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发表于 2008-10-15 14:01:00 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-10-15 14:12:00 | 只看该作者

<< 铁炮神威>>局见于08年5期<<象棋研究>>,作者原意:15回合单炮取胜。 经研究红可14回合胜,且末尾红剩车、炮二子胜。如何修改才能维持原意?  

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-10-15 16:46:00 | 只看该作者

此局的正解如下:

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-10-15 16:47:23编辑过]
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发表于 2008-10-15 22:32:00 | 只看该作者
[此贴子已经被作者于2008-10-15 23:21:42编辑过]
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发表于 2008-10-16 08:37:00 | 只看该作者
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[此贴子已经被作者于2008-10-16 11:04:08编辑过]
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发表于 2008-10-16 09:43:00 | 只看该作者
崔老师,7楼好像无法取胜。
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发表于 2008-10-16 10:14:00 | 只看该作者
[此贴子已经被作者于2008-10-16 10:24:17编辑过]
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发表于 2008-10-16 11:13:00 | 只看该作者
开始利用6楼的图发图,结果多了个兵,现在没有问题.5楼也很好
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发表于 2008-10-16 18:41:00 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-10-16 19:32:00 | 只看该作者
5楼、7楼改得完全正确,9楼改法不能维持原意 ,末尾红剩马、炮或炮、士。(正如11楼所列图势)
[此贴子已经被作者于2008-10-16 19:34:26编辑过]
13#
发表于 2008-10-17 09:58:00 | 只看该作者
9楼结局也是一子,只是着法有问题,很明显,就没有改了。结局保留了红士,加上红帅,“对影成三人”了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-10-17 13:24:00 | 只看该作者

改成下图 ?

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[此贴子已经被作者于2008-10-17 13:28:05编辑过]
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发表于 2008-10-17 14:02:00 | 只看该作者
14楼好!
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发表于 2008-10-17 14:28:00 | 只看该作者
图片点击可在新窗口打开查看图片点击可在新窗口打开查看图片点击可在新窗口打开查看14楼
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发表于 2008-10-17 19:06:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-10-17 19:19:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-10-18 05:47:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-10-18 11:17:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-10-18 11:29:00 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-10-18 11:36:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-10-19 06:50:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-10-19 20:30:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-10-19 20:48:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-10-19 20:49:00 | 只看该作者
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