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[排局杂谈] 新拟的和局请改进。谢谢!

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1#
发表于 2015-9-1 22:25:28 | 只看该作者 |只看大图 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-9-2 05:26 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_title]新拟和局待提高[时鑫 拟局][/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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2#
发表于 2015-9-1 22:52:37 | 只看该作者
是否漏擺了黑子?
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3#
发表于 2015-9-1 22:57:49 | 只看该作者
這樣連殺
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4#
发表于 2015-9-1 23:03:57 | 只看该作者
車三平四也連殺,估計時老師貼棋圖時 漏擺黑子
5#
发表于 2015-9-1 23:12:09 | 只看该作者
是不是這樣
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6#
发表于 2015-9-1 23:31:53 | 只看该作者
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7#
发表于 2015-9-1 23:57:47 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2015-9-2 00:31 编辑

好像成立
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8#
发表于 2015-9-2 00:04:40 | 只看该作者
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9#
发表于 2015-9-2 00:08:59 | 只看该作者
添個低卒看看
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10#
发表于 2015-9-2 00:24:59 | 只看该作者
8樓先弄一變,不一定正確,以待各位修正補充
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11#
发表于 2015-9-2 00:45:00 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-2 00:24
8樓先弄一變,不一定正確,以待各位修正補充

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-2 05:19:21 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-9-2 05:30 编辑
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-9-2 00:45

谢谢联吟客老师!我1楼贴图时,误把黑车贴成了红车。对不起!
您在5楼的棋图才是正确的。
谢谢一杯红酒老师!

最先拟出的是下面这局:
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后改成的棋图:
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13#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-2 08:04:19 | 只看该作者
各位老师:昨天20150901 22:25 发帖时刚刚下班回到家(还发错了),我把发这个主题帖的前因后果说一下。
先说12楼:2局都可成和。哪为什么还要把上图改成下图?

因为上图的尾盘,如果黑方就是不用双卒换一红车,会出现僵持局面。

改成下图为什么还要老师们改进?

原因有2:
1 尾盘红马吃掉黑车,会怎样?
2 红方吃掉黑车也可以在黑边象位吗?
14#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-2 08:12:16 | 只看该作者
其实,我当初是想新拟一则我钟爱的将帅和。

为了说明我的思路,以下局面全都不能成立。我设想的很丰满,但结果是很骨感。

将帅和最初的想法:

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15#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-2 08:16:08 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-9-2 12:53 编辑

梦想被击破:
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当然,红方还有更加快捷的速胜法。见注解。
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-2 08:24:16 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-9-2 08:38 编辑

我想15楼的尾盘也不错,能不能利用一下。我就开始了改拟的苦旅(反复增删或调整子力位置,特别是黑卒的位置),直到现在没能成功。

暂时改变一下吧,于是就产生了12楼的2个局面。
17#
发表于 2015-9-2 10:32:44 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]0610993759999999600399202199999987999941405099999999994348579999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]改成这样应该可以正和![/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
[DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype]
[DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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18#
发表于 2015-9-2 11:46:02 | 只看该作者
9樓走法,是否正確呢
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[DhtmlXQ_title]新拟和局待提高[时鑫 造型 拟局][/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]2030403021313040314140411022413122433141436241316250314150624142625442415433413133123141122041316061313005000600616030312012314112334131600047570050575850584858595845465857887833143141143578683543414043354041354346565747685847375646435558485543414043554041554341404355[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment67]|| 和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment67]
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19#
发表于 2015-9-2 12:04:58 | 只看该作者
15樓添卒可否?
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999910609907999999212099999950404199370899999999397738[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]将帅和梦想被击破[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]20304030213130403141404110224131224331414362413162503141506241426254424154334131331231411220413160613130070008006160303120123141123341316000384833523141000141420102424152334131331231411220414002424030424839494849374959497767[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment56]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34805%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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20#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-2 12:26:57 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-9-2 12:39 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-2 12:04
15樓添卒可否?

联吟客老师:这个局面我也试过,是红胜。当红车吃掉黑车后,黑方要遮挡红帅露脸。

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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
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[DhtmlXQ_title]将帅和梦想被击破[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]20304030213130403141404110224131606131320702080261623231224331416202384843624131625031410242[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10]士6进5?||马七退五![/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
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21#
发表于 2015-9-2 16:27:43 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]改成这样应该可以正和[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]0610993759999999600399202199999987999941405099999999994348579999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]605040500656504003095758565848585958[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]改成这样应该可以正和![/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]揭帽紧(唯一性)!||以后宽度异常(多变性)!||深度异常(复杂性)!||以后变化之多,很难穷尽![/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
[DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype]
[DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.ccbridge.net[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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22#
发表于 2015-9-3 14:42:26 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2015-9-3 15:13 编辑

感謝時老師指導,下圖是否可以實現20樓的構想,但太簡短,還可添卒改進,有空再說
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999910709906999999212099999950404199990899999999466748[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]将帅和梦想被击破[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]20304030213130403141404110224131707131320602080271723231224331417202675702525758525848585958[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1]676843624131625031410242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1][DhtmlXQ_comment23] 和[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_2]2243314143624142625042415062414262544241543341313312314112204131707131300600080071703031201231411233413170006768[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_36][DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]仍應進七再 退車,同主變o[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34805%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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23#
发表于 2015-9-3 15:04:55 | 只看该作者
喔,22樓我不是要設定將帥和, 而是排出符合這個走法的局面,當然將帥和的創作與修改難度更大,不過我比較著重符合走法設計方面,因為成功的機會較大,至於將帥和就有待時兄或其他高手們努力了

22樓還可改進,但將帥和就不是我努力的方向了
24#
发表于 2015-9-3 23:27:19 | 只看该作者
22 樓添卒  94位
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999910709906999999212099999950404199990899999983466748[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]将帅和梦想被击破[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34805%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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25#
发表于 2015-9-4 17:02:18 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999910709906999999212099999950404199990899999983466748[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]将帅和梦想被击破[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]20304030213130403141404110224131707131320602080271723231224331417202675702524647525657585658485859588384436441426445848545664748585785866647867647357666354366565747485847375646435558485543504143554150554350414355[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]|| 和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1]857566544252574775654748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1][DhtmlXQ_comment53]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]838443624142625042415062414262544241546684855655857566475758555848585958[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2][DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_3]6685485859494748493948493938584838375747[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_3][DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34805%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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26#
发表于 2015-9-4 17:32:36 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2015-9-4 17:33 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]0610993759999999600399202199999987999941405099999999994348579999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]改成这样应该可以正和[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]605040500656504003095758565848585958[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]改成这样应该可以正和![/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]揭帽紧(唯一性)!||以后宽度异常(多变性)!||深度异常(复杂性)!||以后变化之多,很难穷尽![/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34805%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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      形成的尾盘局面,有未知性,也就是可以在尾盘阶段让客户任选红黑,摊主(仔细研究过的)几乎都有把握赢到客户,如果尾盘一方明显无胜局,或守和有较明显的走法、道理、成例,这尾盘就不是好的尾盘,或者达不到红黑任选,和棋算客户胜的要求!


27#
发表于 2015-9-4 19:40:05 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2015-9-4 17:02

11回合可走将5退1
28#
发表于 2015-9-4 19:55:59 | 只看该作者
★星海★ 发表于 2015-9-4 19:40
11回合可走将5退1

這樣
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999910709906999999212099999950404199990899999983466748[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]将帅和梦想被击破[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]203040302131304031414041102241317071313206020802717232312243314172026757025246475256414043355758565848585958473735438384436437476445848545664748585785866647867647357666354366565747485847375646435558485543404143554142554350414355[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]|| 和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_34_1]857566544252574775654748[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_34_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_4]57585658485859588384436441426445848545664748585785866647867647357666354366565747485847375646435558485543504143554150554350414355[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_4][DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]838443624142625042415062414262544241546684855655858666475758555848585958[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_3]6685485859494748493948493938584838375747[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]c和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_5]838435475758565848585958[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_5][DhtmlXQ_comment5_29]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_29]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34805%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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29#
发表于 2015-9-4 20:34:33 | 只看该作者
sdndsx 发表于 2015-9-2 08:16
梦想被击破:

这样修改可维持14楼着法,但形不成将帅和棋的想法。
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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6010994859999949990799202170999908379941405099993899993999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
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[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
[DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype]
[DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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30#
发表于 2015-9-5 11:13:48 | 只看该作者
邢春波 发表于 2015-9-4 20:34
这样修改可维持14楼着法,但形不成将帅和棋的想法。

設置 二路底兵的作用為何?   請指導
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