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sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-29 18:17:32

非常感谢联吟客和YJR123两位老师的关注和支持！

交上作业，敬请批阅。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0_1]第1个关键！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0_2]有两个意图：||1 企图逃跑||2 禁帅后退[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0_3]第2个关键！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0_16]走完8个回合。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0_17]第3个关键！妙！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0_22]防止红方底兵东渡。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0_23]第4个关键！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0_25]第5个关键！东渡成功。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0_42]黑方——||左右平炮长捉底兵||进退动炮单方长将||必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0_60]黑方——||左右平炮长捉底兵||进退动炮单方长将||必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0_65]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_65]
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聨吟客 发表于 2016-7-29 18:08:53

38樓 1與2圖不會影響結果

都是紅先和,黑先紅勝,(如亞洲規則就都和)

sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-28 17:48:39

聨吟客发表于 2016-7-28 16:52
比較一下單雙步的不同

谢谢您！

我喜欢对照研究！您我不谋而合！深入交流，加深友谊！

聨吟客 发表于 2016-7-28 16:52:36

比較一下單雙步的不同

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聨吟客 发表于 2016-7-28 16:43:07

sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-28 15:07
飞云逍遥老师解拆

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sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-28 15:07:37

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-7-28 15:09 编辑

飞云逍遥老师解拆
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sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-28 15:04:17

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yjr123 发表于 2016-7-28 10:04:44

聨吟客发表于 2016-7-27 23:00
有沒有六子棋? 如果五子棋先手必勝, 六子棋又如何?沒有任何限制也不容易勝吧 ?和局機率很高是嗎?

有六子棋，下法是第一个人下一手，以后每人连下二手，先连成六者胜。
http://www.connect6.org/

yjr123 发表于 2016-7-28 10:01:39

聨吟客发表于 2016-7-27 22:54
嗯, 想起來了,好像有印象, 小時候有聽說不能雙活三, 後來沒玩了就忘記了,可是雙四也不行嗎?

双 ...

无禁手的五子棋相当于一个红先胜局，且变化不多，一个小软件就穷尽所有变化。
有禁手的五子棋相当于是一个相对较复杂的红先胜局，有地毯谱可查。

sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-28 09:28:25

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-7-28 09:59 编辑

谢谢！再修改如下
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聨吟客 发表于 2016-7-28 08:56:47

27樓單雙步好像可和,底兵改八路紅勝

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sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-28 05:12:50

聨吟客发表于 2016-7-27 23:15

解得好！第7回合真棒！

sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-28 05:08:42

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聨吟客 发表于 2016-7-27 23:15:38

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聨吟客 发表于 2016-7-27 23:00:20

有沒有六子棋? 如果五子棋先手必勝, 六子棋又如何?沒有任何限制也不容易勝吧 ?和局機率很高是嗎?

聨吟客 发表于 2016-7-27 22:54:24

yjr123 发表于 2016-7-27 21:04
五子棋黑先手优势太大，所以限制黑不能下长连、三三、四四点（禁手），只能三四胜，而白棋无限制。即使这 ...

嗯, 想起來了,好像有印象, 小時候有聽說不能雙活三, 後來沒玩了就忘記了,可是雙四也不行嗎?

双四的機率會高過四三嗎? 如果只能双四勝又如何呢? 呵呵呵.....

又,現今科學已證明五子棋先手必勝了嗎? 需用到超級電腦嗎?

sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-27 21:24:09

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yjr123 发表于 2016-7-27 21:04:47

聨吟客发表于 2016-7-27 18:19
喔,有點懶,寫在註解中, 呵呵呵....

另外,五子棋也有禁手嗎?第一次聽到, 五子棋禁手是怎樣的呢?

五子棋黑先手优势太大，所以限制黑不能下长连、三三、四四点（禁手），只能三四胜，而白棋无限制。即使这样，还是黑先必胜，正式比赛还有很多规则。

sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-27 19:54:41

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sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-27 19:26:55

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-7-27 19:31 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2016-7-27 18:54
我電腦9樓與13樓沒有問題啊, 要不請管理員檢查一下

您9楼和13楼贴出的棋图可作为局面5（不是2楼的局面2），很棒！

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聨吟客 发表于 2016-7-27 18:54:05

我電腦9樓與13樓沒有問題啊, 要不請管理員檢查一下

sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-27 18:48:49

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sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-27 18:31

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sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-27 18:44:47

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-7-27 18:55 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2016-7-27 18:31

谢谢！

您9楼贴出的局面是红方已经走了一步炮二进八，轮到黑方走棋。
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您13楼贴出的局面，第1步点击前进无反应啊。
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sdndsx 发表于 2016-7-27 18:31:56

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聨吟客 发表于 2016-7-27 18:31:45

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聨吟客 发表于 2016-7-27 18:25:41

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