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标题: 象棋排局新編之雪中送炭 [打印本页]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2017-11-13 18:49
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2017-11-14 15:04
原谱走法第33回合不走车8平5兑车，走其它着也可和。

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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2017-11-14 19:05
用兵换马感觉棋规应该判闲。可走。红方也不能强变，其它走法基本上都输棋。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2017-11-14 19:26
龙驹凤雏
11. 车五退四  卒４平５
12. 车五进二  炮８平６
13. 车五平四  将４平５
红可接走14. 帅四进一

黑三子被拴，红胜。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2017-11-14 19:46
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2017-11-14 20:05 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment22]应先平炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]好象红可胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]黑三子被拴，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]原谱走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]这样机会好像多一些[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]感觉这次应走车五平七。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]黑优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]原谱走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_18]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2017-11-14 19:46
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[DhtmlXQ_comment35] 捉卒[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]欲以兵換馬[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]黑如選擇不變||大陸規則如何判||紅方有無犯規呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]而紅方變著又會如何||||红输。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]也输。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]准备兑车。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_38]應這樣仍可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_82]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_78]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_62]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_63]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_75]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]原谱和法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_76]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]拴住马就红胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_26]可还原到主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_41]同主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_29]拴住马就红胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]
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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-11-9 02:10
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=26826
这个贴子，
第16着炮8退1变的着法是正确地。
为什么书出版后的着法不对？

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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-11-9 02:42
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... id=26016&extra=
终于找到第8回合黑炮8退1变后续着法产生失误的原因了，
就是上面的贴子，4楼拟着正确，而39楼却随手了。
直接导致《象棋精巧实用杀法》与《象棋排局精编》二书主变着法有错误。

作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-11-9 02:44
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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-11-9 02:47
上面是原4楼
下面是原39楼

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]“古婺”的《小龙驹》---，凌云子再修订。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_49]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_34]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_18]
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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-11-9 14:04
当年提供稿供如下，炮8退1变无误。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]“龙驹凤雏”《晋书·陆云传》：“幼时吴尚书广陵闵鸿见而奇之，曰：‘此儿若非龙驹，当是凤雏。’”||原作者为朱小坚先生，演成黑胜，甚为遗憾，张云川先生进行了修改，后经敖日西先生再次修订后成为如图形势，终成和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]余俊瑞提出的着法！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_26]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_31]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_18]
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写稿时，直接采用《象棋精巧实用杀法》的此局旧谱。

经历一天一夜翻看无数旧贴，终于破案。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2022-11-10 13:06

凌云子发表于 2022-11-9 14:04
当年提供稿供如下，炮8退1变无误。
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=35508&extr ...

这个局是《象棋精巧实用杀法》第几局

作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-11-10 13:15
第4章第19局小龙驹(二)。
即第141页

作者: yjr123 时间: 2022-11-10 13:43

凌云子发表于 2022-11-10 13:15
第4章第19局小龙驹(二)。
即第141页

和赵殿忠的书名搞混了，《象棋精巧实用杀法》没有加入搜索。

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