门前五柳

承云医疾 · 发表于 7 天前

修  改  【门  前  五  柳】  棋  局
         高佩玉  向杭德  整理  裘望禹校正
（此文刊1997年7月《羊城体育》）
  民间排局“门前五柳”（图一），刊于1989年人民体育出版社出版的《会珍阁象棋谱》，原着法红先和。（待续）

承云医疾 · 发表于 6 天前

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承云医疾 · 发表于 6 天前

这局棋又见于1991你蜀蓉棋艺出版社出版的《江湖特种排局》一书，局名“半舫秋江”，着法则为红先胜：

承云医疾 · 发表于 6 天前

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承云医疾 · 发表于 6 天前

以两种的着法相互比较，当以“江"第7着红炮二进七为正。一个精彩的江湖棋局不能成和，实为憾事，经裘望禹先生领衔诠正并改图于“会”谱，成图二局势。

承云医疾 · 发表于 6 天前

图二着法：红先和
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承云医疾 · 发表于 6 天前

诠注：第一步经过这样的修改，红方首着就不须走炮二退三而致败，应改走炮二平七解杀还杀，则红方可胜，黑如接走车7进9，相五退三车5进6；帅四平五炮2进1；炮七退四前卒进1；帅五进一红胜。
第四着：由于红方首着走软，则此着应改走前卒进一；帅四进一车7进8；帅四进一后卒平5；相三进五车5进4；帅四平五车7退1；士五进四马1进3；帅五退一车7进1黑胜。
第十一着：亦劣。应改走车八平七去卒催杀，，以下黒如车4平3或前卒进1，演变结果皆为红胜。
根据以上诠注，改图后红先和的结论并不能成立。

承云医疾 · 发表于 5 天前

笔者经过较长时间的研究，不揣浅陋，试改拟成图三局势，俾使结果成和，以供同好，图三（红先）：

承云医疾 · 发表于 4 天前

（图三）着法：
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承云医疾 · 发表于 4 天前

此文已经告一段落，请棋友们指正。待棋友讨论。

yjr123 · 发表于 4 天前

3楼说“半舫秋江”就是“门前五柳”，好像图式不同，手头无书，请核对一下。

图2和图3应该都是黑胜

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承云医疾 · 发表于 4 天前

遵照余老师意见，特地将二册书籍（会珍阁象棋谱和江湖特种排局）翻出，二书图式相同！

yjr123 · 发表于 4 天前

承云医疾发表于 2025-4-26 12:50
遵照余老师意见，特地将二册书籍（会珍阁象棋谱和江湖特种排局）翻出，二书图式相同！

谢谢，那就是我搜索的排局库数据有错。

xqahz010 · 发表于 4 天前

门局真的好难改，后续着法精彩，不能动，主要是开局换头走成原谱类似真的太难了

承云医疾 · 发表于 4 天前

”门前五柳“的继续修改高佩玉执笔修改
当年我发现余老师的走法卒3进1走法破坏了我们原来构思，去信南京并修改棋图如下：
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承云医疾 · 发表于 4 天前

后来向先生2011年去世，同年百谱23集问世。我看到《抚柳盘桓》，我心中有了些许安慰。

承云医疾 · 发表于 4 天前

这是《抚柳盘桓》棋图，权做<门前五柳》修改图
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xqahz010 · 发表于 4 天前

纸质版是下图
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[DhtmlXQ_comment44]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_30]和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_11]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_13]
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邢春波 · 发表于 4 天前

xqahz010 发表于 2025-4-26 19:13
纸质版是下图

开始的图是这样，余俊瑞老师指出黑可胜，后再修改而成
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邢春波 · 发表于 4 天前

承云医疾发表于 2025-4-26 17:21
”门前五柳“的继续修改高佩玉执笔修改
当年我发现余老师的走法卒3进1走法破坏了我们原来构思 ...

可能向老师当年发现红炮二平七可胜，于是把黑炮退至与红车炮同线
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xqahz010 · 发表于 4 天前

我看到百23此局第一眼感觉向门局开局部分，后来发现中间完全不同，作为门局修改图很牵强，算是另一种创作了

承云医疾 · 发表于 3 天前

xqahz010 发表于 2025-4-26 23:02
我看到百23此局第一眼感觉向门局开局部分，后来发现中间完全不同，作为门局修改图很牵强，算是另一种创作了

确实走法不同，但是源自门局---可以算是姐妹局，可见此局的创作空间较大。

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