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[专题局研究] 车兵残局问题

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发表于 2008-11-19 11:00:25 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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2#
发表于 2008-11-19 11:30:29 | 只看该作者

回复 1# 梅桔 的帖子

当然能守和。88回合才走出败着。
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发表于 2008-11-19 13:37:42 | 只看该作者

回复 1# 梅桔 的帖子

卒在九宫内,帅跟卒底走。
其余情况只要不让黑车占据五.三位就可以了。
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发表于 2008-11-19 13:50:24 | 只看该作者
这种低卒的形势黑方必须借助将的力量才有可能取胜。红方的两个兵在中间联手对防守很有利,所以红方守和难度不大。
5#
发表于 2008-11-19 13:58:40 | 只看该作者
第63回合后应是黑必胜
6#
发表于 2008-11-19 14:04:04 | 只看该作者
63回合后是黑必胜的局面,但黑的没走好,让红帅跑到了上面,所以87回合时的局面是和棋。
7#
发表于 2008-11-19 14:49:49 | 只看该作者
黑方的车卒运用很差。黑67回合后不曾动过士象。将也从未发挥过助功的作用。 - - - -[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0919293949596979891777062646668600102030405060708012720323436383[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]三兵五七炮对屏风马3卒[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event]弈天杯棋王赛[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date]2001.05.13[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place]弈天棋缘[/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_red]谢卓淼(谢卓淼)[/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_black]laiking(赖罗平)[/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_open]C74 五七炮互进三兵对屏风马边卒右马外盘河[/DhtmlXQ_open] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]7747706279678070897910226665232419070304172722140908604208580001797314062728013167553151594850415543515843627060285860625853122253230614071524252625040515271402273562522907022335235256464556664544666948596965252472524434654507296364394864654787525687835666493922324837663637483666483766363748367648377636374836764837763637483676483765757363763637483666483775656373323773763735594845482414422483853585868524422344484514244260294766464765464434444535394935454959455559495565243465454959455559495585766685454959455559495545495920426616051516261525265645475958473758483735485835385859383959583938585938685949253549596848565535365556483859493837495937395958363756363738585739595747405047373828[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_170_1]5958367658684737382876776866374728384737663637473626[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_170_1] [/DhtmlXQ]
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发表于 2008-11-19 15:52:37 | 只看该作者

还没有完,红方还可弃兵。

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发表于 2008-11-20 12:46:38 | 只看该作者

回復 8# ★星海★ 的帖子

車低卒士象全 例勝 車高兵光帥.. 關鍵是用 將銓帥兵, 車銓車兵, 迫紅車不能守中線.. 所以不能棄兵, 棄兵必敗.
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发表于 2008-11-21 10:24:43 | 只看该作者
車低卒士象全 例勝 車高兵光帥.. 關鍵是用 將銓帥兵, 車銓車兵, 迫紅車不能守中線.. 所以不能棄兵, 棄兵必敗. [/quote] 弃兵和丢车哪个划算? 虽然必败,红方绝不能放弃,走出最顽强的应着,也许就能出现机会,不到最后一步,什么事情都会发生。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-11-25 14:26:26 | 只看该作者

回复 9# catjoke 的帖子

能否演示下“车低兵仕相全例胜车高兵光帅”
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发表于 2008-11-25 15:01:57 | 只看该作者

回复 11# 梅桔 的帖子

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