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标题: 此局（碧海游弋--少子百局谱）讨论过吗？ [打印本页]

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-26 09:19
标题: 此局（碧海游弋--少子百局谱）讨论过吗？
少子百局谱中的一局，有过讨论吗？很精彩，但似乎黑可和。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-26 09:39
我記得有人貼出討論過

忘了是華工或智弈

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-26 09:50
是華工

我在書上有註記 補充兩變 都紅勝
呵呵呵

但沒有17回合平炮變化

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作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2021-12-26 09:54
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71]如下图\[/DhtmlXQ_comment71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]“碧海游弋”裘望禹著，朱鹤洲校，少子百局谱，蜀蓉棋艺出版社，成都，1996年，第168页。原谱着法\[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99]红胜。依据：“胜者速胜，负者迟负的原则”，笔者将考虑黑方作为切入点，同时用结构分析的方法，从战略层面来考虑着法。在第36回合，红方走炮六平四之后的局面，如下图所示。先对下图进行局面分析，按照崔鸿传的结构分析（少子百局谱，第222页）“为中变阶段”，“擒帅头马”倒数第3个回合。红炮吃了在帅上面的黑马，就进入了最后阶段。此时，黑马必死无疑，而红方为了吃黑炮，一红炮不得不离开主战场到黑方的底线。根据这样的情况，黑方正确的战略方针应该 是：弃马，抓紧时机组成新的防线，（1）黑将抢占中路控制权；（2）用黑炮阻拦红炮“回到主战场”。红方的战略方针则是针锋相对，（1）将后方的红炮开赴前线，策应在黑方底线的红炮突围，撤退到卒林线；（2）用双炮夺取黑将手中的中路控制权。如此，笔者在裘老原着法的基础上增加了一个战略阶段，即：从“中变阶段”到“残局阶段”的“过渡阶段”。局限之所在，是黑方组成新的防线与红方“破防”之争》（钱俊，象棋中局杀法，人民体育出版社，北京，1986年，第123页）基于这样的考虑，笔者拟出双方的着法如下图\[/DhtmlXQ_comment99]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-26 10:39

chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-12-26 09:54

这个是研究必胜残局缓负的问题，意义不大。
17回合平炮既可退炮保马，又可防止底兵右移。

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-26 11:15

yjr123 发表于 2021-12-26 10:39
这个是研究必胜残局缓负的问题，意义不大。
17回合平炮既可退炮保马，又可防止底兵右移。

看似簡單平淡的棋卻
二十幾年來無人發現 ?(以公開發表為準)

現才被余兄詮正
學習了

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作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2021-12-26 11:54
黑马基本上是死的，红方是先保证底兵活着。不会急着打马。

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-26 13:11

chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-12-26 11:54
黑马基本上是死的，红方是先保证底兵活着。不会急着打马。

此局的关键就是吃马后还能够保住底兵，原局的构思就是底兵右移，最后关头被黑平炮给破解了。

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作者: wolaikk    时间: 2021-12-26 16:06
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-26 16:30

wolaikk 发表于 2021-12-26 16:06

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-26 17:17
云库是采用穷举法，因此在规则范围内给出的着法是可信度极高的，但这个局面在云库中没有，是调用引擎经过快速计算给出的着法，不可靠。
原局构思底兵右移是个思路，那如何逼黑将上顶楼？

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作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2021-12-26 17:51


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[DhtmlXQ_comment21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]黑将在二路线不动了。炮在底走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45]双炮逼黑将上顶思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]以下黑炮怎样应不用管。红方双炮逼将上顶，红兵再平移的思路||||黑炮如果没有机会放在将后，红兵不一定要平移，可以想法灭马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]打马思路也和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]直接红兵平移思路行不通。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]这样红兵是无法右移的，那么只能打掉黑马了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_99]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_24]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-26 20:59

chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-12-26 17:51

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[DhtmlXQ_comment21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]黑将在二路线不动了。炮在底走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_45]双炮逼黑将上顶思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_46]以下黑炮怎样应不用管。红方双炮逼将上顶，红兵再平移的思路||||黑炮如果没有机会放在将后，红兵不一定要平移，可以想法灭马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]打马思路也和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]直接红兵平移思路行不通。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]这样红兵是无法右移的，那么只能打掉黑马了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_99]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_24]
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作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2021-12-26 21:22


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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]yjr123提出的新招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]黑将在二路线不动了。炮在底走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45]双炮逼黑将上顶思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]以下黑炮怎样应不用管。红方双炮逼将上顶，红兵再平移的思路||||黑炮如果没有机会放在将后，红兵不一定要平移，可以想法灭马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]兵还是不能平移。和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]打马思路也和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]直接红兵平移思路行不通。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这样红兵是无法右移的，那么只能打掉黑马了[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]阻止红双炮同侧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_43]这样红双炮是可同侧，但还是没办法便兵平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]红还是没有效办法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]这样双炮虽然能同侧，但没法使老将上顶。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_36]其实可以直接这样。让红随便调整阵形。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_99]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-26 21:32

chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-12-26 21:22

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]黑将在二路线不动了。炮在底走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]双炮逼黑将上顶思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]以下黑炮怎样应不用管。红方双炮逼将上顶，红兵再平移的思路||||黑炮如果没有机会放在将后，红兵不一定要平移，可以想法灭马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]打马思路也和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_45]直接红兵平移思路行不通。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]这样红兵是无法右移的，那么只能打掉黑马了[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_99]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-26 21:47
這樣有沒有手段
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[DhtmlXQ_comment34]yjr123提出的新招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]黑将在二路线不动了。炮在底走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]双炮逼黑将上顶思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]以下黑炮怎样应不用管。红方双炮逼将上顶，红兵再平移的思路||||黑炮如果没有机会放在将后，红兵不一定要平移，可以想法灭马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]打马思路也和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_45]直接红兵平移思路行不通。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]这样红兵是无法右移的，那么只能打掉黑马了[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_99]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
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作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2021-12-26 22:21
不错，我发到群里让他们解一下。

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作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2021-12-27 09:22


东萍网中发现我收藏有一局同名的。经查是百花齐放第13集中的。和这局一样作为红胜，我诠作为和局后保存在那儿。好象是去年保存的
这局棋图应该是少子百局那局稍作调整的，是不是发现少子中的那局有问题而改的。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0][fen=4P4/2c6/3k5/9/9/9/9/4K4/4C4/3C5 b - - 20 48]原谱红胜着法。[/fen]||||该局选自百花齐放第13集[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]可能这步较顽强一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]暂作和。红方没有必胜招着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_13]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_30]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_5]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_6]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_26]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_26]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-27 11:21

chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-12-27 09:22
东萍网中发现我收藏有一局同名的。经查是百花齐放第13集中的。和这局一样作为红胜，我诠作为和局后保存在那 ...

这个应该是"碧海游弋“局作者自己的一个修改版本，原着法和少子谱基本一致，到底是哪局在前，看2谱的出版日期。

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-28 10:54
所以16樓會如何呢  是勝是和?

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-28 11:32

聨吟客 发表于 2021-12-28 10:54
所以16樓會如何呢  是勝是和?

目的是红炮左移？左移后就能够赢？
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作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2021-12-28 12:00
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]yjr123提出的新招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]以下怎么拟招无多大关系，主要是红方思路是否行的通。就是红方双炮同时到一边下底助兵平移，黑方能否阻止红方这个思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]黑将在二路线不动了。炮在底走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45]双炮逼黑将上顶思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]以下黑炮怎样应不用管。红方双炮逼将上顶，红兵再平移的思路||||黑炮如果没有机会放在将后，红兵不一定要平移，可以想法灭马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]兵还是不能平移。和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]忽然想到红方可以这样助兵平移，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]打马思路也和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]直接红兵平移思路行不通。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这样红兵是无法右移的，那么只能打掉黑马了[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]阻止红双炮同侧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_43]这样双炮虽然能同侧，但没法使老将上顶。||||后来想到了双炮同时下底的思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_57]忽然想到红方可以这样助兵平移，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]这样红双炮还是可同侧，[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_36]其实可以直接这样。让红随便调整阵形。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_99]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]
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想到了一个思路，虽然没法让黑将上顶,但双炮可同时左侧下底助兵平移，

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-28 13:17

chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-12-28 12:00
想到了一个思路，虽然没法让黑将上顶,但双炮可同时左侧下底助兵平移，

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[DhtmlXQ_comment21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]yjr123提出的新招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]以下怎么拟招无多大关系，主要是红方思路是否行的通。就是红方双炮同时到一边下底助兵平移，黑方能否阻止红方这个思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]黑将在二路线不动了。炮在底走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45]双炮逼黑将上顶思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]以下黑炮怎样应不用管。红方双炮逼将上顶，红兵再平移的思路||||黑炮如果没有机会放在将后，红兵不一定要平移，可以想法灭马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]兵还是不能平移。和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]忽然想到红方可以这样助兵平移，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]打马思路也和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]直接红兵平移思路行不通。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这样红兵是无法右移的，那么只能打掉黑马了[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]阻止红双炮同侧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_43]这样双炮虽然能同侧，但没法使老将上顶。||||后来想到了双炮同时下底的思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_57]忽然想到红方可以这样助兵平移，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]这样红双炮还是可同侧，[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_36]其实可以直接这样。让红随便调整阵形。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_99]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-28 14:37
喔嗯

紅炮左移也勝不了

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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2021-12-30 11:43
《百花22集》余老师曾参与过，其末尾范椿所诠“对排局碧海游弋的着法研究“，是从已将红兵移至三路底线开始诠释的，演成红炮可兜底打马取胜。但不知是如何将底兵移至三路底线的。

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-30 12:16

老鸽子 发表于 2021-12-30 11:43
《百花22集》余老师曾参与过，其末尾范椿所诠“对排局碧海游弋的着法研究“，是从已将红兵移至三路底线开始 ...

百22谱中不是已经列出完整的原着法吗？1楼17回合黑炮5退1后红兵就可以右移了。

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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2021-12-30 13:35
可否利用棋规取胜？

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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2021-12-30 13:36
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-30 13:47

杨启忠 发表于 2021-12-30 13:35
可否利用棋规取胜？

红方一将一要抽，黑方长捉，双方不变作和。

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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2021-12-30 14:11

yjr123 发表于 2021-12-30 13:47
红方一将一要抽，黑方长捉，双方不变作和。

22回改进一下呢？

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-30 14:35

杨启忠 发表于 2021-12-30 14:11
22回改进一下呢？

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-30 14:55

yjr123 发表于 2021-12-30 13:47
红方一将一要抽，黑方长捉，双方不变作和。

如果用亞洲規則
紅勝?
(民間慣例不予考慮)

黑有無辦法防止紅走成這樣
以確保用亞規也是和局呢

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-30 15:03

聨吟客 发表于 2021-12-30 14:55
如果用亞洲規則
紅勝?
(民間慣例不予考慮)

看31楼

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-30 15:13

yjr123 发表于 2021-12-30 15:03
看31楼

嗯

升炮擋輕鬆化解

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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2021-12-30 16:27

yjr123 发表于 2021-12-30 14:35

20回提前进炮如何

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-30 17:37
楊兄高
黑炮改平7看看
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]與平8差不多[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34][DhtmlXQ_comment34]這樣好一點\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-12-30 19:53
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[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_13_42_14]6030818050518030[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_42_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]與平8差不多[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]這樣好一點\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_17]47428088426277786260[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_17][DhtmlXQ_comment32]这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2021-12-31 10:14

yjr123 发表于 2021-12-30 19:53

压缩黑炮空间，看看

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[DhtmlXQ_comment21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_13_42_14]6030818050518030[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_42_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]與平8差不多[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]這樣好一點\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_17]47428088426277786260[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_18]77704842[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_18]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-31 12:58
36樓呢

紅如何壓?

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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2021-12-31 23:41


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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]裘望禹[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]红胜势||||||下次解[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]18082707[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_3]17072717[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_4]5152[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]下次解[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]见10回合主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_5]3818[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]劣||||下次解[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_6]3808[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]劣||||下次解[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]别留边给黑方！||||等一步先[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_7]4847606647676606[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_7]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_54_9]86886867[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_54_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]这里又是太复杂了……[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_10]1611171627215150212050511110164630405141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]走了很久很久，黑有的是办法守和的！||||从此开始[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]解这局花了大量时间，不想走太多分支了，变着你们自己去走吧！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment80]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_79_11]8070[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_79_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_12]76778588776766766777886852516867515276715251676151506160505171707747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_70]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_70]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_67_13]7670525167607747[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_67_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_74]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_79]和炮平线还有机会赢！||||可惜最后是个和棋。||||下次研究下双炮左边进攻试试，想着炮跑右边去了，左边没太花时间去考虑。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_79]
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从17点钟左右到现在，晚饭都没吃在玩这局。

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-12-31 23:58

剑影¤独步 发表于 2021-12-31 23:41
从17点钟左右到现在，晚饭都没吃在玩这局。

劍兄

我陪你在電腦前倒計時

迎接2022年

呵呵呵

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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2022-1-1 00:12

聨吟客 发表于 2021-12-31 23:58
劍兄

我陪你在電腦前倒計時

元旦快乐…………

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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2022-1-1 00:28
右边攻不下，下次多花些时间试试左边看看。

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-1-1 10:41
大家元旦快樂

40樓37回合就是36樓的局面

以黑方求和而言36樓簡明

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-1-1 10:48

剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-1 00:28
右边攻不下，下次多花些时间试试左边看看。

左攻可參考余先生23樓走法

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-1-1 11:44

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-1 10:41
大家元旦快樂

40樓37回合就是36樓的局面

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-1-1 12:12

yjr123 发表于 2022-1-1 11:44

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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]裘望禹[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]红兵右移可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]505170784741676851523040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1][DhtmlXQ_comment8]這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-1-1 12:22
或42回合局面時進將較好?
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[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]红胜势||||下次解[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]红胜势||||||下次解[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]18082707[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_3]17072717[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_4]5152[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]下次解[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]见10回合主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_5]3818[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]劣||||下次解[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_6]3808[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]劣||||下次解[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]别留边给黑方！||||等一步先[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_7]4847606647676606[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_50_8]6665676651524547[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_50_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_54_9]86886867[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_54_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]这里又是太复杂了……[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_10]1611171627215150212050511110164630405141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]走了很久很久，黑有的是办法守和的！||||从此开始[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]解这局花了大量时间，不想走太多分支了，变着你们自己去走吧！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment80]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_79_11]8070[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_79_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_12]76778588776766766777886852516867515276715251676151506160505171707747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_70]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_70]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_67_13]7670525167607747[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_67_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_74]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_79]和炮平线还有机会赢！||||可惜最后是个和棋。||||下次研究下双炮左边进攻试试，想着炮跑右边去了，左边没太花时间去考虑。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_79]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_84_14]8444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_84_14][DhtmlXQ_comment84]||這樣較好\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment84]
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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2022-1-1 15:36

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-1 12:22
或42回合局面時進將較好?

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[DhtmlXQ_title]碧海游弋（40楼最后局面）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]裘望禹[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]红兵右移可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3]哦……[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2022-1-1 16:16

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-1 12:22
或42回合局面時進將較好?

是的…………

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-1-1 16:53

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-1 12:12

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[DhtmlXQ_title]碧海游弋（40楼最后局面）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]裘望禹[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-1-1 17:03
调整先后手

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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]裘望禹[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_9_38_5]51508880505130407060405060625060[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_38_5]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_10]515071705051[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_10][DhtmlXQ_comment46]黑方长捉，红方一将一闲，由黑方变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46][DhtmlXQ_comment47]底兵右移可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment47]
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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2022-1-1 18:41

yjr123 发表于 2022-1-1 17:03
调整先后手

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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]裘望禹[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]黑方长捉，红方一将一闲，由黑方变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_47]底兵右移可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_11]47428088426277786260203060707871708088815150717050517071515071705051707151523040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_11][DhtmlXQ_comment30]然后？[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2022-1-7 09:20

聨吟客 发表于 2021-12-30 17:37
楊兄高
黑炮改平7看看

36楼，这样看看：

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[DhtmlXQ_comment21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]與平8差不多[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]這樣好一點\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-1-7 10:15
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[DhtmlXQ_comment21_32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2022-1-7 10:43

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-7 10:15

前面，红棋走得不够简洁，7回退二路炮，较好：

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]與平8差不多[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_34]這樣好一點\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_34]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-1-7 11:05

杨启忠 发表于 2022-1-7 10:43
前面，红棋走得不够简洁，7回退二路炮，较好：

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]與平8差不多[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2022-1-7 11:10

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-7 11:05

17回直接打马：

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]與平8差不多[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_34]這樣好一點\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_34]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22_32]是否仍需這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_32]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment24_38]||黑並無犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_24]707763607770606270776260[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_24][DhtmlXQ_comment35]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment35][DhtmlXQ_comment33]||应这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-1-7 11:17
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]先暂放弃吃被禁锢的死马，来谋求吃活着的角马，考虑正确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]與平8差不多[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_34]這樣好一點\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_34]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22_32]是否仍需這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_32]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment24_38]||黑並無犯規[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_25_33_24]707763607770606270776260[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_33_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_33]||应这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_25]6063707863608858[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_25][DhtmlXQ_comment32]進將\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2022-1-7 11:28

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-7 11:17

参考54#，陈兄能够搞定的！

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-1-7 11:38

杨启忠 发表于 2022-1-7 11:28
参考54#，陈兄能够搞定的！

勝法精妙

楊兄辛苦了

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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2022-1-7 19:17

杨启忠 发表于 2022-1-7 09:20
36楼，这样看看：

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[DhtmlXQ_remark]裘望禹[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]摆子中……[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]摆子中……[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]已摆好||||黑先[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]摆子中……||||另一局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]黑直接炮7平8拦住就可以了||||||炮7平5也可以[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-1-8 18:58

杨启忠 发表于 2022-1-7 09:20
36楼，这样看看：

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[DhtmlXQ_comment21]拦炮，必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]如改走炮5平3，则炮一退八，以下变化同正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]这样如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]前面几步红方表面想横打被困之马，其实是谋求底兵右移。现在黑方被逼升将退炮保马，底兵就可安然右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]这几步红方又采用表面想打横打被困之马，来谋求进炮将底打掉黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]打黑马前的必要过门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]双炮无底兵则和单炮，有底兵则胜，但要防止红炮在宫处被黑炮拦住，不能进宫做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]红底炮被封，红底兵难平右翼，红方一时难胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]與平8差不多[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]這樣好一點\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-1-18 02:54


查到一个有点相似的局，”碧海游弋“可能改自此局，但着法却大不相同，没什么参考价值。此局名叫”炮舞龙蛇“，据说原载台湾《高雄棋园》，李凤凯拟局。1984年收入内地排局丛刊《陶情弈趣》，1987年徐家亮、苏德龙《象棋排局百花谱》也收入此局。两谱的着法仅末尾几个回合不同，后者更佳。《陶情弈趣》的着法可以搜出来。

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-1-18 11:45

老鸽子 发表于 2022-1-18 02:54
查到一个有点相似的局，”碧海游弋“可能改自此局，但着法却大不相同，没什么参考价值。此局名叫”炮舞龙蛇 ...

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