：是局改得好，着法合理，符合“胜方速胜，黑方迟负”原则，又体现了三进兵。
作者: 一二三加油    时间: 2012-10-19 16:28
见周平先生称呼钟老师，应该是钟志康老师吧，问候一下钟老师好，我们的友谊从1986年开始，记得那时您就接触电脑了。
作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-19 18:07
见周平先生称呼钟老师，应该是钟志康老师吧，问候一下钟老师好，我们的友谊从1986年开始，记得那时您就接触 ...[/quote] 任云棋友：你好！ 那时接触的大型计算机，对于现在计算机也就是电脑不如年轻人，只能可以对付上上网。现在帮出版社校校稿子。你的大作很有分量。祝你一切都好！
作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-19 21:35
在孙先生的改图基础上再改图，保持原作者的杀法思路。对吗？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9924999937999999990699213141999900996499509999991299994509699999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]091220[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第045局 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]49[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]2412000612244546313046473738474838390600243264423220[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-19 21:44
为保持着法唯一性，在孙先生的改图上再加一子。[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9944079949999999994199319999999928999999409999999999995556376799[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]091220[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第109局 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]49[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]445240504181374731304748495948585949284849394841304041405271[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-20 10:07
孙先生要求保持11回合胜，我再修改图如下可保持11回合胜。对吗？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9972299959996999994758349999999919822030413224997968999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]091220[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第005局 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]49[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]344420427260414060524041445442645244244244234224234241425848425254535251535251505251[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-20 11:23
[/quote] 谢谢！要保持三进兵
作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-20 11:41
孙先生：72局已改 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8599079939994799699999709999999951999941409999995899992399999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]091220[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第072局 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]49[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]696051508515585939384130151050601030404170605949605041513040232450604909384809074729[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ] 孙先生：187局已改 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999948999999992367229999999987999932315299999978998699999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]091220[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第187局 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]49[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]222131302120303167618737237386767383768661717888836337776333[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-20 16:33
孙先生：175局改图及着法结果是否这样？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9920299948999999999999506272339980999999319999990109996517679999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]091220[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第175局 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]49[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]33323130200180884847675747578881012281212907655562525556575809085242212232221718585956574241575859495848495908095040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ] 212局这样走着法对吗？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9921994849999925999999005166999930319999329999999999992363999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]091220[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第212局 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]49[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]25443242495930604423423223153152211332311523313051415233231133211321[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]6020211320231523311223443231445231305141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2]313223443231445231305141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2] [/DhtmlXQ] 孙立修改图，更美观，合理。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9921994849999925999999519999999930312099329999999999992363999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]091220[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第212局 孙立修改图[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]49[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]25443242495930604423423223153152211332311523313051415233231133211321[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]313223443231445231305141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-21 14:36
本帖最后由 zzk132 于 2012-10-22 20:42 编辑

189局修改后的图和着法
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-21 15:01
本帖最后由 zzk132 于 2012-10-22 20:51 编辑

86局修改图、着法有问题吗？
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86局这种修改方案行吗？
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-22 21:06
本帖最后由 zzk132 于 2012-10-22 21:41 编辑

48局图对，第二种着法修改。
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38局修改方案，行吗？
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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-22 23:56
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2012-10-22 23:58 编辑
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-20 10:07
孙先生要求保持11回合胜，我再修改图如下可保持11回合胜。对吗？


11回合取胜虽正确。但着法不唯一还有其他方法亦11回胜！

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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-23 00:04
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2012-10-23 00:19 编辑

这样着法唯一供参考！
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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-23 00:42
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-19 14:17
原图可以6回合胜，这是我改图后，着法合理否？这局杀法不错，望棋友给出更加合理着法，但要体现三进兵。

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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-23 00:53
将1路卒前移一位，是否可和！
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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-23 12:25
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作者: 外星人乔丹    时间: 2012-10-23 12:57
高原红 发表于 2012-10-23 00:53
将1路卒前移一位，是否可和！

这种和法感觉不是太好，先是一将一捉，后几回合一将一跟。这样还不如胜局爽快。这是我的拙见，不一定正确。提请西大侠、巴山侠考虑。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-23 13:22
這樣還是一將一捉
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 13:34
聨吟客 发表于 2012-10-23 13:22
這樣還是一將一捉

这是棋规问题，如须要黑方变着，那此局是原作者所要求。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-23 13:53
黑方需變著,這樣更好些 ,大家參考看看
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-23 14:18
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 14:37
谢谢方权友的提示，再修改图成为13回合胜，也体现“三进兵”。
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 14:49
回复26楼，我认为13回红长杀，黑车也只能这样走不能走其它着法，要吗等死。红改炮进一不是直接杀，还得用兵去取胜，这是以后的事，不知对吗？
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2012-10-23 15:14
红方炮四进一是杀，炮四退一应将不是杀，因为炮三平六的杀是原本就存在的，和炮四退一没有关系。所以黑方必须变着！



作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 15:17
49局修改方案，行吗？
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 15:57
本帖最后由 zzk132 于 2012-10-24 15:06 编辑

117局只有一种着法。另外一种着法请看注解变化
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 17:00
落实一下125局是这样吗？
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 17:18
落实一下第141局8路卒位置？
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 17:25
145局我改了对头兵和炮的位置，对吗？
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 17:37
153局不需要加象，我将原着法先后次序调整可行吗？
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2012-10-23 18:30
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作者: rixiao123    时间: 2012-10-23 19:37
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-23 17:25
145局我改了对头兵和炮的位置，对吗？

第16着是将6平5，如改走士5进6吃掉红兵，则如何？
作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 20:09
rixiao123 发表于 2012-10-23 19:37
第16着是将6平5，如改走士5进6吃掉红兵，则如何？

第16着是将6平5，如改走士5进6吃掉红兵，红可直接退炮打死黑3路卒成为炮兵胜双士
作者: rixiao123    时间: 2012-10-23 20:17
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-23 17:37
153局不需要加象，我将原着法先后次序调整可行吗？

第2着是车9退5，可改走下士，则如何？
第9着是帅五平六，如改走红炮三平五叫将军，则黑方会赢。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-23 20:18
發現速勝法
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作者: rixiao123    时间: 2012-10-23 20:19
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-23 20:09
第16着是将6平5，如改走士5进6吃掉红兵，红可直接退炮打死黑3路卒成为炮兵胜双士

那黑将就没有这样快闷死掉。
作者: rixiao123    时间: 2012-10-23 20:27
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-23 17:37
153局不需要加象，我将原着法先后次序调整可行吗？


第2着是车9退5，可改走下士，红速胜。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-23 20:31
這樣可拖延步數
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 20:46
rixiao123 发表于 2012-10-23 20:19
那黑将就没有这样快闷死掉。

请多看看李中健先生的排局书，必胜的着法他就不会描述出来，只简约提一下
作者: rixiao123    时间: 2012-10-23 20:55
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-23 20:46
请多看看李中健先生的排局书，必胜的着法他就不会描述出来，只简约提一下

排局着法讲究红方要速胜，黑方要迟负(取最顽强着法)，不知是否？
作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 21:00
155局修改后如何？
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 21:08
163局将1路黑卒象向前靠拢，使棋局紧凑
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 21:18
孙先生：第205局将黑炮换为黑车。
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-23 21:31
208局只在原图加一红兵，行吗？
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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-23 23:22
标题: 这样黑可迟负。
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2012-10-23 23:24 编辑

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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-23 23:34
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-23 21:18
孙先生：第205局将黑炮换为黑车。

是否应黑炮先将一下再回去，这样走？
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-24 08:02
這樣是否可和局?但雙方和法頗多 也
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-24 08:21
這樣也可和,呵呵呵, 有沒有意思就憑各人自由心証吧
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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-24 12:34
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2012-10-24 14:44 编辑
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-23 17:18
落实一下第141局8路卒位置？


改成这样应该可成立！
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 14:52
209局移了黑马和加了一黑马，行吗？
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 16:00
232局改动较多，行吗？
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 16:07
孙先生：如成立，我认为该改图较满意。
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 16:25
第237局可以速胜，修改棋图，可以按照原思路走下去。
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 16:47
240局帽子修改后，思路符合原作
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 16:56
242局如何？
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 17:07
本帖最后由 zzk132 于 2012-10-24 18:27 编辑

251局小改一下图，中间着法修改，再增加一注解
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 17:48
本帖最后由 zzk132 于 2012-10-24 19:53 编辑

孙先生：278局在这里是应该车兵类，你的车炮类放在后面去。我从李中健先生的书上选一局，稍为修改
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 18:21
284局
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 19:10
293局红车前移一格
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 19:27
322局改图
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 19:59
356局着法要修改。
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 20:13
孙先生：358局是用你补278局的作品换的
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 20:29
孙先生：你代替371局用在后面，原371局我修改后，看能不能用？
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 21:14
383局原着法有误，我重新整理。
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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-24 21:27
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-24 20:29
孙先生：你代替371局用在后面，原371局我修改后，看能不能用？


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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-24 21:31
孙先生：我用你准备换371局的作品换387局，看对吗？
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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-25 10:12
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2012-10-25 10:32 编辑

楼上红方连走两步！

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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-25 10:31
本帖最后由 zzk132 于 2012-10-25 10:33 编辑

孙先生：你看的估计是高原红修改的，14回合的变化我在高原红修改的着法上增加了
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-25 13:14
388局稍微修改
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-25 13:37
本帖最后由 zzk132 于 2012-10-25 15:59 编辑

395局原着法无法取胜，修改图 基本保持原着法。
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-25 13:53
本帖最后由 zzk132 于 2012-10-25 15:36 编辑

396局着法修改
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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-25 14:04
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2012-10-25 14:22 编辑
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-24 18:21
284局


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作者: 高原红    时间: 2012-10-25 14:14
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2012-10-25 14:19 编辑
zzk132 发表于 2012-10-25 13:53
396局着法修改


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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-25 14:15
425局原图红是可以取胜，但着法是不能取胜，稍微调整棋图，着法完全不一样，成立否？
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作者: ntljh29103    时间: 2012-10-25 14:42
能不能再修改一下，让黑方的子也参加战斗，子动才能算是。不过多动两个子难度就大了。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-25 17:21
這樣的和局就像樣一點
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-25 21:02
ntljh29103 发表于 2012-10-25 14:42
能不能再修改一下，让黑方的子也参加战斗，子动才能算是。不过多动两个子难度就大了。

你所说是不是425局？425局我已修改，自认为比较满意，下周一贴上。因最近有新任务，出版社有一本书急于需要排版印刷，我去忙那本书了，望谅解。
作者: ntljh29103    时间: 2012-10-26 06:25
聨吟客 发表于 2012-10-25 17:21
這樣的和局就像樣一點

第034局第3回合红走炮一退五可速胜。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-26 09:20
ntljh29103 发表于 2012-10-26 06:25
第034局第3回合红走炮一退五可速胜。

黑優應可勝
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-26 09:52
這樣也很不錯
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作者: 凌云子    时间: 2012-10-26 10:29
ntljh29103 发表于 2012-10-25 14:42
能不能再修改一下，让黑方的子也参加战斗，子动才能算是。不过多动两个子难度就大了。

425局去掉河口相，所有的子力都动了，可惜是和局。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-26 10:41
425局去掉八路兵可能也是和局,河口相沒有走動(不過我個人比較不注重是否所有子都要走動就是了
作者: ntljh29103    时间: 2012-10-26 11:10
聨吟客 发表于 2012-10-26 09:52
這樣也很不錯

第9回合将4退1改走車9退6是不是提前和？提出看法仅仅是感觉，错的不要紧，能更正就好。不过要拟成极好的佳作，是比较难的。我有一篇不仿一看，见新浪微博，ntljh象棋妙杀高手微博内找，题目为“周游列国”。
作者: 凌云子    时间: 2012-10-26 12:38
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-26 18:33
ntljh29103 发表于 2012-10-26 11:10
第9回合将4退1改走車9退6是不是提前和？提出看法仅仅是感觉，错的不要紧，能更正就好。不过要拟成极好的佳 ...

和局的棋局, 黑方不以速和為主變
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-26 18:46
刪除八路兵之後,高相還可改邊相, 也能和
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-26 18:56
ntljh29103 发表于 2012-10-26 11:10
第9回合将4退1改走車9退6是不是提前和？提出看法仅仅是感觉，错的不要紧，能更正就好。不过要拟成极好的佳 ...

這樣紅應可勝
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-26 20:24
喔!紅可這樣走更容易和
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-26 21:50
凌兄的改局紅這樣走最後可保有相,不知有沒有契機?

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-27 04:13
好像也和局
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2012-10-29 17:56
孙先生：34局在、在综合大家的讨论看法，修改如同。行吗？

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-29 19:22
96 樓這樣可拖延步數
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-29 19:29
修飾為18回合
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2012-10-29 19:59
43樓修飾走法,更曲折一些
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