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标题: 水中捞月···邢春波拟局 [打印本页]
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-9-9 20:58
标题: 水中捞月···邢春波拟局
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-10 11:44
試解
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-9-10 20:50
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-10 11:44
試解

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 08:56
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2015-9-11 09:01 编辑

嗯,修正一下
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 09:06
這個大陸規則怎麼判? 是判紅勝嗎?
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作者: koeiii    时间: 2015-9-11 11:26
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-11 09:06
這個大陸規則怎麼判? 是判紅勝嗎?

如果黑只有一个进攻子，黑车捉相这一步不算捉，判和。此局面黑多底卒，判负。如果无底卒，判和。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 14:13
感謝K兄,4樓我剛有發現問題,而5樓黑卒不怕被吃,可能要重新擬著了
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 14:21
4樓的問題
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]黑一將一捉,紅一殺一閒,大陸規則紅勝o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 14:37
根據6樓的規則, 黑卒不怕被吃,紅取勝的難度很高了
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 14:51
摸索出來了,不知正確否?
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 14:56
仍有問題
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7]所以紅應這樣\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 15:02
呵呵呵,這樣可以了嗎?
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 15:16
8 樓可勝
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 15:20
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_1]0919807043447060444349394344290744433938434448394443315143333848334348384333384833434838433338483343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_8_3]436329076364072564633111[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_8_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_13] 參考主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]40305141333848493839494839594725595441435434605030315040[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]||紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]黑一將一捉,紅一殺一閒,大陸規則紅勝o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_28_5]303153333141333044545949545525075554472554553040413148595554404131325040543440303437302037394948395941423231424059514030[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_28_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]|| 紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]||![/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_6]454451534434485730315343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_6][DhtmlXQ_comment26]但這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 15:30
12樓也還未透徹
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[DhtmlXQ_title]水中捞月···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10]黑卒不怕被吃[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]所以紅應這樣\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_1]3337472937365141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]2939514133374725[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_5]434459484434[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_5][DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_3]43475153303153333141333047673040413158486737404131325040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]先進仕[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-11 15:47
和局?
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]8999294849594799999999809999999933999999309999999999990999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10]黑卒不怕被吃[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]所以紅應這樣\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_1]3337472937365141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]2939514133374725[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_5]434459484434[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_3]43475153303153333141333047673040413158486737404131325040[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]先進仕[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_32_4]444551533031533331413330455548575554304041314725545558485557404131324143573750403231434131324030373430203424414232314240[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_32_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_6]605029394858394959484333[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_7]434451533031533331413330[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_7][DhtmlXQ_comment27]不如這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment27][DhtmlXQ_comment48]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment48]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_8]515430315444335358485350476550524434523234323132[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_8][DhtmlXQ_comment8_44]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_9]072973748070746470606444290744453938454448394443315143333848334348384333384833434838433338483343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_9][DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]黑只有車一個攻子,佔據守和要點附帶捉仕相 的一將一捉判和o[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34822%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-9-17 19:55
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-11 15:47
和局?

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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]898433438434304034314341[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_10]黑卒不怕被吃[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_7]所以紅應這樣\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_1]3337472937365141[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_2]2939514133374725[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_5]434459484434[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_3]43475153303153333141333047673040413158486737404131325040[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]先進仕[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_32_4]444551533031533331413330455548575554304041314725545558485557404131324143573750403231434131324030373430203424414232314240[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_32_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_27_6]605029394858394959484333[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_27_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_32_7]434451533031533331413330[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_32_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]不如這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_48]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_48]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_33_8]515430315444335358485350476550524434523234323132[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_33_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_44]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_11_9]072973748070746470606444290744453938454448394443315143333848334348384333384833434838433338483343[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_11_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]黑只有車一個攻子,佔據守和要點附帶捉仕相 的一將一捉判和o[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_10]4373493909192907192939387374807074737060734331514333483733433748433348374030384833430729434460504443485843334725333459483433485733435748433348573343515430315434314134304151[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_10][DhtmlXQ_comment6]||立即成和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2015-9-19 13:41
邢春波 发表于 2015-9-17 19:55

这样呢？

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[DhtmlXQ_title]水中捞月···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]89843343840409190401304080704344706044450111190948374544594844431151434249590919605040305154423254143252485752575949303114113132111057541030324230404232472532314041313229075434504034374030373949483936302036384849383641403639494839364030[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_10]黑卒不怕被吃[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_7]所以紅應這樣\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_1]3337472937365141[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_2]2939514133374725[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_5]434459484434[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_3]43475153303153333141333047673040413158486737404131325040[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_30_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]先進仕[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_32_4]444551533031533331413330455548575554304041314725545558485557404131324143573750403231434131324030373430203424414232314240[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_32_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_27_6]605029394858394959484333[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_27_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_32_7]434451533031533331413330[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_32_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]不如這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_48]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_48]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_33_8]515430315444335358485350476550524434523234323132[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_33_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_44]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_11_9]072973748070746470606444290744453938454448394443315143333848334348384333384833434838433338483343[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_11_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]黑只有車一個攻子,佔據守和要點附帶捉仕相 的一將一捉判和o[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_6_10]4373493909192907192939387374807074737060734331514333483733433748433348374030384833430729434460504443485843334725333459483433485733435748433348573343515430315434314134304151[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_6_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_6]||立即成和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_11]8434304034314341[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_12]3031543431413430[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_13]1909141030311040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_14]303114113130111030311040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_15]445411104041605041311040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_15][DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_21][DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]||黑中路必失，红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27][DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_29][DhtmlXQ_comment59]||红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_16]5450414350534353[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_16][DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_47]
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作者: ★星海★    时间: 2015-9-19 15:19
杨启忠 发表于 2015-9-19 13:41
这样呢？

黑车已占中如果有机会升将能和吧？
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2015-9-19 17:44
★星海★ 发表于 2015-9-19 15:19
黑车已占中如果有机会升将能和吧？

嗯！18#第二回合红平车九路过急，应进车控制黑升将，可走车一进三。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-19 20:39
黑卒不怕被吃,可能仍和局吧?
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-19 20:41
杨启忠 发表于 2015-9-19 17:44
嗯！18#第二回合红平车九路过急，应进车控制黑升将，可走车一进三。

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[DhtmlXQ_title]水中捞月···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]898433438481304080704341[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-19 21:25
可能要再 研究一些變化,
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[DhtmlXQ_title]水中捞月···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]898433438481304081110919807019294729434470604443[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]80704341[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]29074347[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3][DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]11194041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]||結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8][DhtmlXQ_comment12]r結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]4344[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]r結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_8][DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]||d可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-19 21:40
嗯,根據楊兄的概念似乎解開了
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[DhtmlXQ_title]水中捞月···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]89843343848130408111091980704344706044431151434460504030483719295948291949591929515344345323303123213132212032312040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]80704341[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]29074347[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]11194041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]||結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]r結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]192947294344706044431151434429474443483743475948474460504030495944345111344411133031133331413330[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]||d可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_24_5]4443515443335414303114113132111032311040[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_24_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]3031543431413430[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6][DhtmlXQ_comment8]剩這樣,結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-19 21:53
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2015-9-19 21:56 编辑

不大對
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[DhtmlXQ_title]水中捞月···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]80704341[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]29074347[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]11194041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]||結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]r結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]4344706044431151434460504030483719295948291949594434511134545949544449594454594954444959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]||d可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]3031543431413430[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]剩這樣,結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]44435154[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]黑犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_7]344411133031133331413330[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_7]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2015-9-20 08:57
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-19 21:53
不大對

这样如何？

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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]80704341[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]29074347[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]11194041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]||結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]r結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]4344706044431151434460504030483719295948291949594434511134545949544449594454594954444959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]||d可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]3031543431413430[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]剩這樣,結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]44435154[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]黑犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_16]11514344294744434837434759484744605040304959443451113454594954444959445459495444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_16][DhtmlXQ_comment37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment37][DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_5]4443515443335414303114113132111032311040[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_7]344411133031133331413330[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_9]3437394937475948474349394333394933434939433339493343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_9][DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]黑是否违规？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_10]5948444739494744495940306050443448393444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_11]40306050433348393343595843442947443458593433511133535949534349594353594953434959435359495343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_11][DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_38_12]444351554333472530315545[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_38_12][DhtmlXQ_comment11_52]黑是否违规？[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_52]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-20 10:14
根據6樓規則解釋,黑只有一個攻子,佔中是守和要訣要點,附帶捉相應該不算打,應該判和 吧? 這也 符合我說的黑卒不怕被吃,  除非規則認為黑車佔中不算 守和要點?
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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]80704341[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]11194041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]||結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]r結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]4344706044431151434460504030483719295948291949594434511134545949544449594454594954444959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]||d可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]3031543431413430[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]剩這樣,結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]44435154[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]黑犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_16]11514344294744434837434759484744605040304959443451113454594954444959445459495444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_5]4443515443335414303114113132111032311040[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_7]344411133031133331413330[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_9]3437394937475948474349394333394933434939433339493343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]黑是否违规？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_10]5948444739494744495940306050443448393444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_11]43446050403051564434483930315646[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]黑是否违规？[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_12]444351554333472530315545[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_12]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34822%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-9-21 20:08
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-20 10:14
根據6樓規則解釋,黑只有一個攻子,佔中是守和要訣要點,附帶捉相應該不算打,應該判和 吧? 這也 符合我說的黑 ...

陈先生您好，最近电脑坏了只能用手机回i复太难了
楼上思路正确但看法不正确确实要利用棋规取胜
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-22 01:56
如果27樓判紅勝,這樣也應判紅勝囉? 到底6樓說得正不正確呢 ?
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]8999294849594799999999809999999933999999309999999999990999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]水中捞月···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]80704341[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]29074347[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]11194041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]||結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]r結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]4344706044431151434460504030483719295948291949594434511134545949544449594454594954444959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]||d可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]3031543431413430[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]剩這樣,結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]44435154[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]黑犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_16]11514344294744434837434759484744605040304959443451113454594954444959445459495444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_5]4443515443335414303114113132111032311040[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_7]344411133031133331413330[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_22_9]3437394937475948474349394333394933434939433339493343[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_22_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]黑是否违规？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_23_10]5948444739494744495940306050443448393444[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_23_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_30_11]43446050403051564434483930315646[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_30_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_52]黑是否违规？[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_38_12]444351554333472530315545[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_38_12]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-22 02:00
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
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[DhtmlXQ_title]水中捞月···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]8984334384813040811109198070192947294030[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]80704341[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]29074347[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]11194041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]||結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_12]r結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]4344706044431151434460504030483719295948291949594434511134545949544449594454594954444959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]||d可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]3031543431413430[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]剩這樣,結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]44435154[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]黑犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_5]4443515443335414303114113132111032311040[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_7]344411133031133331413330[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_22_9]3437394937475948474349394333394933434939433339493343[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_22_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]黑是否违规？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_23_10]5948444739494744495940306050443448393444[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_23_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_30_11]43446050403051564434483930315646[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_30_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_52]黑是否违规？[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_38_12]444351554333472530315545[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_38_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_14_19_13]3151443448373444472944455948454439494443495940306050433348393343595843442947443458593433511133535949534349594353594953434959435359495343[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_19_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_14]4344706044431131434449394443294743443938444348394344315144343848344448384434384834444838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_14][DhtmlXQ_comment10]還有先出將如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-22 11:21
呵呵呵,這樣和了吧
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[DhtmlXQ_title]水中捞月···邢春波拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]89843343848130408111091980701929472940307060434460504443111730311737314149394344373141423130425250605251[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]80704341[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]29074347[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]11194041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]||結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_12]r結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]4344706044431151434460504030483719295948291949594434511134545949544449594454594954444959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]||d可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]3031543431413430[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_26_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]剩這樣,結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]44435154[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]黑犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_14_13_16]11514344294744434837434759484744605040304959443451113454594954444959445459495444[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_13_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_5]4443515443335414303114113132111032311040[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_7]344411133031133331413330[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_22_9]3437394937475948474349394333394933434939433339493343[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_22_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]黑是否违规？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_23_10]5948444739494744495940306050443448393444[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_23_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_30_11]43446050403051564434483930315646[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_30_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_52]黑是否违规？[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_38_12]444351554333472530315545[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_38_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_14_19_13]3151443448373444472944455948454439494443495940306050433348393343595843442947443458593433511133535949534349594353594953434959435359495343[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_19_13]
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作者: ★星海★    时间: 2015-9-22 15:40
手机发帖一点体会：
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要发动态棋谱，复制、粘贴操作需要摸索。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-24 10:39
這樣可維持原意走法,但結果仍需看規則如何解釋判定,大家對於 相關規則有何看法?
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-9-24 16:05
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-24 10:39
這樣可維持原意走法,但結果仍需看規則如何解釋判定,大家對於 相關規則有何看法?

这样改就简单了
首着红提高车是和棋
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-25 11:04
我的意思是這樣,還是回到規則判決的問題
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-25 16:33
35 樓走法還不精確,紅方如何精確調整成規則待判局面須修正,但是規則 卻又可能判和,有一種 做白工的感覺 呵呵呵
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-26 00:07
修飾走法,呵呵呵
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-9-26 12:53
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-26 00:07
修飾走法,呵呵呵

就是利用这个规则，黑犯规，须变看，变则必败
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2015-9-26 15:29
邢春波 发表于 2015-9-26 12:53
就是利用这个规则，黑犯规，须变看，变则必败

37#判和。查阅了《棋艺》杂志2014第9期66页有棋例通则，棋例通则26.2歀：守和方只有一个进攻子力时，占据守和要点，附带产生的捉士象按闲处理。
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-9-26 20:28
本帖最后由 邢春波 于 2015-10-7 21:24 编辑
杨启忠 发表于 2015-9-26 15:29
37#判和。查阅了《棋艺》杂志2014第9期66页有棋例通则，棋例通则26.2歀：守和方只有一个进攻子力时，占据 ...

这就本则棋例的微妙妙之处，若红方有中士黒就不是捉，无中士黑可带将吃相就判捉。这就是局名的来由，水中之月本是虚幻，就是有了这个规则红才可无中生有水中捞月
作者: zhaodi    时间: 2015-9-26 22:43
邢春波 发表于 2015-9-26 20:28
这就本则的微妙妙之处，若红方有中士黒就不是捉，无中士黑可带将吃士就判捉。这就是局名的来由，水中之月 ...
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-26 23:28
zhaodi 发表于 2015-9-26 22:43

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-26 23:35
挖咧 ,原來規則那麼複雜啊,呵呵呵呵呵,也好,這樣俺 就沒有做白工
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-27 00:36
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-27 00:48
邢春波 发表于 2015-9-26 20:28
这就本则的微妙妙之处，若红方有中士黒就不是捉，无中士黑可带将吃士就判捉。这就是局名的来由，水中之月 ...

還有疑問,附帶捉相若不算打,附帶抽仕也應不算打才合理,規則有無這方面更詳細的說明呢?
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-27 01:53
暈  ,或者說附帶抽邊相才對? 大陸規則太複雜,  不過都是單車佔據守和要點附帶捉抽仕相的範圍內, 判和應該有依據 ?
作者: zhaodi    时间: 2015-9-28 09:19
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-27 00:36

44楼第22回合

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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31] 紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_37] 紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]黑只有一攻子,是否判和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33] 黑只有一攻子,規則是否判和局呢\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_23]|| 參考主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]||||这样黑不犯规吧？[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment39] 冷一手[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-28 12:24
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2015-9-28 12:49 编辑

嗯,
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[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]結果看規則如何判定[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]棄卒有利規則判決[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31] 紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_37] 紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]黑只有一攻子,是否判和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33] 黑只有一攻子,規則是否判和局呢\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_23]|| 參考主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]||||这样黑不犯规吧？[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment39] 冷一手[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment44]!!這樣就沒有規則問題的和法[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-28 13:07
換一種思路看看,是否仍回到規則問題
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]結果看規則如何判定[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-28 13:36
原局也這樣走, 呵呵呵,兩局規則判決相不相同呢?
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]||結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]||d可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_15]||紅也無其他手段[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_26]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_10] 先出將如何\u003F好像可以避免規則糾紛的和法\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_10]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-28 13:58
呵呵呵,暈[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]結果看規則如何判定[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]規則怎麼判[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]||待研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-28 14:08
為了討論規則問題, 再改這樣[DhtmlXQ]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-28 14:16
還有 這樣,呵呵呵呵呵呵,晚點再來
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-28 17:33
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2015-9-28 17:34 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment27]||規則如何判[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]待研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-28 17:42
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-29 11:35
除了捉中相 之外,54樓比55樓還多了 附帶抽吃邊相(雖然黑 目的不在此),規則判決相同否? 我認為應該都判和局,除非規則另有解釋?

大家認為呢?
那麼黑棄卒就是關鍵了,不棄卒就判紅勝了
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-9-29 12:47
本帖最后由 邢春波 于 2015-10-7 21:23 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-29 11:35
除了捉中相 之外,54樓比55樓還多了 附帶抽吃邊相(雖然黑 目的不在此),規則判決相同否? 我認為應該都判和局 ...


1楼黑不能弃卒，红须设法吃掉此卒才能取胜。电脑还没修，等修好我用动态棋图来解释这个棋例
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-30 12:45
1樓 紅車進五按照31樓 簡明可和(過程黑棄卒換相),

紅 車進八若黑兌車則參考55樓變化(過程需棄卒)應判和,若
黑車平5可走成類似48樓變化, 黑棄不棄卒或紅主動吃不吃得到卒也許都能和

我的研究心得( 包括趙老師與楊老師等人指導)是如此  ,除非規則另有解釋,56 樓提出的規則疑問到底有沒有人能確切地回答我呢?
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-30 13:00
54  樓紅還有一種變化值得研究,不知是勝是和? 右底相與左底相是有差別的
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]||規則如何判[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]待研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-9-30 13:19
59樓好像也能和
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-10-7 21:19
以下是我对这个棋例判定的理解和认识，在棋图的着法之中，请大家指教
例一
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2015-10-8 20:45
本帖最后由 杨启忠 于 2015-10-8 20:48 编辑
邢春波 发表于 2015-10-7 21:19
以下是我对这个棋例判定的理解和认识，在棋图的着法之中，请大家指教
例一

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[DhtmlXQ_comment12]此时循环达3次，应对这个棋例进行判定。至于5回合红退车让黑白吃相后出现的结果，不在此棋例内。故根据棋例通则26.2款本楼判和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-10-8 21:27
杨启忠 发表于 2015-10-8 20:45

不是太明白杨老师的意思，循环达3次属于待判局面，红退车是对这个判定的解释。棋例通则26.2款是：守和方只有一个进攻子力时，占据守和要点，附带产生的捉士象按闲处理。怎样理解附带产生的捉士象是关键，例一毫无争议是附带的捉，因黑车不敢吃相。而例二是敢带将吃相的，应判捉，此棋例曾向裁判请教过，也判黑一将一捉。
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2015-10-9 12:16
邢春波 发表于 2015-10-8 21:27
不是太明白杨老师的意思，循环达3次属于待判局面，红退车是对这个判定的解释。棋例通则26.2款是：守和方只 ...

对棋例的判定，我十分外行，不太了解，实在抱歉！邢春波老师应该是正确的。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-10-9 12:32
我仍認為敢不敢吃相不是重點,黑方目的是佔據要點守和,不這麼走就無法守和,應該請教多幾位國家級裁判解說看看
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-10-9 12:50
規則條文只說附帶捉士相判和, 並沒有說敢吃判負,  不敢吃 判和,呵呵呵,  不需要做過多的解釋吧?

除非 規則修訂加上這些條文 ,那我也樂觀其成
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-10-9 13:40
邢兄61之第2圖與62樓的局面相同但判決卻矛盾了,呵呵呵

作者: zhaodi    时间: 2015-10-9 15:52
61楼第一图，黑第一回合除去车5平6，还可走车5平4和车5退2，可和。
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第2图，黑第一回合可走车5退2，可和。
作者: yjr123    时间: 2015-10-9 16:53
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-10-9 19:16
zhaodi 发表于 2015-10-9 15:52
61楼第一图，黑第一回合除去车5平6，还可走车5平4和车5退2，可和。

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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-10-9 19:24
本帖最后由 邢春波 于 2015-10-9 19:26 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2015-10-9 12:50
規則條文只說附帶捉士相判和, 並沒有說敢吃判負,  不敢吃 判和,呵呵呵,  不需要做過多的解釋吧?

除非  ...


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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-10-9 19:52
忘了還有47.48樓變化[DhtmlXQ]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-10-9 20:00
邢春波 发表于 2015-10-9 19:24

喔喔喔................大陸規則真的太複雜,但是69樓的2圖也是能吃象,為何又判和局呢?
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-10-9 20:04
還有54與55樓局末該如何判?
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2015-10-9 20:15
聨吟客 发表于 2015-10-9 20:04
還有54與55樓局末該如何判?

69楼2图与例一相同
54楼与55楼要看黑能不能吃相，能吃判捉不能吃判闲
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-10-9 20:16
聨吟客 发表于 2015-10-9 20:00
喔喔喔................大陸規則真的太複雜,但是69樓的2圖也是能吃象,為何又判和局呢?

  喔,看錯了, 69 樓2圖不能吃象,所以判和
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-10-9 20:21
那54與55樓也不能吃相應判和囉?
作者: zhaodi    时间: 2015-10-10 08:28
邢春波 发表于 2015-10-9 19:16

回复70楼

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第二图见72楼。



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