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标题: 棋图相似、着法大相径庭两局棋 [打印本页]

作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2025-3-11 11:00
标题: 棋图相似、着法大相径庭两局棋
本帖最后由老鸽子于 2025-3-11 11:40 编辑

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作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2025-3-11 11:08
本帖最后由老鸽子于 2025-3-11 11:26 编辑

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2025-3-11 11:39
棋图不相似，只是初始局面所伏的杀着相似，所以开始着法相同，并非大相径庭。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2025-3-11 14:13
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作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2025-3-12 00:34

yjr123 发表于 2025-3-11 14:13

这样红方宫心兵呆不住就无杀，非常谢谢！

作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2025-3-12 00:59
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作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2025-3-12 02:31
本帖最后由老鸽子于 2025-3-12 02:32 编辑

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作者: sdndsx 时间: 2025-3-12 02:42

老鸽子发表于 2025-3-12 00:59

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作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2025-3-12 05:59
本帖最后由老鸽子于 2025-3-12 06:34 编辑

sdndsx 发表于 2025-3-12 02:42

解得那么轻松，有劳大师，非常谢谢！

第一步我总想着红方用六路车进底叫将，结果进行不下去。此局的拆解还是很有难度的。

作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2025-3-12 05:59
本帖最后由老鸽子于 2025-3-12 06:13 编辑

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2025-3-12 10:09

老鸽子发表于 2025-3-12 00:34
这样红方宫心兵呆不住就无杀，非常谢谢！

此局应该还是红胜，第5回合红兵吃士错失胜机。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2025-3-13 10:27

作者: yjr123 时间: 2025-3-13 14:32
用现在的软件分析，错误还挺多的。

作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-19 13:37
yjr123,請求山雨欲來答案，此局應該還是紅勝，第5回合紅兵錯失勝機。

作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-19 13:51
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作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-19 13:58
啊！原來已有答案，與書本不同，紅也是勝。

作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-19 14:12
反客為主採用8樓
的答案，取消改圖，學習了。

作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-19 14:21
弄得糊喱糊塗，兩個答案也可行。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2025-3-19 15:53

奇蹟三號发表于 2025-3-19 13:37
yjr123,請求山雨欲來答案，此局應該還是紅勝，第5回合紅兵錯失勝機。

哪里的第5回合红兵错失胜机？

正解应该还是和棋

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作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-19 21:59
謝謝余老師，清楚了，明白，辛苦了你，謝謝！

作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-19 22:05
在11樓那段文字，誤認了，冇事！

作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-20 18:40
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]龚金源拟，非常不错。||||与上局的主要差别是：||红加两兵及仕相，黑减一卒，并移卒、移象。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-20 18:43
第五回合，炮五退三，又一路變化。

作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-20 18:50
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_12]这样就可以和了[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_13]都係會和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_13]
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作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-21 08:43
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[DhtmlXQ_comment41]紅大子勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]同是敗着[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]被黑方求和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]这样就可以和了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]已難反勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_30]已難反勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]敗着，被紅方佔勝。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_71]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_17]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_17]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2025-3-21 10:42

奇蹟三號发表于 2025-3-21 08:43

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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]紅大子勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]同是敗着[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]被黑方求和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]这样就可以和了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]已難反勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_30]已難反勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]敗着，被紅方佔勝。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_71]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_17]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment29]黑方难应[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
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作者: 奇蹟三號 时间: 2025-3-22 09:11
好，收到，在第十四合馬四退六，好，謝謝！

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