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[原创棋局] 野马脱缰,拆解谱汇报贴(已汇报完毕),作者:一杯红酒

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发表于 2015-1-28 12:10:45 | 只看该作者 |只看大图 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-28 12:32:52 | 只看该作者

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发表于 2015-1-28 12:55:36 | 只看该作者
红酒改局特点:脱帽后双方均势,并都保持一定的实力,以此达到变化复杂的要求。

我喜欢的棋局:子少着精,少将多闲;败中求和,和中取胜。

因此就江湖局而言,我认为脱帽后一方须苦守求和的比较好。
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-28 13:09:30 | 只看该作者
我的标准是:红黑任选,和棋算客户胜! 全局战斗激烈,到尾盘,一直到结束,谁也不能错一步,谁错谁输!
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-28 13:52:25 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2015-1-28 19:53:50 | 只看该作者
讓我想起沈濟英老師,兩位風格頗接近,都變化複雜,只是沈局也有紅方苦守和的佳作
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-28 20:01:07 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2015-1-28 20:04:38 | 只看该作者
云濤先生好像也是類似這樣 , 不過他發表的局很少
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发表于 2015-1-29 09:37:42 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-29 10:09:52 | 只看该作者
野马脱缰(正变和棋),试解几次都是黑胜,敬请指教,谢谢![/quote] 你的黑胜谱,能发出来研究一下不?
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发表于 2015-1-29 10:15:34 | 只看该作者
野马脱缰(正变和棋),试解几次都是黑胜,敬请指教,谢谢![/quote] 脫帽應該是這樣 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7464659939999999849999020399999916994230404199999999990617183748[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]野马脱缰(正变和棋)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_place]unknown[/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马脱缰||古今车马临门类江湖第一局||作者:一杯红酒[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]7470426070604150645240415233413160613041335231328434324234444232443432425244165644635653344442326162415262523231444853523949[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment31]第一階段的脫帽,以下黑有車6平3與平8兩大變化,都很複雜o[/DhtmlXQ_comment31] [/DhtmlXQ]
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发表于 2015-1-29 10:29:07 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-29 10:46:13 | 只看该作者
zhang48129 发表于 2015-1-29 10:29

这是我的脱帽过程,和联吟客先生的脱帽,虽然过程不一样,结果局面是一样的!
你再研究一下,这局难度不在脱帽上,后面局面有些麻烦,还下有软件套,需要结合人力来拆解!
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发表于 2015-1-29 20:40:05 | 只看该作者
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-1-29 10:46
这是我的脱帽过程,和联吟客先生的脱帽,虽然过程不一样,结果局面是一样的!
你再研究一下,这局难度不 ...

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-29 22:45:51 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2015-1-29 23:14 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment28]本局脱帽完成!||以后红有:||车五进二、车五进四两大变例均可弈和!||红如车五平四、车五进三、车五进五?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红劣变?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]红劣变?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-30 00:10:10 | 只看该作者

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发表于 2015-1-30 08:49:08 | 只看该作者
邢春波 发表于 2015-1-29 20:40

人脑分析了下,14楼最后局面应该红胜了: 接走帅5平4,然后马相守卫,黑卒不能右移进攻, 红两兵足够杀将了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-30 11:07:33 | 只看该作者
14楼,16回合,黑车8平5不好,黑车8平9好些,黑如车8进7,黑有速和,这也是我修改原局的原因,黑有速和就不能满足红黑任选,和棋算客户胜,请大家拆解野马脱缰16子改局吧,脱帽是一样的!
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发表于 2015-1-30 14:02:40 | 只看该作者
原局很多變化我都還沒弄清楚,紅酒兄是否能把研究的變化都貼出來供我與大家學習參考呢

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发表于 2015-1-30 14:12:59 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-30 14:47:08 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2015-1-31 23:54 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2015-1-30 14:02
原局很多變化我都還沒弄清楚,紅酒兄是否能把研究的變化都貼出來供我與大家學習參考呢

 

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[DhtmlXQ_comment28]這樣不好嗎?||黑劣变?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]回答联吟客先生||这里个人觉得黑车6平8要强些![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]紅酒兄說的如何變化[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]这是我的主变![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]速和与复杂变例共存![/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]紅酒兄說的速和如何變化||黑有速和变例![/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]黑一将一闲,红一闲一杀,双方没有变招,不变和棋![/DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]展开这变,还很复杂呀![/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]黑弱势守和![/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_75]和棋![/DhtmlXQ_comment5_75]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-31 11:59:09 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2015-1-31 12:07 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment28]本局脱帽完成!||以后红有:||车五进二、车五进四两大变例均可弈和!||红如车五平四、车五进三、车五进五?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]yjr123诠释这变为黑胜是对的![/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]红正变2!和谱[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红劣变?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]红劣变?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]红劣变?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]
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23#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-31 13:01:45 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2015-1-31 14:09 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]红如车二进四结果一样![/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]黑如车6平3?||红优势可胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]红如车五平四、车五进三、车五进四、车五进五?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]黑如车8平1?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]本局脱帽完成!||以下请各位老师拆解指导![/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
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24#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-31 13:39:44 | 只看该作者

25#
发表于 2015-1-31 19:13:02 | 只看该作者
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-1-31 13:01

敢把自己的作品号称第一,但竟然没有完整和准确的着法,还要请论坛的高手指点,看来红酒先生以后还是低调一些好。另外1楼结论是黑胜吧。
26#
发表于 2015-1-31 19:47:33 | 只看该作者
邢春波 发表于 2015-1-31 19:13
敢把自己的作品号称第一,但竟然没有完整和准确的着法,还要请论坛的高手指点,看来红酒先生以后还是低调 ...

27#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-31 19:48:18 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2015-1-31 20:08 编辑
邢春波 发表于 2015-1-31 19:13
敢把自己的作品号称第一,但竟然没有完整和准确的着法,还要请论坛的高手指点,看来红酒先生以后还是低调 ...

1楼局我自己拆解的是和局,说的是车马临门类的
28#
发表于 2015-2-2 14:11:44 | 只看该作者
说了一局名局是要经历时间的考验和修改的,不能单凭个人,你都不相信我说的话......
29#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-2-9 20:47:19 | 只看该作者
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30#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-2-10 20:20:35 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2015-2-28 12:46 编辑

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