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标题: 《江湖棋摊揭秘》请棋友帮忙讨论、修改 [打印本页]

作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-21 18:58
标题: 《江湖棋摊揭秘》请棋友帮忙讨论、修改
《江湖棋摊揭秘》17章第1
5回合车55改车54照可以胜吗?
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-21 19:16
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-21 19:22
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江湖棋局22 小兵立功
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-21 19:31
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-22 03:41
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江湖棋局22 小兵立功
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-22 11:37
17章第7局“巧对花枪” 图对吗? [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8399999949999999990099411364999938519999309999526959990328999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-22 11:44
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-23 16:11
2章1局 原局和局,红6回合改炮二进八能胜吗?我认为可以红胜。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6999999939994799852775999999994199999999309999995099049948370343[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_event](张宝森拟局)[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_title]虚实会心[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]43[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]江湖排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]7578483839490444854538484939483839493747787050702720[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]||||(张宝森拟局)[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_1]414050404959405078583848453530405855445455455444455550705575475735555758555848585958707569637555275744546343403058485535571703044344545244043545485830400424454858594847595847452414455517575257144440505848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_1] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-23 17:43
第3章12局 黑6回合车1退7改将5平6能胜吗? [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999999999317232992520999999409942598299303899992499[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_event]丹凤朝阳系列[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_title]丹凤朝阳七路兵同型局 番外篇 附图 zqhuang修改局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]346[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_group]public_xq[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]8982200049593010828010803242000959583848584809024241405072710242483842627181807081717080718180608171606171616261252461632434636534246563[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]31414041324241314241313289823848495932424131423231413242413142323141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]我为了维持原局本意,增添一黑马。着法红先和[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment34]||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment34] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]这里涉及棋规问题。按99棋规发生互打时将,帅捉子也算捉。所以黑方长捉,红方长杀。不变判和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2]4050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2013-6-23 19:23
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-23 23:33
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-23 23:53
這樣修改局可否?
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-24 00:45
不知還有無問題?
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-24 10:19

      第9章1局
      “加兵操田”我从着法没有看到1•4位卒的作用,删除对吗?

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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-24 10:32
本帖最后由 zzk132 于 2013-6-27 16:01 编辑

             第9章2局
       “加马操田”21回合车三进一改车三进六,变化如何?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0] 这是周孟芳提出的修改局,能适合现代棋规而弈成和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_49]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]软。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_51]黑方不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_28]必须吃马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]![/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_44]
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-24 11:07

    第11章1局
    “蒋干探营”2回合象5退7改车6平7,黑能胜吗?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局富有江湖排局的特色,红方如不细加观察和分析,首着信手平车照将,则将中黑方埋伏。||本局与《百局象棋谱》的“猿猴摘果”、《竹香斋象戏潜》的“折柳章台”、《蕉竹斋》的“井里照月”均为同型排局。||||根据 象棋月刊1990年第10期、2001年出版徐家亮李浭苏德龙及1994年朱鹤洲诠注的渊深海阔象棋谱整理。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_5]1994年朱鹤洲诠注的渊深海阔象棋谱诠注[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]兑车和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_3]棋月刊1990年第10期、1994年朱鹤洲诠注的渊深海阔象棋谱刊注着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_4]棋月刊1990年第10期刊注着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_17]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]棋月刊1990年第10期刊注着法:[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]红胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_4]棋月刊1990年第10期刊注着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]红胜.由此可以得出结论,古局《蒋干探营》不是红先和而是红先胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]1994年朱鹤洲诠注的渊深海阔象棋谱刊注着法。此变招的出现有力的证明了棋月刊1990年第10期刊注着法所得出的红先胜的结论也是错误的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]1994年朱鹤洲诠注的渊深海阔象棋谱刊注着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_5]1994年朱鹤洲诠注的渊深海阔象棋谱刊注着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_8]棋月刊1990年第10期、1994年朱鹤洲诠注的渊深海阔象棋谱刊注着法。||以下红又有三种着法:[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_4]2001年出版徐家亮李浭苏德龙及1994年朱鹤洲诠注的渊深海阔象棋谱刊注着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_14]黑方占优势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_3]2001年出版徐家亮李浭苏德龙及1994年朱鹤洲诠注的渊深海阔象棋谱刊注着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_1]2001年出版徐家亮李浭苏德龙及1994年朱鹤洲诠注的渊深海阔象棋谱刊注着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_1]1994年朱鹤洲诠注的渊深海阔象棋谱刊注着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-24 11:16

    第11章2局
    “折柳章台”2回合象5退7改车6平7,黑能胜吗?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]52 折柳章台 红先和 王振[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_37]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_8]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_8]
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-24 11:28
聨吟客 发表于 2013-6-24 00:45
不知還有無問題?
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原棋图就是你的改图,在此局有一注:原局6回合黑将6平5可以取胜,这是修改图。
作者: yjr123    时间: 2013-6-24 11:50
zzk132 发表于 2013-6-24 10:19
第9章1局
      “加兵操田”我从着法没有看到1•4位卒的作用,删除对吗?

什么“加兵操田”?这不是古谱原局吗?
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-24 12:41
這樣嗎?
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_2]474878483848684850700709[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]似紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-24 12:48
這樣修改應可和,但又 簡單了點
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-24 13:29
zzk132 发表于 2013-6-24 11:16
第11章2局
    “折柳章台”2回合象5退7改车6平7,黑能胜吗?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_37]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_37]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-24 20:37
是說這樣
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-24 21:32
變著似有誤
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2013-6-24 21:34
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]
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作者: 桑莫喜    时间: 2013-6-24 21:43
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]6999999939994799850775999999994199999999309999995099049948370343[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_event](张宝森拟局)[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_title]虚实会心[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]43[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]江湖排局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]75784838394904448545384849394838394937474140304069685055454443446838552578792545070847373848373848454445797745467717464717184748495903041814040514440506081806161808162608052636054540304443[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]5040495940507858384845353040585544545545544445555070557547573555575855584858595870756963755507574454634340305848553557170304434454524404354548583040041445485859484759584748585948465958465617575257144440505848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12] 說這樣嗎\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_2]474878483848684850700709[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]似紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_3]78385545070847373848373808094547091944456878454678680304[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]變化複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-24 21:57
有點亂,整理一下
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[DhtmlXQ_title]52 折柳章台 红先和 王振[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]小车马[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_4_32_5]2425424335554341515041405051605055354043[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_32_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_30_6]022042402002404451501017[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_30_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_34_7]31321050[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_34_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_8_8]587849594867876778388880415067474030475730315751504159496082801082645141313041403031103038784044644244427871301002204240313240437179494879394340[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_8_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_18_9]388859498881575030315030[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_18_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_5_10]86663839493948273949474888485848495948495958274666464946[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_5_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_12]866630418747588849590220473748563738883866562425[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_14]87574757865648568880426041405051[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]52 折柳章台 红先和 王振[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_37]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_8]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_13]6636486747673848[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]這樣黑難勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_15]68608838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_20]红长捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_18_14_17]486788680220473738483731413051616070617170603161608071818070817170506151508071818060816160806167[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_14_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_13_19]8781[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_13_19][DhtmlXQ_move_15_13_18]874760695958696858594867[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_13_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_14]\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_13]\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_20_17_16]8187504187814150[/DhtmlXQ_move_20_17_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_20]41508161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_20][DhtmlXQ_comment19_13]待研[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_13][DhtmlXQ_comment15_13] 似紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_13][DhtmlXQ_comment25]不變作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-24 22:02
桑莫喜 发表于 2013-6-24 21:43
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[DhtmlXQ_event](张宝森拟局)[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_title]虚实会心[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]43[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]江湖排局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]757848383949044485453848493948383949374741403040696850554544434468385525787925450708473738483738484544457977454677174647171838480848474849590304[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]5040495940507858384845353040585544545545544445555070557547573555575855584858595870756963755507574454634340305848553557170304434454524404354548583040041445485859484759584748585948465958465617575257144440505848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12] 說這樣嗎\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_2]474878483848684850700709[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]似紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_3]78385545070847373848373808094547091944456878454678680304[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]變化複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_4]4748495903041814040514440506081806161808162608052636054540304443[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_5]49590304[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_5][DhtmlXQ_comment32]![/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
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作者: 桑莫喜    时间: 2013-6-24 22:41
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[DhtmlXQ_event](张宝森拟局)[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_title]虚实会心[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]43[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]江湖排局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]757848383949044485453848493948383949374741403040696850554544434468385525787925450708473738483738484544450807454607870304797846477877474849590405774705158783152583732535474440307343303143423132424332314342[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]5040495940507858384845353040585544545545544445555070557547573555575855584858595870756963755507574454634340305848553557170304434454524404354548583040041445485859484759584748585948465958465617575257144440505848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12] 說這樣嗎\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_2]474878483848684850700709[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]似紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_3]78385545070847373848373808094547091944456878454678680304[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]變化複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-25 09:11

    第15章0局
    “七星聚会”此局面,红先能取胜吗?求教!

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[DhtmlXQ_binit]6499999958999999999999519999999982999999429999999999992899999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_event] [/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_title]七星聚会[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]43[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]江湖排局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-25 09:29
32樓應和局吧?另外,可否列岀31樓6回合所謂將吃兵的黑勝法? (根據桑莫喜 棋友詮正我的研究是和局 )
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-25 14:53
11樓也黑勝
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[DhtmlXQ_event]丹凤朝阳系列[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_title]丹凤朝阳七路兵同型局 番外篇 附图 zqhuang修改局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]346[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]31414041324241314241313289823848495932424131423231413242413142323141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]我为了维持原局本意,增添一黑马。着法红先和[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]这里涉及棋规问题。按99棋规发生互打时将,帅捉子也算捉。所以黑方长捉,红方长杀。不变判和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2]09024241405072710242483842627181807081717080718180608171606171616261252461632434636534246563[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]7262090362520343485843535848242531418081[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_5]7170696242418081706062603130606848498180[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_5][DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_6]42412425718180608171606171616961[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_6][DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_4]71816961424161812524817124238081[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_7]7170808331308343[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_8]242365454838864671614641[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_8][DhtmlXQ_comment14] 仍黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-25 17:18

      32楼的局面是一种着法中注解(原为黑将5平4 我改为车9退5),原注解为红胜。所以列出求教大家。
      第15章0局
       “七星聚会”此局面,黑先能和吗?求教!
      此是一种着法(原为红帅五平六 我改为车三退二)局面。

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[DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]43[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-25 17:41
聨吟客 发表于 2013-6-25 09:29
32樓應和局吧?另外,可否列岀31樓6回合所謂將吃兵的黑勝法? (根據桑莫喜 棋友詮正我的研究是和局 ){:soso_e1 ...


      31樓6回合所謂將吃兵的黑勝法?这是原文提示,我也不知在那个网站、那个棋友、那个地方出现,望知情者贴出。谢谢!

作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-26 18:39

       王君:
      第17章0局
      “带子入朝”主着法到4回合后成为图4,按图4第1分局着法到23回合后,应成为图5局面,可不是。第1分局着法接走兵五平六,走不通?是哪里出问题了?

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[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_title] 带子入朝   图5[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2013-6-26 19:37
桑莫喜 发表于 2013-6-24 22:41

回复31楼 我研究是和棋
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]并非黑胜定,我研究是和棋.[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]和棋(YJR123注)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]
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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2013-6-26 19:40
zzk132 发表于 2013-6-25 09:11
第15章0局
    “七星聚会”此局面,红先能取胜吗?求教!

回复32楼 根据PAI残局库 红先和棋
http://lpforth.forthfreak.net/cg ... p34K3R96r29992P2k39
作者: yjr123    时间: 2013-6-26 19:47
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]并非黑胜定,我研究是和棋.[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]和定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-27 09:11
     首先谢谢诸君对此书的讨论、建议和看法!

     王君:
     第12章9局
     “火烧赤壁”应按此着法为红先胜,不是和局吧?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]诠正着法红先胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]原谱[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_5]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_4]原谱[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]修正着法,这样就是黑胜了[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-27 09:38
我曾改造這個局勢,不知可行否?
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-27 09:41
是這樣才對
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-27 09:46
一時記不清,邊兵不能刪
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-27 10:02
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]以後可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-27 11:24

    第19章6局
    “霞鹜齐飞”主着法注解6车5进7改车5进1黑能和吗?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_32][DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_7]4140505340466261283853133040131040416151413110133132[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_7]
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-27 11:36

   第19章7局
    “巧对花枪”主着法11回合红兵四平五改兵三进一能胜吗?

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-27 11:59
補充變化
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]以後可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2]87846961845459495444495944415141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32][DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_3]696826366878677778687767687867695958696858596878515078705040704041403040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_36] 和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_36]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-27 12:34
兵八進一如何?
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-27 12:38
不對,我看錯了
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-27 23:35
查了一下,當時我是修改一則叫做寒江獨釣的民間排局,原局太容易,所以我添邊卒,如下圖:
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-27 23:46
51樓  仍沒有達到預期的理想水準, 呵呵呵,勉強湊個熱鬧而已
(走法同48樓,多了一步卒3平4)
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-28 02:50
下圖如果成立,我會很滿意
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_4]8676678776868767[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_61]還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_61]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_7]393836373839373839493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_7][DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-6-28 12:04
補充
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]不變作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_61]還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_61]
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-28 12:14

       我将37楼的问题移至此,加上凑步数至图5。

       第17章0局
       “带子入朝”主着法到4回合后成为图4,按图4第1分局着法到23回合后,应成为图5局面,可不是。第1分局着法接走兵五平六,走不通?王君是哪里出问题了?

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      第17章0局
       “带子入朝”主着法到4回合后成为图4,按图4第1分局着法到16回合,原车五退一改为兵五平六凑步数,到25回合后就成为图5局面,不知凑步数正确否?

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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-6-28 15:27

      王君:
      第17章1局
      “小带子(一)”主着法不正确,按你意思,我将着法修改如下。看对否?

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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-7-1 17:00

      王君:
      第11章2局
      “折柳章台”2回合象5退7改车6平7后,按注3,10着红车一平五黑应车7进9 ,黑能胜吗?如能胜,是否红应按台湾陈先生的车一进五

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_37]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_37]
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作者: 667    时间: 2013-7-1 18:03
zzk132 发表于 2013-7-1 17:00
王君:
      第11章2局
      “折柳章台”2回合象5退7改车6平7后,按注3,10着红车一平五黑应 ...

王振兄在香港教学,不知道是否网络原因,王兄很久没有登录华工了。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2013-7-1 18:04
57樓7回合 應 炮一平六似紅優,所以6回合黑仍先車7進1
作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-7-3 18:26

           9回合黑改后卒进1,黑能胜吗?

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作者: bh22wsc    时间: 2013-7-3 18:47
钟老师,您好,实在抱歉,最近南行归来后在杭州琐事太多,没时间上网研究,刚看到这些,您看着处理即可。谢谢!
作者: ymjily    时间: 2013-7-4 11:04
王老师,你在杭州?百24我发到青岛去了,应该没有问题吧?
作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-7-4 11:14

       2章1局
       我修改棋图,按原着法如下:请棋友帮忙校对、校对,谢谢!!!
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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-7-4 11:27

      第3章12局
      我修改棋图,如能接按台湾陈先生拟着法成为红先黑胜局,保持着法精彩,作为江湖棋摊用也是不错的。请棋友帮忙校对、校对,谢谢!

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2013-7-4 11:50
zzk132 发表于 2013-7-4 11:14
2章1局
       我修改棋图,按原着法如下:请棋友帮忙校对、校对,谢谢!!!

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作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-7-4 13:25
余先生:加一红兵,可行吗?

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作者: 会心斋    时间: 2013-7-4 14:18
本帖最后由 会心斋 于 2013-7-4 14:28 编辑

是不是在讨论(审核)一部即将正式出版的书?这样临时“诠正”可能会隐藏巨大问题(需沉淀一段时间才能淬炼出好局)。如果zzk132钟先生是这部书的编辑(编审)而不是著者,则建议对确实发现问题的棋局就从书稿中撤下。编审的职责是审,而不是改。另外,临时改出来的棋局也不符合“江湖棋摊揭秘”的本义。
作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-7-4 15:22
会心斋 发表于 2013-7-4 14:18
是不是在讨论(审核)一部即将正式出版的书?这样临时“诠正”可能会隐藏巨大问题(需沉淀一段时间才能淬炼 ...

张先生:为什么不愿撤下,编辑是要求作者改或者找一局代替。
作者: yjr123    时间: 2013-7-4 15:28
我是不赞成随意修改,一个人审本来就容易审错,再加上补漏洞式的随意修改,弄得棋局着法都没有难度。
作者: zzk132    时间: 2013-7-4 15:39
yjr123 发表于 2013-7-4 15:28
我是不赞成随意修改,一个人审本来就容易审错,再加上补漏洞式的随意修改,弄得棋局着法都没有难度。

看来大家意见不要随意修改,那只好建议编辑撤下,再推版。
作者: yjr123    时间: 2013-7-5 08:12
着法是棋局的灵魂,多挖掘潜在的深奥着法使棋局更加精彩,如果拟局后,作者自己可以在短时间内拟出完全正确的着法,则其他人也很有可能在短时间内破解,一般着法会比较平淡,而补漏洞式的修改只会使精彩深奥之局趋于浅显。
作者: 会心斋    时间: 2013-7-5 09:58
本帖最后由 会心斋 于 2013-7-6 06:05 编辑

《江湖棋摊揭秘》这个书名也决定了其中的棋局应该是经过“江湖”“历练”过的棋局,而不是临时改出来的。可以用改局,但不是临时改的。编审一般只优化着法和文字,最好不要改棋局。有大错的棋局直接删去,可在本论坛继续讨论、优化、改编,以后再用。文章有“主题”,棋局也有“主题”,有些改局虽然可和,但“主题”不突出,江湖棋摊不用。




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