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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-17 17:20
标题: 竹林碎綠
現代規則速和法在各詮注本已有介紹＿ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999974019965999931860610996050404142994899099999036458[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]竹林碎綠[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]01001000624264657453483839380969426241526252002052222010221210201222201022121020[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]古譜傾向于紅須變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1]1217[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment20]如不變,現代大陸規則互相長打作和,亞洲規則怎麼判\u003F好像長獻對長殺也都是允許走法判和o[/DhtmlXQ_comment20] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-17 17:25
忘了說,竹香齋三集的局

,大家看看有沒有辦法修改,不要那麼快即可利用規則破解,我還沒想到滿意的方案

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-17 17:38
今天下午弄個不同走法的局面,但改得並不高明,最後也有規則問題,只不過亞規判和局,陸規判黑敗,所以並未影響紅方破解的結果,棋攤上都算紅方破解

, 此局我也尚不滿意,只是暫時提供不同走法的局面參考

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-18 17:00
這個走法成立否 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999939999974019965999931819910996050404102424899095777036458[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]竹林碎綠改局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]0100100062426465745348383938096931415041424140505332584838486959817157584849001049391030394930104939103039493010[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_1]42624152625258483839575852025859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_1][DhtmlXQ_comment9]此局須走此著[/DhtmlXQ_comment9][DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_7]48470010321102247161244247371020413150406151595131512027373827263837426411324030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_7][DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_2]48380030383730323747324241426042[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_2][DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_34] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_25_4]414030403240675747375040[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_25_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_30]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_30] [DhtmlXQ_move_7_21_5]41111011321177671132675747375848716160423244596944656967[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_21_5][DhtmlXQ_move_7_21_3]47371030374777677161675747373032[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_21_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_30]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_30] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_8]32110224716124424131102049395040615159513151584811324030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_8][DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_11]4111101132117778113259894939584871617879[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_9]4140104032407778403259894939584871617879[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_9][DhtmlXQ_comment9_30]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_30] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_24_13]6042415159516160[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_24_13][DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_24_14]6082615159514151[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_24_14][DhtmlXQ_comment14_27]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_27]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_27][DhtmlXQ_comment16_28]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_29]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment28]雙方不變,亞規作和,陸規紅勝,棋攤上都算紅方破解o[/DhtmlXQ_comment28] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_32]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_32][DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_36]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_36][DhtmlXQ_move_7_25_20]41311020112350403133201047375989[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_25_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_7_35_6]51314264[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_35_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_32]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_32]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_34]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_34][DhtmlXQ_move_8_27_19]112350403133201049395989[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_27_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_8_31_21]11322030[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_31_21][DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_12]022471612442415159516160[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_15]604271610224415159516160[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_16]716130323949324241426042[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_17]303241405051716151524050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_17] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-18 18:59
期待楼主再改改，这种纠纷容易打架

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-18 19:44
這局型不好改,若弄得面目走法全非也不宜稱作改局,竹香齋初集就有一局軒飛霞舉,圖相近但走法變化完全不同

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-18 19:49
還有一種改法捨棄原局的帽子,但大家應該不會認為這是個好方案

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-19 12:34
刪除一路兵能不能和? [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]1899999938999953999999999932990620996050309999993199699999036558[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]竹林碎綠改局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-19 13:07
8樓應該黑勝 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]1899999938999953999999999932990620996050309999993199699999036558[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]竹林碎綠改局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]323130401817584838376967060565661707504131414050533260423220665637474858473756573738670738375848203207093244096944636967[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1]537420210717604237474858473742201707214107065040063641473738676838394749[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30][DhtmlXQ_comment9]沒有其他子可走[/DhtmlXQ_comment9][DhtmlXQ_comment30]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment30] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-19 13:20
再刪1路卒看看

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-20 06:55
10樓太容易,下圖是目前我較滿意的,為了解決1樓的速和問題也只好犧牲古局的帽子,另外設計一頂新帽,雖然這頂新帽不美,但總算解決了古帽的問題,而刪除邊兵邊卒更能發揮後半局特色

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-20 07:08
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2015-3-20 07:12 编辑

弄錯了,黑勝

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_28]||黑勝勢[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]同主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment26]黑勝勢[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-20 07:15
那就再把邊兵邊卒都弄回來,後面變化就都與古局相同了

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