请教4：关于霹雳类局

zzk132 · 发表于 2014-8-24 13:10:13

请教“底兵霹雳”着法能否像“左炮霹雳”一样，黑胜？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999998587003141324252996499509999999974994738589999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]底兵霹雳[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]晴天霹雳系列[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]江湖排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949999999898587413199324252999999509964999999743858994799[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_event]晴天霹雳系列[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_title]左炮霹雳之黑胜局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4140504085454050875752428980505131414241808151504555475781417478414050514043384849395767323151524353524255454838394967685343425243535242534342524353524253434252455558484348384849396869[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]收集自网上的散局||zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [/DhtmlXQ]

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-24 13:25:33

一将一杀按江湖规矩判和

zzk132 · 发表于 2014-8-24 18:05:54

一将一杀按江湖规矩判和[/quote] 如按现代大陆棋规，应是黑胜吗？

zzk132 · 发表于 2014-8-24 18:15:05

请教：这“七子霹雳”着法是傲日西先生的着法吗？19回合红改兵五平六能取胜吗？ [[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]4199999949999999696567214299999952999999509999993828994758889999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_event]晴天霹雳系列[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_title]七子霹雳[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]6555524267574757414258484248284869605051606151526162525121314840626151526160404560625251626151523141574749595242555038395958393050403040414088786163454063624241626141426163[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_37_1]4030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_37_1] [/DhtmlXQ]

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-24 18:32:26

如按现代大陆棋规，应是黑胜吗？[/quote] 大陆棋规黑胜

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-8-24 18:36:08

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zzk132 · 发表于 2014-8-24 20:48:32

7回合黑将6平5改炮2进4如何吗？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6999999939999999997968205121101147999999409999999915993635991999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_event]晴天霹雳系列[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_title]横空霹雳-台湾民间排局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]笑傲桔枰[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]笑傲桔枰[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]20304030213130316861313069683040515040506181192979291519[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_33_17_1]31343637343747376838373839381434[/DhtmlXQ_move_33_17_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_33_17_2]2921473768383738393814343135363738393738[/DhtmlXQ_move_33_17_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_33_16_3]36373137473768383536292515142524373839384041102041422010[/DhtmlXQ_move_33_16_3] 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本局见载于台湾象棋刊《中华象棋》45·46期合刊本，为高雄市龚勇南收集的台湾民间象棋排局，原无局名，刊中只列出一变红劣黑胜诱人骗着，未进行全面解析研究。笔者感觉该盘面布子整洁，红方四兵摆设别致，与“霹雳”局相仿，对是局进行了初步拆解，初以为红胜，在泓弈网贴出后，网友wo9698提出两例新变，笔者在此基础上进一步研究，初步结论和棋。本局变化较多，是一则不可多得的佳构。根据首招兵七平六，笔者取名为“横空霹雳”。着法如下，请指正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment7]必走之招。如车三进六，则将4平5，炮二平八，车5平4，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7] [DhtmlXQ_comment9]弃兵叫将为泓弈网友wo9698提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]进卒催杀，着法有力。为泓弈网友wo9698提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_42] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_39] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_37] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_41] 必须立即换炮成和，否则帅五退一，卒4平5，帅五平六，卒5进1，帅六进一，卒5进1，帅六退一，卒5进1，兵六平七，炮5平7，兵七平六，炮7退2，兵六平五，炮7平5，兵五进一，将6平5，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_44] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_31] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment23_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_37] [DhtmlXQ_comment24_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_50]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_30] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_11]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_6]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_1]《中华象棋》只列出本变着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_8]闷杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_33]5040813115142924363731374737683835362434373839381415343540411121414210201512354512323848322220302224454424254445[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_33] [/DhtmlXQ]

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-8-24 21:07:44

zzk132 发表于 2014-8-24 20:48
7回合黑将6平5改炮2进4如何吗？

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[DhtmlXQ_author]笑傲桔枰[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]笑傲桔枰[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0] 本局见载于台湾象棋刊《中华象棋》45·46期合刊本，为高雄市龚勇南收集的台湾民间象棋排局，原无局名，刊中只列出一变红劣黑胜诱人骗着，未进行全面解析研究。笔者感觉该盘面布子整洁，红方四兵摆设别致，与“霹雳”局相仿，对是局进行了初步拆解，初以为红胜，在泓弈网贴出后，网友wo9698提出两例新变，笔者在此基础上进一步研究，初步结论和棋。本局变化较多，是一则不可多得的佳构。根据首招兵七平六，笔者取名为“横空霹雳”。着法如下，请指正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]必走之招。如车三进六，则将4平5，炮二平八，车5平4，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]弃兵叫将为泓弈网友wo9698提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]进卒催杀，着法有力。为泓弈网友wo9698提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_41] 必须立即换炮成和，否则帅五退一，卒4平5，帅五平六，卒5进1，帅六进一，卒5进1，帅六退一，卒5进1，兵六平七，炮5平7，兵七平六，炮7退2，兵六平五，炮7平5，兵五进一，将6平5，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_50]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_11]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_6]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_1]《中华象棋》只列出本变着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_8]闷杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_8]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14]强手[/DhtmlXQ_comment14][DhtmlXQ_comment18]红难应[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
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hzsjy · 发表于 2014-8-25 13:07:23

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hzsjy · 发表于 2014-8-25 13:13:07

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[DhtmlXQ_move_45_10_46]3040290915056838050661640604112136373878373878384745213104011020[/DhtmlXQ_move_45_10_46] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_47]696419297929304064444744[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_47] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_48]30405141474131414041694941514947[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_48] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_49]6848192939491519[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_49] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_50]684847373949373949391929393836373837353637381535[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]颂古　释法薰　宋||||百丈机先疾似风，巍巍独坐大雄峰。||要知奇特中奇特，明月难教下碧空。|||||||| 本局原无一路边相。见于台湾象棋刊物《中华象棋》45·46期合刊本，为高雄市龚勇南收集的台湾民间象棋排局，原无局名，刊中只列出一变红劣黑胜诱人骗着。原局经拆解为黑胜。现加一边相成和。|| 原局“傅信仁”先生将其取名为“孤坐雄峰”。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment11]B变要整理。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11] [DhtmlXQ_comment44]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment44] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_58]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_110]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_110] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_59]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_57]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]B变可删除。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_58]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_64]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_64] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_38]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_14]此变可删除。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_68]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_68] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_45] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_48]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_54]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_42]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_42] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]红胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]红胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_49]红胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_84]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_84] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_67]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_64] [DhtmlXQ_comment23_112]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_112] [DhtmlXQ_comment24_80]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_80] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_80]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_80] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_66]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_66] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_54]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_60]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_60] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_54]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_76]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_76] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_70]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_70] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_47]红胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_61]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment36_31]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_31] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_31]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_31] [DhtmlXQ_comment38_61]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment39_38]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment40_34]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment41_18]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment42_24]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_41]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment44_32]黑胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_45]红胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_45] [DhtmlXQ_comment46_25]红胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment47_12]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment48_11]红胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment49_6]黑胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_12]黑胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_12] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-25 14:59:38

回一楼１图：[/quote] 加个底兵果然有玄机。

zzk132 · 发表于 2014-8-25 18:04:26

请问：“巍巍独坐大雄峰”是谁的作品？与横空霹雳-台湾民间排局有什么关联？本局见载于台湾象棋刊《中华象棋》45·46期合刊本，为高雄市龚勇南收集的台湾民间象棋排局，原无局名，刊中只列出一变红劣黑胜诱人骗着，未进行全面解析研究。笔者感觉该盘面布子整洁，红方四兵摆设别致，与“霹雳”局相仿，对是局进行了初步拆解，初以为红胜，在泓弈网贴出后，网友wo9698提出两例新变，笔者在此基础上进一步研究，初步结论和棋。本局变化较多，是一则不可多得的佳构。根据首招兵七平六，笔者取名为“横空霹雳”。着法如下，请指正。 “笔者”是谁？谢谢！

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-8-25 18:13:57

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-25 18:17:37

"大雄峰"是沈济英先生自己改的吧.

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-8-26 07:02:12

象棋法官发表于 2014-8-25 14:59
加个底兵果然有玄机。

玄机在哪里？

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-26 07:49:13

有一变是红方剩下一个底兵，没有这个兵黑胜。

τ.半路浅唱 · 发表于 2014-8-26 07:49:27

玄机是否：黑方第十三步（2）变，红方低兵有用。

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-26 07:58:29

本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-8-26 08:32 编辑

“笔者”是谁，估计要到泓弈网找答案。或者问问“棋坛百晓生”667。667如果不知道，zhqinhuang多半是知道的。

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-8-26 09:01:02

“笔者”就是hzsjy

667 · 发表于 2014-8-26 09:27:20

横空霹雳-台湾民间排局，这篇的笔者是敖日西。

zzk132 · 发表于 2014-8-26 18:03:37

667 发表于 2014-8-26 09:27
横空霹雳-台湾民间排局，这篇的笔者是敖日西。

横空霹雳-台湾民间排局，这篇是敖日西。“巍巍独坐大雄峰”是hzsjy。对吗？余先生和龚先生。

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-26 18:23:58

沈济英先生修改的巍巍独坐大雄峰不一定能和，还有变化未经研究。

柒匹狼 · 发表于 2014-8-26 18:52:59

hzsjy 发表于 2014-8-25 13:13
回８楼：

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[DhtmlXQ_comment51_44]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_58]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_110]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_110]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_59]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_57]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]B变可删除。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_58]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_64]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_38]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_14]此变可删除。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_68]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_48]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_54]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_42]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]红胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]红胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_49]红胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_84]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_67]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_112]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_112]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_80]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_80]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_66]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_54]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_60]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_54]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_76]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_70]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_47]红胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_61]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_61]
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667 · 发表于 2014-8-26 19:04:41

zzk132 发表于 2014-8-26 18:03
横空霹雳-台湾民间排局，这篇是敖日西。“巍巍独坐大雄峰”是hzsjy。对吗？余先生和龚先生。

对

hzsjy · 发表于 2014-8-26 22:06:24

回22楼和23楼：
我的改局是有很大的问题，和棋的结论不成立！
该局是黑胜局！

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-8-27 05:58:10

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-8-27 07:27:54

本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-8-27 22:06 编辑

象棋排局是个游戏，游戏排局更是游戏中的游戏，用子上突破一些也不算什么。沈先生不用那个方案是有原因的，首先不吸引眼球，其次不简洁，多加个炮，第三沈先生想游戏一下。这是我的猜测。

τ.半路浅唱 · 发表于 2014-8-27 07:53:01

开拓散发性思维，突破规矩娱乐一下。

hzsjy · 发表于 2014-8-27 10:40:59

回22楼：
今天又看了一下。感到边相加的“太妙了！”。
着法暂时保密一下（着法相当精彩和紧凑）！

hzsjy · 发表于 2014-8-27 10:46:57

27楼的说法和我的想法基本一致。

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