征集满子连照杀局，望大师参与

zff9876 · 发表于 2013-11-16 21:18:39

要求： 1、红黑双方各用子16个； 2、红方必须连照取胜（不连照便会败），黑方也必须自始至终保持有连照杀势； 3、红方除了双士双相和帅外，其余11个攻子主着法必须要有走动，且走动的各攻子必须有过亲自将军的着法； 4、主着法不能存在红方有攻子没有走动过和有攻子没有亲自将军的速胜法； 5、着数不限，越多越好！但是由于红方11个攻子必须要走动，所以红方最少着数为11着。

邪之牙 · 发表于 2013-11-17 00:34:53

全子的字图形局，不然收入的棋局太多了。

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-17 11:16:27

全子的字图形局，不然收入的棋局太多了。[/quote] 要求是无冗子，这是满子局最基本的要求，字图形局很难办到。如果连冗子都算上，这样的图形局就太多了，光威武之师就不下百局吧

棋人ctq · 发表于 2013-11-17 13:26:00

我对这一专题感觉有两个问题难解决：一是红方的士相是必须的吗？如果可以去掉红士相或用黑子代替它们起到遮挡作用（如果仅仅只有遮挡作用），而对杀局不产生影响，那么，红士相存在的价值就不大，这样的作品就有为满子局而设红士相的嫌疑，至少难算佳作。二是，黑方的做杀子力是否超标，如果超标，堆砌一些子力，比如可用一卒时用两卒，可用一车时用两车等，这样的作品也有为满子局而多设黑子的嫌疑。总之红方士相若能在做杀时走动参与进攻、黑做杀子力又不臃肿，才觉得是那么回事。

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-17 13:54:12

同意崔老师的观点。第一就双方是必须子子有用才算真正的满子局。第二就是在保证着法的情况下要遵循用子最简的原则，不能堆砌子力往满子上凑。

邪之牙 · 发表于 2013-11-17 14:54:54

红方除士象外无冗子的全子字图形局还是值得研究的。

邪之牙 · 发表于 2013-11-17 14:58:02

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zff9876 · 发表于 2013-11-17 18:21:36

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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-17 18:25:56

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邪之牙 · 发表于 2013-11-17 18:27:55

下面这局选自《现代象棋排局荟萃》，钟志康拟局[/quote] 第二回合兵三平四？！

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-17 18:34:07

阵卷横云裂--孙达军算是比较好的了，有一个冗子。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]2215473949598756758821443461117032270241313060550989186978232938[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]2232413215233141615141405150405070605040605040507570505170715150234250402120304171704150426140416153414053324041707141422022423234333242444355433343423243333242333242325644324244634232717232311121313063513040513240308838273532533543223243353212354372323040536143513242504142414041384851431211[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-17 18:51:57

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zff9876 · 发表于 2013-11-17 19:20:52

《烟波无际》局怎么3回合就速胜了，不可能呀，这是名家作品啊！？是书印错了还是哪个棋子摆错了！？

zff9876 · 发表于 2013-11-17 19:55:55

本帖最后由 zff9876 于 2013-11-17 20:04 编辑

http://book.ln.chaoxing.com/ebook/detail_10971803.html
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《满天星光》任云拟局
这局很精彩！达到了58回合红胜，无冗子！！符合主题要求！！！
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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-17 19:58:53

有冗子

小巧玲珑
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... 9&fromuid=27570

zff9876 · 发表于 2013-11-17 20:59:24

我自己拟的，来班门弄斧了！
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邪之牙 · 发表于 2013-11-17 22:08:34

全子局如果不是字图形局的话红仕相如果没用上的话似乎没有意义

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-17 23:41:23

这样可减两子：

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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-17 23:42:33

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zff9876 · 发表于 2013-11-18 07:05:08

上楼改得好！谢谢！！

老实人张无忌 · 发表于 2013-11-18 12:49:49

本帖最后由老实人张无忌于 2013-11-17 21:06 编辑

烟波无际图错了，应该是这样。不过也有速胜，16回合。
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★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-18 13:04:49

解健石的满城风雨，如果能维持原杀法就没有冗子，很可惜。
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老实人张无忌 · 发表于 2013-11-18 13:35:42

★星海★ 发表于 2013-11-17 21:04
解健石的满城风雨，如果能维持原杀法就没有冗子，很可惜。

《满城风雨》原谱着法29回合中有三处错误！

第1个，第7回合红应走马六进五，红13回合速胜。
第2个，第19回合红兵三平四败招。应该兵三进一，至22回合胜。
第3个，第24回合黑马2退4也是败招。改走卒3平4 黑胜。

可惜作者没发现这些错误，后来好多人也都没能发现。

zff9876 · 发表于 2013-11-18 19:15:01

《烟波无际》局把兵移到底线，这样原着法能否成立？请各位大师指教！
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zff9876 · 发表于 2013-11-18 19:19:32

老实人张无忌发表于 2013-11-18 13:35
《满城风雨》原谱着法29回合中有三处错误！

第1个，第7回合红应走马六进五，红13回合速胜。

说得很对，看来拟完局后审校还是很重要的！！

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-18 19:38:44

本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2013-11-18 20:46 编辑

zff9876 发表于 2013-11-18 19:15
《烟波无际》局把兵移到底线，这样原着法能否成立？请各位大师指教！

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zzk132 · 发表于 2013-11-27 15:57:56

   今天看到我的有错的《烟波无际》局，现将多年前写的《烟波无际》满子系列排局发上，望棋友们指正！

   《烟波无际》满子系列排局
   创作一则象棋排局，是需要采用象棋排局创作的各种方法；就是在一则排局完成后，为了增加作品质量和产着率，可以在修改棋图后，在原有着法的前面和后面进行延伸，这也是其中的一种方法，也是排局作品再创作的一种手段。如是别人的作品，要注明：“某某原著，自己修改”，不然有剽窃之嫌疑。
   下面介绍笔者的发表的一局满子排局经过不断移子修改，产生出一系列满子排局，这些棋局大部分得到王方权棋友的指点和发挥，使着法产着率得到增加，着法内容得到升华。
   第1局　烟波无际A局
   图1是笔者拟的《烟波无际A局》满子局，是最初版本的原始局，原本意着法为45着；而实际着法为31着，红先胜局。

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   第2局　烟波无际B局
   图2是《烟波无际B局》满子局，是在发现图1着法达不到45着而修改的棋图，着法为45着，红先胜局。

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   第3局　烟波无际C局
   图3是《烟波无际C局》满子局，着法为47着，红先胜局。

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   第4局　烟波无际D局
   图4是《烟波无际D局》满子局，着法为55着，红先胜局。

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   第5局　烟波无际E局
   图5是《烟波无际E局》满子局，着法为55着，红先胜局。

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   第6局　烟波无际F局
   图6是《烟波无际F局》满子局，着法为55着，红先胜局。

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   第7局　烟波无际G局
   图7是《烟波无际G局》满子局，着法为57着，红先胜局。

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   第8局　烟波无际H局
   图8是《烟波无际H局》满子局，着法为59着，红先胜局。

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   第9局　烟波无际I局
   图9是《烟波无际I局》满子局，着法为59着，红先胜局。

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   第10局　烟波无际J局
   图10是《烟波无际J局》满子局，着法为59着，红先胜局。

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   第11局　烟波无际K局
   图11是《烟波无际K局》满子局，着法为59着，红先胜局。

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   第12局　烟波无际L局
   图12是《烟波无际L局》满子局，着法为59着，红先胜局。

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   第13局　烟波无际M局
   图13是《烟波无际M局》满子局，着法为59着，红先胜局。

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   第14局　烟波无际N局
   图14是《烟波无际N局》满子局，着法为59着，红先胜局。

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老实人张无忌 · 发表于 2013-11-28 11:55:30

zzk132 发表于 2013-11-26 23:57
今天看到我的有错的《烟波无际》局，现将多年前写的《烟波无际》满子系列排局发上，望棋友们指正！ ...

钟先生治学严谨啊。为了修改一局棋，研究出了这么多变例。佩服！

★星海★ · 发表于 2013-11-28 12:10:19

zzk132 发表于 2013-11-27 15:57
今天看到我的有错的《烟波无际》局，现将多年前写的《烟波无际》满子系列排局发上，望棋友们指正！ ...

是否有必要做成满子局?这是最后一局，去掉双士双相黑炮并移车，有问题吗？
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zzk132 · 发表于 2013-11-28 14:06:15

★星海★ 发表于 2013-11-28 12:10
是否有必要做成满子局?这是最后一局，去掉双士双相黑炮并移车，有问题吗？

没有问题，还可以去子。

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