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标题: 老局再研究 [打印本页]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 05:26
标题: 老局再研究
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-12-1 05:28 编辑

此局勢以前台北市的一位江湖棋人擺的, 三十年來我都還未研究透徹 ,曾經以為可和, 也曾在網站發表好像也沒啥人討論,這兩天再研究發現似乎難和?
請教各位老師, 正確走法結論為何呢?
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 05:45
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 05:49
大家幫忙挖掘看看紅有無更頑強走法呢

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 06:24
以前我改成下圖,是為了加深別的變化,但效果不太大, 現發現似乎可以用在樓上的變化, 呵呵呵,那真是意外的驚喜 ?? 以前尚未命名, 如今取個新局名

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 10:39
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-12-1 10:54 编辑

變化依然不少大家看看有沒有問題

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 11:18
這樣可讓紅炮四退八的陷阱變化更好, 但不知會不會影響到別的變化?
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 11:30
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 11:50
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 14:05
如果成立,我很滿意

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]42523037[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]5058303151413132588874444959106088824442626142436160384846456757[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_6]1121313260103848495974545878675778585758[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_4]49487444[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23] 紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_5]212774444232443432423033675733432728484957584939282346452343344443444544[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_5][DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7]425244545242305027265456[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7][DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_8]2128303828277434275734365756382867572838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_8][DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_10]282674444232443432423836[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_10][DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]紅不敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29][DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9]42523837[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9][DhtmlXQ_move_8_24_11]67573837[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_24_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_12]212646452625304042324434323140432535454467574333314144433545493957473454474843530220334345435343[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_12][DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13]30342545493967573938[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13][DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]可能也和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_55]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_55]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_50_14]382853335848464828484948[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_50_14][DhtmlXQ_comment66]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D36682%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 20:03
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-12-1 20:07 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-12-11 10:13:46[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-12-11 10:13:46[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
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[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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[DhtmlXQ_sortid]7293640[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]5010303111213132603032426252585230404232103038484948525140445121443432423474212674444232443432423437264648384648383967683040482837474252473768584049[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]525130385121403032423848744448446757303657584939212844454241363141403136022036304041303641513631515231362042363342203336281836322042323342203336[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]42523037[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]5058303151413132588874444959106088824442626142436160384846456757[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_6]1121313260103848495974545878675778585758[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_4]49487444[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23] 紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_5]212774444232443432423033675733432728484957584939282346452343344443444544[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7]425244545242305027265456[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_8]2128303828277434275734365756382867572838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_10]282674444232443432423836[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]紅不敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9]42523837[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_24_11]67573837[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_24_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_12]212646452625304042324434323140432535454467574333314144433545493957473454474843530220334345435343[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13]30342545493967573938[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]可能也和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]這樣簡明[/DhtmlXQ_comment35][DhtmlXQ_comment37]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D36682%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-12-11 10:13:46[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-12-11 10:13:46[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]河炮狼關(二) 陳明仁[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]126[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]7293640[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]50103031112131326030324262525852304042321030384849485251404451214434324234742126744442324434324234372646483846483839676830404828374742524737685840495251373828383938[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]525130385121403032423848744448446757303657584939212844454241363141403136022036304041303641513631515231362042363342203336281836322042323342203336[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]42523037[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]5058303151413132588874444959106088824442626142436160384846456757[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_6]1121313260103848495974545878675778585758[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_4]49487444[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23] 紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_5]212774444232443432423033675733432728484957584939282346452343344443444544[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7]425244545242305027265456[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_8]2128303828277434275734365756382867572838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_10]282674444232443432423836[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]紅不敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9]42523837[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_24_11]67573837[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_24_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_12]212646452625304042324434323140432535454467574333314144433545493957473454474843530220334345435343[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13]30342545493967573938[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]可能也和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]這樣簡明[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D36682%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2016-12-1 20:20
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949999999809950996251461110998299309999995803993867999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-12-11 10:13:46[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-12-11 10:13:46[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]炮打两狼关[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]5010303111213132803032426252585230404232103038484948525140435121433332423303212703434232433332424838675730705747[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]52513038512140303242384803434843424146456757454457584939212830314140313382643334404134334140[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_32_2]675738372728373828273837[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_32_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3]2128303828260343425243442627443427263444262744342726344426274434[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_25_34_11]424145448264444328274353272853432827435327285343[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_34_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_25_35_13]795927473335424159494757[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_35_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_42_14]5759424151523332[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_42_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_25_36_12]27574443425243425251794948493949574749394742[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_36_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_25_40_15]2747334347435343[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_40_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_25_40_16]60425352[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_40_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_25_42_17]2827435327285343[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_42_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_25_43_18]79494260495960425949426049592827435327285343[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_43_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_25_36_19]2747444342414353[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_36_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_46_23]1812426241516269[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_46_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_52_24]1232673732223777[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_52_24]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_4]67680747263630203626203042324737324237474232473732423747[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_24_5]6768304046360737361637474252474568583837161937381916383752514544[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_24_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_6]48463938[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_44_7]5141404218193938191242624151626712183837184846485848[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_44_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_44_8]515046421810424310204344[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_44_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_44_20]5848464818484048[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_44_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_46_21]5150424510204544[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_46_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_48_22]3020493920104245[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_48_22]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]278[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]126[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]7293640[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_30]這樣可能黑勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_60]|| 黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_60]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_10]425243535242305027265356[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_30_30_25]5758707958484645282745444241444382604353272853436042434241423343425243335242334342524333[/DhtmlXQ_move_30_30_25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_30_55_27]553578585949585943426042[/DhtmlXQ_move_30_55_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_30_57_28]4333604259494838[/DhtmlXQ_move_30_57_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_30_59_29]59494838[/DhtmlXQ_move_30_59_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_30_31_26]46452878[/DhtmlXQ_move_30_31_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_30]272838395747707928787949474846457879334342524353524249597978534342524333787933535242454442414443826053557978554578584353604245485848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]这样如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D36681[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 20:37
變化太多須不斷修正

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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-12-11 10:13:46[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-12-11 10:13:46[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]河炮狼關(二) 陳明仁[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]278[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]126[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]7293640[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]501030311121313260303242625258523040423210303848494852514044512144343242347421283038282774342757343657563828675728265655363757584838552537362505260605250626[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]525130385121403032423848744448446757303657584939212844454241363141403136022036304041303641513631515231362042363342203336281836322042323342203336[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_2]42523037[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]5058303151413132588874444959106088824442626142436160384846456757[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_6]1121313260103848495974545878675778585758[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_4]49487444[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23] 紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_8]2126744442324434324234372646483846483839676830404828374742524737685840495251373828383938[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_8][DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_5]212774444232443432423033675733432728484957584939282346452343344443444544[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7]425244545242305027265456[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]紅不敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9]42523837[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_12]212646452625304042324434323140432535454467574333314144433545493957473454474843530220334345435343[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13]30342545493967573938[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]可能也和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_35]這樣簡明[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_10]282674444232443432423836[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_11]675738372728373828273837[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_15]2838566638286667483857473632424132366765363141403136652528262505262805083626080728270705263605083839474827290828[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_15][DhtmlXQ_comment29]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_45_17]2606055506085525[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_45_17][DhtmlXQ_comment39]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_14]5755363767573828[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_14][DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]紅不敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 20:48

邢春波发表于 2016-12-1 20:20

感謝邢兄,1樓走法有問題, 2樓已修正,目前認為黑勝

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2016-12-1 21:14

聨吟客发表于 2016-12-1 05:45

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 21:18
再看看

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 21:26
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 21:39
好像又能和?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 21:45
好累,今天午餐晚餐都沒吃,為了搞這幾個局............... 呵呵呵

好久沒有這樣了.................

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 21:49
又傷腦筋了,呵呵呵............... 先休息吃個東西再說吧............

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 22:03
12樓也黑勝

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-1 23:33
炮退底頑強?

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-2 04:23
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-12-2 04:38 编辑

邢春波发表于 2016-12-1 21:14

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[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]應這樣紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_36]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_47]亞洲規則和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_47]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment26_36]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_47]亞洲規則和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment26_48]黑變可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_48]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment39_55]||這裡用亞規作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_55]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-2 04:56
還有沒有問題呢

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-2 05:06
還是不行, 黑有象好像能勝,參考23樓變化
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]这样如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment21]||這樣看看[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]能和否\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_47]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_47]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_44]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_31]亞規和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_31]
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作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2016-12-2 07:43
   传统的“炮炸两狼关”我在《民间排局》中学习研究过。有两局相似局，一局首着要走炮四退八打6路黑车，一局首着要走炮四平八打2路黑车。

   陈先生的这局没见过。你一人一下子列出如此多的着法，让人望而生畏。
   红方第八步改走炮六退一，保兵，如何？

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-2 09:02
感謝寒士關注, 百24有入選我的新狼關,炮四退八為正著, 呵呵

而且沒有舊局的規則問題我自己也滿意

1樓局勢是30年前台北市一位江湖棋人擺的( 他在台北擺攤，是否是住台北我沒有問)
當時我才十幾歲

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-2 09:11
應該早點拿這局走法來參考,多象有無影響呢?

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[DhtmlXQ_event]江湖八大排局[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]炮炸两狼关[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2000-10-10[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_place]重庆市巫山县[/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]龚伟[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]龚伟[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]24[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]o江湖棋侠o[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]o江湖棋侠o[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0] 本局原载《蕉竹斋象棋谱》（第78局）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1] 炮轰哪一只车，大有讲究。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12] 黑方送卒，系谋和关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_54] 和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36] 和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28] 误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_37] 好！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_39] 红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_15] 误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40] 黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_26] 黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_12] 误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_19] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_17] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_27] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_33] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_33] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_8] 误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_13] 红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_16] 黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_8] 黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_8] 黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_8][DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]574748582728585947484544424153434131445431305453[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-2 15:12
依樣畫葫蘆應該可以

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-2 15:26
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-12-2 23:02 编辑

迟暮寒士发表于 2016-12-2 07:43
传统的“炮炸两狼关”我在《民间排局》中学习研究过。有两局相似局，一局首着要走炮四退八打6路黑车， ...

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-2 15:33
這局就待研究了

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_2]42523037[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]5058303151413132588874444959106088824442626142436160384846456757[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_4]49487444[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23] 紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_20_8]2126744442324434324234372646483846483839676830404828374742524737685840495251373828383938[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_20_5]212774444232443432423033675733432728484957584939282346452343344443444544[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_20_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7]425244545242305027265456[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]紅不敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9]42523837[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_12]212646452625304042324434323140432535454467574333314144433545493957473454474843530220334345435343[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13]30342545493967573938[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]可能也和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_35]這樣簡明[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_22_10]282674444232443432423836[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_22_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_11]675738372728373828273837[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_29_15]2838566638286667483857473632424132366765363141403136652528262505262805083626080728270705263605083839474827290828[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_29_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_29]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_45_17]2606055506085525[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_45_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_39]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_14]5755363767573828[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]紅不敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_16]4044512144343242347421283038282774342757343657563828675728265655363757584838552537362505260605250626[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_16][DhtmlXQ_comment15]待研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-2 15:41
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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_2]42523037[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23] 紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7]425244545242305027265456[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_22_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]紅不敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9]42523837[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13]30342545493967573938[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_23_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]可能也和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_35]這樣簡明[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_22_10]282674444232443432423836[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_22_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_11]675738372728373828273837[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_24_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_29_15]2838566638286667483857473632424132366765363141403136652528262505262805083626080728270705263605083839474827290828[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_29_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_29]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_45_17]2606055506085525[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_45_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_39]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_14]5755363767573828[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]紅不敗[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment15]待研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]||這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-12-2 16:15
我改得並不理想,黑炮仍後退一步較精采,但也只是把陷阱的策略性修飾, 正解仍依照那個搜索到的走法走

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2019-5-14 23:00
本人近日又对该局进行了一些拆解。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-5-18 18:27

chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-5-14 23:00
本人近日又对该局进行了一些拆解。

歡迎共同研究
有何新發現沒有?

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2019-5-20 13:03
发在我的另外一个贴子炮打两狼关一路变化中。

主要是对蕉竹斋中炮打两狼关（二）（黑卒在8路）第6回合黑应以卒4平5这一路变化又进行了拆解。发现目前现有诠注本中的着法可能有问题。感觉还未拆解透切。

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