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标题: 偷樑換柱改局 [打印本页]
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-3-17 18:40
标题: 偷樑換柱改局
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-3-17 18:44
原局
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-3-17 18:49
無假象陷阱  不屬江湖類型局 所以歸類排局雜談

呵呵呵呵呵   我喜歡雜談二字
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-3-17 21:49
聨吟客 发表于 2022-3-17 18:44
原局

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]“偷梁换柱”原局与这局没什么区别，从那里弄来的？[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-3-18 08:52
東萍棋盤有收錄
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-3-21 20:15
聨吟客 发表于 2022-3-18 08:52
東萍棋盤有收錄

对《百局》、《象局汇存》之“跃马还乡”的改局，目前多是在黑方七路加卒或象，阻挡红车沉底杀，其它改局很少。
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-3-22 01:12
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]选自《百花4集》“塞外江南”，新疆喀什琉勒县宋克俭拟局。为便于比较，这里采用第四回合后之图势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment39]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-3-22 01:35
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-3-23 09:48 编辑

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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-3-23 10:13
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-3-23 11:03 编辑

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-3-23 10:35
謝鴿兄
我研究的脫帽走法
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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2022-3-23 11:24
本帖最后由 剑影¤独步 于 2022-3-23 11:30 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2022-3-23 10:35
謝鴿兄
我研究的脫帽走法

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-3-23 11:28
呵呵呵

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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2022-3-23 11:33
本帖最后由 剑影¤独步 于 2022-3-23 14:00 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2022-3-23 10:35
謝鴿兄
我研究的脫帽走法

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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-3-23 11:33
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-3-24 20:07 编辑

陈兄脱帽后，续走黑炮八平五驱走中兵，再平六打死红炮，以后应该和棋不难。黑炮八进八这步很妙。
作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-3-23 13:04
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-3-23 11:33

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-3-23 13:22
老鸽子 发表于 2022-3-23 11:33
陈兄脱帽后，续走黑炮八平五驱走中兵，再平六打死红炮，以后应该和棋不难。黑方炮八进八这步很妙，似无它着 ...

黑驱走中兵？赶不走吧！
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-3-23 13:39
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-3-23 13:46 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2022-3-23 11:28
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-3-23 13:41
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-3-23 16:07 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2022-3-23 13:22
黑驱走中兵？赶不走吧！

若驱不走，即红飞相，黑四路后卒可平五，亦即弃卒打兵。

学生答题的前段着法不成立。

作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2022-3-23 14:01
yjr123 发表于 2022-3-23 13:04

改好了

当时没空去考虑这个
作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-3-23 14:08
老鸽子 发表于 2022-3-23 13:39

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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-3-23 15:22
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-3-23 16:20 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2022-3-23 14:08

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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2022-3-23 16:24
本帖最后由 剑影¤独步 于 2022-3-23 16:26 编辑
老鸽子 发表于 2022-3-23 15:22

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-3-23 16:26
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