这个局红能胜吗？

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-26 11:56:58

据说是白宏宽先生作的，据说红胜，但我研究了很久，没找到红胜的办法。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]圆梦(白宏宽)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]局外人[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]4155479959999970992275539999999912829999329999998824740336384899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]局外人[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-26 11:59:30

黑方河口双炮防御强大，红似乎胜不了。

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-26 14:05:27

没有解决方案。

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-27 16:53:26

黑方减一炮，红可胜： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]减炮圆梦1（25)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_binit]4170479959999955992275539999999912829999329999998824990338489999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4131323155433141754524447062414043514424624324444331445422425444423244545143544443224454324254444212445422435444435144641242644442524464314364444324443453433444243240414342413145354434321334541334[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-27 16:55:32

或者这样（隐藏红帅增加难度）： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]减炮圆梦2(32)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]4155479949999970992275539999999912829999329999998874990338589999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]413132315543314175457444706241404351445453435444433344342242344442324434514334444331446433436444435344646243644443224474534374444333443432423444421244242243244443644434334340301232303164523130323834444333443433233444523344343321344423334434214230313332[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-27 16:58:06

还可以这样： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]减炮圆梦3(38)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]4155479949999970992275539999999912829999329999998874990328385899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]413132315543314175457444706241404351445462434050433150402242544442324454514354444322448432428444421244245343244443334434224334444351443412423444425244543143544443624434334334444353443452423444428244546243544443314464824264444202445451435444315240504331505102014441312341422311424111305150527141610100[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-28 14:20:29

一杯红酒发表于 2014-12-27 17:56
改得好！

另外，黑14卒、39卒可以去掉不，没用放上干啥？

你怎么往简单了改啊？
黑卒都是有用的！

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-28 14:37:00

dave7788 发表于 2014-12-27 20:38
类似1楼棋局的着法：红先胜
1. 车五平六将４退１
2. 马四进五将４平５①

我感觉你这个走法问题很多。黑不会照你的思路走，我让引擎执黑，反正是没走通。而且没吃９路黑马，也不像是正解。

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-28 14:55:06

８楼减炮圆梦３，多走了两回合。应该这样：
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]减炮圆梦3(36)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table]
[DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam]
[DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam]
[DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]白宏宽[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]4155479949999970992275539999999912829999329999998874990328385899[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
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[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
[DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]白宏宽[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.ccbridge.net[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-28 15:01:58

dave7788 发表于 2014-12-28 14:41
不会有什么大问题的，强大的周软目前还解不开，需要人脑来完成。
前些天，请教朋友用“强软”试了类似 ...

第30回合，马六退五，黑可以将５平６！只要先前平一个炮在６路遮帅头就行，红无招。

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-28 15:41:25

dave7788 发表于 2014-12-28 15:30
1楼我设计64照，28楼70照。红胜无疑，只是着法数量是否吻合而已。

请看22楼我的疑问，黑始终留一个炮在６路遮帅头，然后将５平６，红无法获胜！

局外人2012 · 发表于 2014-12-28 15:49:19

dave7788 发表于 2014-12-28 15:44
你连周软都不相信，还能相信我么

软件不是万能的，软件也是人编的。软件不能解的局不止一两局，软件也经常给出错误解！

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