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标题: 百25達者為師優化局變11的疑問 [打印本页]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-13 19:28
标题: 百25達者為師優化局變11的疑問
作者張云川,達者為師優化局,我對變11之疑問

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-13 19:30
以前在百25投稿區我有提出過,但都沒人理,

作者: 柒匹狼 时间: 2014-10-13 19:36
以前在百25投稿區我有提出過,但都沒人理,[/quote] 好像红胜啊

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-13 19:37
我覺得卒3進1不是正著,大家認為呢

作者: 柒匹狼 时间: 2014-10-13 19:40
我覺得卒3進1不是正著,大家認為呢[/quote] 车2平8 可好

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-10-13 19:42
第二回合卒3进1是败着。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-13 19:44
當時也認為黑參考其他變著應可和,就卒3進1怪怪的

作者: 柒匹狼 时间: 2014-10-13 19:45
我覺得卒3進1不是正著,大家認為呢[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949990799439925999999422499999999403299990199999983235838[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4347011107295848495911514252514125454171454840304849717447572324[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]||原譜變11[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_1]23242545405047571151455550405758[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_1] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 柒匹狼 时间: 2014-10-13 19:54
看看我这里那着是错的

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-10-13 20:00
原投稿棋谱

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]    近年，江湖上流行一则从台湾流传过来的名为\u0022达者为师\u0022的棋局，变化很精妙，可惜有棋例纠纷，不能正和，美中不足。笔者在其基础上，增加一兵两卒，成如图形式，即可消除缺憾，增加变化，臻于完善。||    在优化局势和完善着法的过程中，先后承蒙余俊瑞、龚伟、赵殿忠、王振、孙达军等棋友指出不当之处，特此鸣谢！||||        张云川||    2004年10月初稿||    2013年06月定稿||||[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]！||以退为进，以守为攻，唯通达之人方能有此妙想，“达者为师”，此之谓也。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]与上回合相似，仍不可兵七平六。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]！||此时献兵，恰到好处！如坚持车六平四，将６平５，车四平六，将５平６，车六平四，循环不变，红一将一要抽吃，按国内比赛规则判黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_80]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_3]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_4]红方白白丢兵，黑胜定，例如接走——[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_23]双方循环不变，红一将一捉，黑一杀一闲，国内竞赛规则判黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_14]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_3]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_4]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_6]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_4]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_5]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_9]红幸胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_3]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_8]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_3]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_4]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_3]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_8]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_14]黑优胜势，例如接走——[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_32]红方子力呆滞，无法阻止黑方进卒，黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_20]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_6]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_15]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_6]与正局同，和棋。略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_3]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_8]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_19]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_5]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_6]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_26]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_8]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_6]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_14]双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_5]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_34]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_4]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_5]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_11]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_25]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_37]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_19]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_21]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_29]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_4]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_5]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_29]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_13]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_15]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_9]殊途同归，红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_11]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_13]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_2]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_5]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_2]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_17]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_17]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_11]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_5]红白得卒，胜定，例如接走——[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_2]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_37]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_23]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_31]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_17]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_17]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_9]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_11]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_13]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_29]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_35]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_29]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_21]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_11]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_2]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_17]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_17]
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作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-10-13 20:13
[/quote] 没有错，红接走兵四平五，演变下去和棋

作者: 柒匹狼 时间: 2014-10-13 20:17

象棋法官发表于 2014-10-13 20:13
没有错，红接走兵四平五，演变下去和棋

第五回合不能车5平8 否则黑长杀

作者: τ.半路浅唱 时间: 2014-10-13 20:21
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作者: 柒匹狼 时间: 2014-10-13 20:27

τ.半路浅唱发表于 2014-10-13 20:21

同样可以和只是卒6平5是黑方主动车2平8是红方主动而已

作者: 会心斋 时间: 2014-10-26 18:53
11/12楼,红接走兵四平五，演变下去是不是红优? (与10楼第1回合卒6平5变相似)

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-10-27 02:16
達者為師原局也是鍾若文書上的

陳老的搜秘有介紹大家都很熟知吧

有空我再補上

作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2022-10-27 12:31
本帖最后由老鸽子于 2022-10-27 14:13 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2022-10-27 02:16
達者為師原局也是鍾若文書上的

陳老的搜秘有介紹大家都很熟知吧

《台湾民间排局辑刊》、张云川《象棋残局生死棋型》、钟志康《民间象棋排局》里也收录了原局。但后二者的原局（左右子力配置方向同主题帖）与前者及”搜秘“版本，左右子力配置方向相反。请问钟若文原局的子力配置方向与上述前者和”搜秘“版本完全相同吗？

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-10-27 14:01
鍾若文書上
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-10-27 14:06
樓上走法經過修正

鍾的原走法主變走成長將居然判和呵呵呵

而鍾的變三才是正解同樓上走法

作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2022-10-27 14:19
这样的话，钟若文原局、《台湾民间排局辑刊》、《江湖棋局搜秘》三版图式完全相同，而张云川《象棋残局生死棋型》、钟志康《民间象棋排局》，以及这里的主题帖这三版左右子力配置方向相反！

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