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标题: ２００４第１１期《棋艺》的排局“雁阵惊寒” [打印本页]
作者: zhaodi    时间: 2005-7-30 23:02
标题: ２００４第１１期《棋艺》的排局“雁阵惊寒”


[此贴子已经被作者于2005-7-30 23:08:52编辑过]
作者: 667    时间: 2005-7-30 23:48
以下是引用zhaodi在2005-7-30 23:02:00的发言：



47着先车三退一，再进兵追杀呢。

作者: yjr123    时间: 2005-7-31 07:12
到第47着才求变已太晚，黑方可连杀。
应直接在第41着时兵六进一，黑方如强行变化，可能不利：
[此贴子已经被作者于2005-7-31 7:15:19编辑过]
作者: 667    时间: 2005-7-31 10:13

47着求变是连杀了。

但记得以前讨论过关于41着进兵的变化，好像也属于黑胜势，当时认为属于红贪胜的陷阱，大家再一起拆拆吧。

作者: zhaodi    时间: 2005-7-31 12:35


我认为红早在21步变,可胜.原谱红帅六退一,改走帅六平五.
[此贴子已经被作者于2005-7-31 13:27:57编辑过]
作者: 小车马    时间: 2005-8-2 14:31


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[此贴子已经被作者于2005-8-2 15:50:08编辑过]
作者: 小车马    时间: 2005-8-2 15:25


第41着时兵六进一的变化，44着黑应后卒平6，以后变化很复杂，以前我认为黑胜，最近发现可和。[DhtmlXQ]

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[DhtmlXQ_comment55]新发现的走法，以前走车五进一结果黑胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]

[DhtmlXQ_comment71]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment71]

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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2005-8-2 17:39

6楼7楼的帖子建议在变着处先注明结论，方便观看排演。

回6楼，第11回合黑如卒7进1，红应走车七进八，黑没有机会，红胜棋。



这样的话，7楼的演变没有意义了。就算演变，我认为是黑胜。黑后卒平6应改走后卒进1。

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-8-2 18:03:03编辑过]
作者: 小车马    时间: 2005-8-3 20:35


5楼的问题似乎可以通过简单交换秩序解决

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-8-3 20:38:16编辑过]
作者: zhaodi    时间: 2005-8-4 09:16

呵呵,这么简单的方法,我没有发现!,是的,这样逼红帅六退一.

但这样,7楼、8楼的问题又出来了。黑优（或胜）

作者: zhaodi    时间: 2005-8-4 09:48


作者: 小车马    时间: 2005-8-4 10:00


11楼51着车四平五
作者: zhaodi    时间: 2005-8-4 10:22
黑接走:车２进８ 帅五退一 车２平６ 马五退四 马７退５ 车五进五 将５平４ 车五进一 将４进１
作者: 小车马    时间: 2005-8-4 11:53


如此此局黑胜？
[此贴子已经被作者于2005-8-4 11:59:53编辑过]
作者: zhaodi    时间: 2005-8-17 22:24

如１１楼的图着，第４５着红如改走车七退三，似乎更顽强，可能有和棋．

哦，不行的，见第７楼注解，还是黑胜

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-8-17 22:47:04编辑过]
作者: 北方好汉    时间: 2005-8-18 09:03


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