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[排局杂谈] 排局界——人脑与电脑大PK。

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发表于 2015-8-19 07:48:14 | 只看该作者 |只看大图 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
排局界——人脑与电脑大PK。 说明: 1 仅限于排局界。 2 排局界的老师体会最深。 3 创作体会和所见所闻皆可贴出。 4 哪个电脑棋软解不出您贴出的排局。
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-8-19 07:51:07 | 只看该作者
【转载】痴人说棋的博客排局。 这个排局人脑或许不难,用软件来解,就会陷入一将一闲的循环,不能取胜。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_title]忙里偷闲[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999939999999997543999999990699419930405099429965990317487999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_red] [/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_black] [/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_result] [/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_event]云涛[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]757065607077606777176727171227201222796922292027060569592959485859495848498927878988485839385868383787868887868487858464852564244344242325452343454368584442[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0_13]这步闲棋点题,是红方取胜关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_13] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-8-19 07:53:15 | 只看该作者
【转载】痴人说棋的博客排局。 此局用软件不易破解,用人脑思路对了就很容易。 (强软应该能解,巫师是解不开的) [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_title]涧水无声绕竹柔[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9903999949999999992299869999999980412030405060999928702499999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_red] [/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_black] [/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]0311808222288242284870724939242548432535868535368584363784747282746482726454728254448272443472823433827233237262232262722212726212026272020172620100627200107262102062722030[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0_0]本局关键是一个“绕”字,以柔克刚,百炼钢化为绕指柔。原诗句为“涧水无声绕竹流”,今突出一个“柔”字。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_0] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-8-19 08:18:02 | 只看该作者
高原红老师的三则大作。 周软没解出来(强软能解吗?人脑能解吗?我加的)!人解一会又出结果一会又觉不对! [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0602999949999982861676453443544418999999409999997804842547653858[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 对称梅花 拟局王方权[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0602079949488782861676453443544418999999409999997809892547653858[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 对称梅花 拟局王方权[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0702999949489982871777453443544418999999409999997804842558653899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 对称梅花 拟局王方权[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
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发表于 2015-8-19 10:20:52 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2015-8-19 23:22:22 | 只看该作者
变化较多,主着法47回胜没问题!人脑解的。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8682879949480702067616544544433418999999409999997809892538475865[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2015-8-19 10:12:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2015-8-19 10:12:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]对称梅花 【王方权拟局】[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]022140501656655554645565214250514263515063715040826140305636253534243525433325356142304071524041526041514230515076707870304250404221403033233525213325353352352552313040605240415233414031524050365665555260556533545040605240415233413156362535332135452333314154624151865665555655455562705150365655454454455521425040564655454263455563444050706250514432515254535242334342320636[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]53[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]4[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]9649680[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]日升张谦[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]日升张谦[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_1]51414342413156362535342435452434453542323130634230408261404132314131422331417646354561534140533240414454453523444131445231323433324233434252545352515352515052515051865665555655[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_72_2]51413646554544544535706241316243313021423031426331306351[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_72_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_3]4140332140415462415144546555627051502142504042614050544455656153504053324041706241315636313223333242334342524353525136566555535251415242414244434232063625353635[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_66_4]514156464131063625353635[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_66_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_76_5]4030563625357051303132533545233345353332[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_76_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_86_6]524244434232433332423646[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_86_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_7]303123332535333231303231304031414050865665555655[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_7] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-8-20 04:00:47 | 只看该作者
【转载】痴人说棋的博客排局。 \ 这一局比前两局难度更大,软件解不了,人脑也很难。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_title]定国安邦···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9946659947998799999999419999999999992099509942999958993959838899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_red] [/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_black] [/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4654586847488878547368697352697965478384483884855244426444632042472539493848858687654939654739494729493948478687290739494748493925474220476920426351786869876878516339490725493948473949415150406344786844324030514179713244718144236858231581831503[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_1]4765644265877969[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2]394947656482634279694223826023446042445269796587493952447969446359496342[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_3]415150406344786844324030514179713213717313327323321123212907[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_37_4]32448777442377672315685815037177[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_37_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_5]41515040634442244858786858576442[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_31_6]29477868443240304765644251417971[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_31_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_7]422447692442484786876351786869876878516359494151504063447868443240305141797132444224445264425271[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_8]48475949415150406344786844324030514179713244717525077576443276713244717644237626[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_9]4847868747484939254742204765644265877969[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_27_10]476920426351786869876878516339498765493965473949472549394151504063447989443240305141898132444224443664423615818215032402[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_27_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_11]422438486442876539496547493947695969635578685574[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_11_24_12]4264476924424847858641515040634478684432403051417971324486764423766623156667150368580322[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_24_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_13]8586446359496355795987654264476920425563[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_13_16_14]426463517868514379783837787141515040436271615161[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_16_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_15]87698384474884855473857573526878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment0_20]黑进卒势在必行,否则将速胜。胜法见9回合注解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_20] [DhtmlXQ_comment0_21]红留相正确,弃相则不能胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment0_28]黑进卒给红方取胜制造最大麻烦,红要取胜必须吃掉这个卒,怎么吃呢?是个难题。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment0_37]与上着退底相形成巧妙地配合迫使黑卒离开相眼。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_37] [DhtmlXQ_comment0_39]至此红方国内之乱已定,已可放开手脚向敌展开进攻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_39] [DhtmlXQ_comment0_61]绝杀红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_51]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]红一味求胜反成败局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_44] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]红方无法取胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]红无法取胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_47]红速胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红退相才是取胜之道,如急于走进帅想要速胜,反而胜不了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_34]利用红三路高相做炮架,妙手成和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_42] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_30]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_30] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_56]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_45]红快一步杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_45] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_23]红速胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_27]红得炮胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_10]和棋和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_10] [/DhtmlXQ]
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发表于 2015-10-21 12:13:25 | 只看该作者
整理下几局周软算不出或算错的连照局

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发表于 2015-10-21 16:23:12 | 只看该作者
软件解得不对吗?

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10#
发表于 2015-10-21 16:41:19 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 湖艓 于 2015-10-21 16:42 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2015-10-21 16:23
软件解得不对吗?

回余老师 特指“周软” 我运行周软算不出而且这类局无法实现倒推
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发表于 2015-10-21 17:16:26 | 只看该作者
湖艓 发表于 2015-10-21 16:41
回余老师 特指“周软” 我运行周软算不出而且这类局无法实现倒推

12#
发表于 2015-10-21 17:19:58 | 只看该作者

看来能解!而且耗时并不长!谢谢解惑!可能是配置问题 运算较慢您这个还不是最新版吧?
13#
发表于 2015-10-21 17:28:47 | 只看该作者
周软没有配置问题,而且只支持单核,高级电脑也发挥不出优势。

我用的是本论坛公开发布的最新版(8.2版)
14#
发表于 2015-10-21 17:41:52 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 湖艓 于 2015-10-21 17:51 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2015-10-21 17:28
周软没有配置问题,而且只支持单核,高级电脑也发挥不出优势。

我用的是本论坛公开发布的最新版(8.2版 ...

我不是很懂电脑 但的确运算起来很吃力 如果算很久不出结果我就放弃了 因为cpu持续100%
其他事情干不了了-------------------------
用9.0算了下  思考深度停留在33了 还在继续

15#
发表于 2015-10-21 18:45:15 | 只看该作者
我用最新版9.3.1试了一下,用时也差不多,你的电脑大概是10年前买的吧!
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发表于 2015-10-21 18:47:03 | 只看该作者
yjr123 发表于 2015-10-21 18:45
我用最新版9.3.1试了一下,用时也差不多,你的电脑大概是10年前买的吧!

哈哈 有些年数了 液晶老机子了
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