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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-3 03:09
标题: 雷鳴電閃
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-3 03:13
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-3 03:25
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-3 03:29
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-3 03:47
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-3 03:55
江湖型排局在黃大昌的作品中不多見
物稀為貴
呵呵呵呵呵
作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-4-3 07:26
怎么判?

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作者: xqahz010    时间: 2022-4-3 08:16
本帖最后由 xqahz010 于 2022-4-3 08:23 编辑

黑方退炮下浮平4绝杀,进炮是打车应该黑方犯规吧,红方进退炮并无攻击目的应属闲着,个人之愚见,如有不妥请见谅
作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-4-3 08:56
xqahz010 发表于 2022-4-3 08:16
黑方退炮下浮平4绝杀,进炮是打车应该黑方犯规吧,红方进退炮并无攻击目的应属闲着,个人之愚见,如有不妥 ...

红方退炮肯定属于捉(车捉马),进炮到底算不算捉?应该不算。那此局就是红胜。
作者: xqahz010    时间: 2022-4-3 09:06
是的 进炮是解除黑平4杀
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-3 11:00
7樓7回合黑卒5平4  變 化複雜   待研究
作者: 我是bb1    时间: 2022-4-4 00:43
yjr123 发表于 2022-4-3 08:56
红方退炮肯定属于捉(车捉马),进炮到底算不算捉?应该不算。那此局就是红胜。

红退炮前是以车换马,退炮后白得马,所以退炮算捉。红进炮前车吃马会被将死,所以不算捉,进炮后可以白得马,所以算捉(可参考2011棋规参考图33)。一进一退算两捉。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-4 12:09
12樓第4句最後2字應改為抽車

我 同意12樓的結論

我也不是裁判專家  憑邏輯推論  若有失誤還望指正


另外
11樓所說7樓7回合卒5平4可抽車 變化複雜
云庫好像認為可和
我人機合一不熟練  不知余兄與各位同好研究如何呢
作者: 我是bb1    时间: 2022-4-4 13:39
聨吟客 发表于 2022-4-4 12:09
12樓第4句最後2字應改為抽車

我 同意12樓的結論

嗯,确实,红进炮前车吃马会被抽车(不是被将死),进炮后可白得马,属于有本质改变的从捉到捉,仍可定为捉。
至于7回合的卒5平4,个人认为红胜。

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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-4-4 19:37
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-4-4 19:56 编辑

十分少见的“武松打虎”类局,棋型与蒋权《江湖百局秘谱》“姜太公钓鱼”相似,但着法差别很大,也很精彩!
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-4 19:41
卒5平4變化 先列一種
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作者: xqahz010    时间: 2022-4-4 20:36
老鸽子 发表于 2022-4-4 19:37
十分少见的“武松打虎”类局,棋型与蒋权《江湖百局秘谱》“姜太公钓鱼”相似,但着法差别很大,也很精彩!

《江湖百局秘谱》“姜太公钓鱼”局黑胜
作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-4-4 21:12
聨吟客 发表于 2022-4-4 19:41
卒5平4變化 先列一種

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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-4-4 21:20
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-4-4 22:02 编辑
xqahz010 发表于 2022-4-4 20:36
《江湖百局秘谱》“姜太公钓鱼”局黑胜

个人认为,衡量一个棋局的好坏,不能以其结局的胜、负来判定,而应从其布局的雅观、子力的协调性,着法的新颖和精彩度等方面来判断。初创之局,难免有问题。有些棋局今天被奉为经典,但百年后又可能会被人找出问题来。有些江湖残局历经无数代人的雕琢,至今仍有这样那样的问题!所以棋局有问题不紧要,可以改啊!关键在于它的布局和着法是否优秀,这是象棋排局的生命力所在!若一个棋局的棋型不雅,着法又不精彩,那就差不多等于被判了死刑。
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2022-4-5 04:48
老鸽子 发表于 2022-4-4 21:20
个人认为,衡量一个棋局的好坏,不能以其结局的胜、负来判定,而应从其布局的雅观、子力的协调性,着法的 ...

特别的现在的一些拟修改的残局,把正解着法就是假像着法(解法没有出奇不意),那些残局,统为鸡肋!
大湿也有这样的残局
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-5 17:11
yjr123 发表于 2022-4-4 21:12

云庫沒有給出紅勝走法?

可能是我人機合一不太熟練
作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-4-5 19:22
聨吟客 发表于 2022-4-5 17:11
云庫沒有給出紅勝走法?

可能是我人機合一不太熟練

不会人机就完全自己动脑筋破解,不算复杂,别钻牛角尖就行,前2个回合后云库就会解了。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-5 22:04
yjr123 发表于 2022-4-5 19:22
不会人机就完全自己动脑筋破解,不算复杂,别钻牛角尖就行,前2个回合后云库就会解了。

果真如此
哈哈哈哈哈

鑽牛角尖似佳實軟

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-5 22:27
整理一下
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-5 22:45
由於第5回合紅有兩種走法可解

所以又引起我改局的衝動
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以下有兩個方案
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-5 22:48
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-8 17:01
成立否
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-8 17:29
成立否
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2022-4-9 08:00
聨吟客 发表于 2022-4-8 17:01
成立否

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-9 11:26
嗯  這樣可否
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-4-9 11:34
兩個改局都沒有達到黑優紅守和的江湖局要求


只是初步解決了5回合紅有兩種解法的問題

對紅方而言仍太容易一些

呵呵呵
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-6-11 11:49
原局出處

黃大昌最新象棋排局  上海書店 出版社  1999年7月第一版  第一次印刷  定價 19.00

全書共300局  第一部分連照勝局200局  第二部分七子和局100局

雷鳴電閃 第二部份七子和局 第16局
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-6-11 14:06
刚搜了一下此书,看了一目录,局名都很大气,可能大部分都是新作,已订购了。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-6-11 16:25
老鸽子 发表于 2022-6-11 14:06
刚搜了一下此书,看了一目录,局名都很大气,可能大部分都是新作,已订购了。

在當時是新作 但 距今已二十多年了
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2022-6-17 13:48
聨吟客 发表于 2022-4-9 11:26
嗯  這樣可否

10回后兵平六之变至12回红改走帅五平四,是否红胜

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作者: ★星海★    时间: 2022-6-17 15:00
杨启忠 发表于 2022-6-17 13:48
10回后兵平六之变至12回红改走帅五平四,是否红胜

走到这里是红胜的,接下来兵六进一又错失胜机。


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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-6-17 17:15
杨启忠 发表于 2022-6-17 13:48
10回后兵平六之变至12回红改走帅五平四,是否红胜

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-6-17 17:31
★星海★ 发表于 2022-6-17 15:00
走到这里是红胜的,接下来兵六进一又错失胜机。

喔   那黑只有7回合再炮退3

雙方不變  應是長捉對長捉  和局

這樣也改得不滿意
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-7-20 18:06
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-7-21 01:10 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2022-6-11 11:49
原局出處

黃大昌最新象棋排局  上海書店 出版社  1999年7月第一版  第一次印刷  定價 19.00

《黄大昌最新象棋排局》实际上十天前就看完了,只是没时间顾及说说。最大的感受是陈兄把此谱唯一的一则古谱改编局给挖了出来!

该谱号称黄大昌一生中分量最重之谱,也确实比此前诸谱好多了,但总体而言,与朱鹤洲、裘望禹、周孟芳、李中健、张建麟、李浭、陶诒谟等的创作排局还是差了一大截;多子局则不比林幼如。棋局的深奥度远不如上述前几位大师。尤其是布局陷阱浅显,随之而来的便是“做作”之嫌,似与刘汉夫的局同类。

该谱共300局,若论佳作,最多不过20局。而《七子百局谱》、《少子百局谱》、《象棋排局精选》(周孟芳)、《弈海烟波》、《象棋排局精品》等谱几乎局局经典!






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