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[专题局研究] 孤将寡帅和棋排局征集

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发表于 2009-1-22 09:12:40 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
孤将寡帅和棋排局的结局时,盘面上只剩下红帅与黑将两个棋子。有如下两种情况: 一、最后一个攻子必须吃掉才能和棋。这是最标准的类型。也是这次征集的排局。 二、最后一个攻子可以吃掉,也可以不吃掉,都能成和。不是这次征集的排局。 已有的排局和原创的排局,都在征集的范围之内。
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发表于 2009-1-22 11:52:31 | 只看该作者

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发表于 2009-1-22 12:51:37 | 只看该作者

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发表于 2009-1-22 13:29:38 | 只看该作者

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-1-23 09:28:56 | 只看该作者

《六韬三略》需把移动黑方四路士移至六路

《六韬三略》第三回合可直接吃掉黑4.3位士,不需吃掉黑4.1位士,速和。所以把移动黑方四路士移至六路,才符合征局要求。是否成立,敬请赐教。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-1-23 09:41:03 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2009-1-23 11:02:42 | 只看该作者

 

  本人认为《六韬三略》不需改图。红方之所以先斩底士是求胜的手法,例如接下来黑如误走退士垫将(虽不可能这么笨,但也是变着的一种),红方就可取胜。况且先斩底士正可清除黑方的防卫力量,少了将来的威胁(例如本人曾在原图加上黑方1路黑炮,于去年高雄市嘉年华活动上摆出测试,对方就因忘了先斩底士导致红败)fficeffice" />

 

  再者,某些棋局中红方之所以要走速和之路,乃因不如此走棋则会面临较为复杂的变化。但,这是在『教导』破棋摊的『客人』的走法,如基于学术研究,仍然要往复杂之路深研的。

 

  不过,这是见仁见智的问题。

 

  以上是本人的看法,如有不当,尚祈海涵!

 

 

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发表于 2009-1-23 11:16:51 | 只看该作者

7楼的观点,我大部分都很赞同!只是对“如基于学术研究,仍然要往复杂之路深研的”略作补充订正,我的意见是,固然要深研,但具体到着法上,应体现“劣势求速和、优势求速胜、平势求胜机”。《六韬三略》如您所说,应属于“平势求胜机”。

多说两句,如果某局某方有两路和法的选择,一路速和,另一路“复杂”,但处处被动,稍有不慎就会输棋,己方没有幸胜的机会,那么,这样的“复杂之路”只能作为支变“深研”,而不宜作为主变。换句话说,支变可能比主变更“复杂”。

[ 本帖最后由 mjr 于 2009-1-23 11:31 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-1-28 15:47:40 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2009-2-6 09:17:17 | 只看该作者

三仙斗宝-----崔太权

 

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发表于 2009-3-2 16:17:12 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2009-3-5 19:48:48 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2009-4-26 18:03:04 | 只看该作者

楼上不成立

 

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发表于 2009-4-26 18:17:30 | 只看该作者

3楼也不成立

 

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-28 07:17:11 | 只看该作者

孤芳挺秀改图成和

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发表于 2009-4-28 12:23:19 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-29 07:44:38 | 只看该作者

孤芳挺秀改图成和

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