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就排局的一个幻想，求教各位朋友，谢谢！

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发布时间: 2014-11-21 09:18

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为了方便说明，先设定一下（不是什么标准）走出一步棋之后，导致同时将军的棋子数量： 1 单将——有一子正在将军 2 双将——有两子正在将军 3 三将——有三子正在将军 4 四将——有四子正在将军以下依次类推 ...

sdndsx 发表于 2020-10-25 07:00:33

再借省一个红炮。着法唯一。但最后是三将，不是四将了。

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sdndsx 发表于 2020-10-25 06:46:42

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2020-10-25 06:55 编辑

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红方还有双车四兵没用上。头尾双四将。最后一步棋没能实现四将唯一。

sdndsx 发表于 2020-10-25 06:42:31

各位老师们：

四将局面经过大家的创拟，出现了不少大作。

四将局面已有4321倒序。

四将局面还缺少1234正序。

四将局面的1234正序难度极大，首先要突破的难关的是：最后一步棋是四将。

我还在摸索。似乎有点机会了。

sdndsx 发表于 2020-10-22 18:42:48

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sdndsx 发表于 2020-10-21 18:19:06

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sdndsx 发表于 2015-3-23 10:31:22

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-11-26 13:18 编辑

79楼没有四将。朋友们，继续加油！

sdndsx 发表于 2015-3-23 10:28:31

用倒排增子法再增“千金”的一着：
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sdndsx 发表于 2015-3-23 10:26:31

对不起，上楼棋图红车位置不对，以下图为准。不知什么原因导致编辑页面显示不全，无法编辑，所以只有重发，请各位见谅！
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sdndsx 发表于 2015-3-23 10:26:00

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sdndsx 发表于 2015-3-23 10:25:34

下面是转帖的
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sdndsx 发表于 2015-2-11 17:09:32

各位朋友，我来销假。对于这个题材的排局，我期盼不断有新的突破！请朋友们把新的佳作贴出来，谢谢大家！

ZhangFeng 先生，近来有这个题材的新作吧，恳请您贴上来。

独乐乐不如众乐乐。

sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-15 11:38:11

谢谢大家的鼓励和支持。由于年终事务繁忙，告假一段时间。渴盼大作频出！

ZhangFeng 发表于 2014-12-10 07:03:33

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ZhangFeng 发表于 2014-12-9 12:29:47

类似的思路和套路，4回合胜（4321将）：
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类似的思路和套路，5回合胜（43212将）
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sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-8 09:47:28

ZhangFeng 发表于 2014-12-7 19:03
非常感谢法官先生指出错误！68楼改成下图这样原着法就能成立了：棋局中段保持有1432将或者4321将！

先生的这局又是一个新纪录，加油！

ZhangFeng 发表于 2014-12-7 19:03:59

本帖最后由 ZhangFeng 于 2014-12-8 07:01 编辑

象棋法官发表于 2014-12-7 18:39

非常感谢法官先生指出错误！68楼改成下图这样原着法就能成立了：棋局中段保持有1432将或者4321将！
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象棋法官 发表于 2014-12-7 18:39:55

ZhangFeng 发表于 2014-12-7 18:24
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ZhangFeng 发表于 2014-12-7 18:24:47

61楼再增加几回合，棋局中段保持有1432将或者4321将：
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sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-7 14:08:07

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-12-7 14:14 编辑

★星海★ 发表于 2014-12-6 21:51
60楼略加修改，保持前4回合4132.

星海老师：补充一个劣变着法。不知对不对。谢谢！

劣变8回合，不影响原主变。
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sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-7 08:33:59

★星海★ 发表于 2014-12-6 21:51
60楼略加修改，保持前4回合4132.

谢谢先生！您的这局棋是目前含有多将排局的新纪录。真诚的祝贺您的大作成功！

sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-7 08:31:08

667 发表于 2014-12-6 21:49
祝贺！！！
如此简单的型，实现了高难度。

谢谢先生！您提供了绝妙的兴奋点，极大地启迪了大家的智慧，这样的就排局论排局的氛围，对振兴象棋排局有百利而无一害啊！谢谢！

sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-7 08:26:39

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-12-7 10:44 编辑

ZhangFeng 发表于 2014-12-6 19:52
54楼又成功了，楼主真乃高人也！
下面我们可以挑战在5回合内，在已有1、2、3、4将的基础上增加2将，顺序 ...

谢谢先生！又提供了新的兴奋点！我虽然有点棋龄，高人绝对算不上，棋软不会用，上网菜鸟级，手机不会弄，QQ更糟糕，排局靠人脑，漏洞经常出。华工网最独特的优势是，集中了众多排局高手，为了前景并不是很乐观的象棋排局事业，多一些鼓励，多一些启迪，少一些纷争，少一些跑题，为营造 就排局论排局 的和谐氛围，共同尽力。谢谢大家！

您在53楼的精简局的思路，我也不止一次地排拟过（47楼），因为我无法控制住主变唯一，总是燕尾双叉，我就放弃了。我渴盼先生能够继续改进，力争把此局的思路完美实现。谢谢您！

★星海★ 发表于 2014-12-6 21:51:00

sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-6 10:30
53#如果成功的话，同时满足了三个条件：

1 首着不吃子

60楼略加修改，保持前4回合4132.
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667 发表于 2014-12-6 21:49:55

ZhangFeng 发表于 2014-12-5 22:03
4321（从大到小），着法唯一：

祝贺！！！
如此简单的型，实现了高难度。

ZhangFeng 发表于 2014-12-6 19:52:51

sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-6 09:13
28楼再改改试试，敬请老师们评点。谢谢！

54楼又成功了，楼主真乃高人也！
下面我们可以挑战在5回合内，在已有1、2、3、4将的基础上增加2将，顺序可以不限，但着法要唯一！
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sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-6 10:30:46

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-12-6 10:46 编辑

53#如果成功的话，同时满足了三个条件：

1 首着不吃子
2 1——4将四回合，主变唯一
3 只动一兵

好像第2个条件，主变不是唯一（原局的着法仍然存在）。还可继续加工。谢谢！

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sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-6 09:40:04

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-12-6 09:45 编辑

这种排局只有四个回合，表面上看算不上排局，实际上，要求之严，难度之大，所耗精力不亚于普通连照排局创作。我期望大家多提供兴奋点，多启迪智慧，我相信，这种氛围下，多将排局（不一定非要1——4将，只要有多将就行，几个回合都可以）一定会频破记录。谢谢大家！

我本来不想多增加楼层，56、57、58三层，可以用点评的方式，可能是我笨，找不到点评按钮。

sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-6 09:21:17

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-12-6 09:24 编辑

667 发表于 2014-12-5 14:26
唯一性的4321，或1234，按顺序，存不存在？

先生的新启迪，好！期盼佳作频出！

相互就棋论棋，相互启迪智慧，这种氛围应该欢迎和鼓励！

sdndsx 发表于 2014-12-6 09:19:30

ZhangFeng 发表于 2014-12-5 22:03
4321（从大到小），着法唯一：

敬佩！继续加油！

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