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[排局杂谈] 新月挂印(江湖排局)探讨

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发表于 2015-4-30 09:39:16 | 只看该作者 |只看大图 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
我现在正在拜读黄政老师的大作《江湖清盘棋秘谱》,P16——20. P17的这个局面,勾起我的旧时记忆。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999957994799899979456463624199999999309999999917609999482755[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]新月挂印[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]413130318981313079596050815150405955404751111707111030311000071700074746071727175747[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ] 这局棋的结论是红胜定,是正确的。 之所以我给这局起名为:新月挂印,是因为红方五个兵组成了一个新月形(新月——D形,残月——C形)。
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-30 09:52:29 | 只看该作者
各位朋友:关于新月挂印的诠正,有不少是将一个红兵移位或删除。本帖是想把黑方增加一子的情况综合汇总,目的在于通过黑方添加一子,能不能成和。请大家踊跃跟帖。谢谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-30 09:57:42 | 只看该作者
曾记得早期的《棋友》(也可能是《棋海新友》,记忆模糊了),刊出了一局“童子拜观音”,着法为红先和,后来有资料诠正:和不了。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999957994799899979646362454199990299309999999917602748559999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-5-27 21:20:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-5-27 21:20:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]将军挂印添象局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4131303179596050625255456353454689813130814146474147508059098089524289294232273709062939064639324648374757583238484917185859474849193837534318161939304064631656[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_1]898131307959605081515040514155654143404243426566[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_1] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]52[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open] [DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]159[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]6147220[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]ashleyspears[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]ashleyspears[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]如按无象局走车一进八,黑速胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [DhtmlXQ_comment16]进炮落底是获胜的关键[/DhtmlXQ_comment16] [DhtmlXQ_comment40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-30 10:01:38 | 只看该作者
现在,我研究此局时又有一些思路,先贴出一个局面,请大家探讨。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999957994799899979456463624199999999309999999917609907482755[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]新月挂印(诠正探讨01)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
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发表于 2015-4-30 10:14:04 | 只看该作者
时鑫老师,有个棋谱搜索方法,操作如下:
方法一:点楼上动态棋盘(如何一个有网的东萍棋盘皆可)的右下角的“棋谱搜索”,在出来的右半部,找到“查找同型局”点击开。

方法二:http://www.ok667.net/zqhuang/showlist.php
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-30 10:14:36 | 只看该作者
黄正先生的大作,P20——21,有两局增加一个黑卒的局面,都是黑胜。 P20(黑胜) [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999957994799899979456399624199999999309999999917609958482755[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]新月挂印[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4131303189813130815160407976404751503031764647454647171950514541514131414746555657471949[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ] P21(古例可和,现例红胜) [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999957994799899979646399624199999999309999999917609958482755[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]新月挂印[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]413130408986605062525556865650565251171547251517254717154725[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-30 10:25:15 | 只看该作者
时鑫老师,有个棋谱搜索方法,操作如下: 方法一:点楼上动态棋盘(如何一个有网的东萍棋盘皆可)的右下角 ...[/quote] 谢谢667老师!我要慢慢学习。预祝您五一快乐!
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-30 10:26:41 | 只看该作者
经667老师的提醒,我又查到一局。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999957994799899979996362454199999999309999999917600927485599[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-1-10 0:10:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-1-10 0:10:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]将军挂印09[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]41313031898131307959556581866063868030318083636483846463848363648388643488483437476527285758171859393141625237674544676844436848525141404342484658571810394928384232465632311015494515655141405031306560304060404540384840100919101556551535192935365556[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1]373045443040525141424434404839494838654738483433180847254838585738363343423257473646494608044676044476720919724244345141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]37674838314139496747585728385747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]656688482728472566675747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_4]2737888464638483636459393727833331413936[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_5]843431416252656634646667646727284765176757472838595663735676[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_6]62616343863630403616656616662737[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_11_7]861627371610303110176566[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_11_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_8]4544630386066566066603076616273716173747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_9]8636304062526303360665660666030766604041525141316010273710173747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10]8616630316176566171030314725666757470343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_11]6050815150405955404751503031501017071000071700072737454417274443474507273727574748585557[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_12]55458185606385456303450503436252[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_13]815160407976404776464745464745254717273717273040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_13_10_14]47375747485847575868574727284748171848475545514168584757584857472838463637274111454647573040[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_10_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_21_15]46364546473746363747363747571817[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_21_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_19_16]4849685851555848495918195550303150102829101909194544293944433727[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_19_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_11_17]511137361117271757474858[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_11_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_18]795960506252556563536566898131308161666761672728472517675747283845445070[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_19]30407959605062525545524245556353[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_20]89866050625255568656505679395626524227283937262742321737[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_21]797060638939273739376333[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_22]795960506252554552424546[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_22] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]339[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]江湖残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]将军挂印系列[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]将军挂印[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]217[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]5632990[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]667[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment1]红另有三种着法均负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [DhtmlXQ_comment62]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment62] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_20] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_9]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_9] [/DhtmlXQ]
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发表于 2015-4-30 13:06:02 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2015-4-30 14:04:31 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]将军挂印红酒改(最后形成将军挂印走闲正和局面)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8999479957999999997999414562639999999999309999999917600823274855[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4131303189813130795960508151504059554047511123244544474611172717574748385557242557174616475738485747483847573848574748384757252617372627373216175758273732421718585718126353126244346269423269395343081843421828323739373433384857473739474828384838393342413336[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_1]4434252617372636371736464737161117151131344446363747318115353646475738483545815144433031434248384543515043455051626151506362081845431828434528184543182843452818454318284345[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]将军挂印红酒改||||作者:一杯红酒||||最后形成将军挂印走闲正和局面![/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment64]将军挂印走闲,正和![/DhtmlXQ_comment64] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_65]将军挂印走闲,正和![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_65] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]
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发表于 2015-4-30 16:30:22 | 只看该作者
10楼可能黑胜: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8999479957999999997999414562639999999999309999999917600823274855[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]将军挂印红酒改(最后形成将军挂印走闲正和局面)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4131303189813130795960508151504059554047511123244544474611172717574748385557242557174616475738485747483847573848574748384757252617372627373216175758273732421718585718126353126244346269423269395343081843421828323739373433384857473739474828384838393342413336[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_1]4434252617372636371736464737161117151131344446363747318115353646475738483545815144433031434248384543515043455051626151506362081845431828434528184543182843452818454318284345[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]将军挂印红酒改||||作者:一杯红酒||||最后形成将军挂印走闲正和局面![/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment64]将军挂印走闲,正和![/DhtmlXQ_comment64] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_65]将军挂印走闲,正和![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_65] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_2]46065717060717142425143425264737382837472627474808184443283848493040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]这样黑胜了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_36][DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]这样用可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_35_3]48380708383927373949374749594748[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_35_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]也黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_42] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-30 16:30:48 | 只看该作者
谢谢您一杯红酒好友!您的该局很精彩!关于添加黑卒,我有几个思路,您的这局和我的思路很相似(我没加黑3.3位卒),我只是即兴思路。您是付出了很大精力!敬佩!
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-4-30 16:40:33 | 只看该作者
10楼可能黑胜:[/quote] 谢谢您的精彩分享!探讨新的着法,启迪新的局面。为华工和排局事业尽我的一份力努力,我渴盼!
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发表于 2015-5-1 01:26:07 | 只看该作者
古婺 发表于 2015-4-30 16:30
10楼可能黑胜:

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]将军挂印红酒改(正变3最后形成将军挂印走闲正和局面)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment55]将军挂印走闲,正和![/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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发表于 2015-5-1 13:51:03 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2015-5-1 15:55:31 | 只看该作者
14樓結尾棋圖很美呵呵
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发表于 2015-5-1 20:55:44 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 邢春波 于 2015-5-1 21:51 编辑

这是我的修订局
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8999479957999999997999414562639999999999309999999917602499274855[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]将军挂印)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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发表于 2015-5-1 21:33:27 | 只看该作者
sdndsx 发表于 2015-4-30 10:01
现在,我研究此局时又有一些思路,先贴出一个局面,请大家探讨。

好像黑勝
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999957994799899979456463624199999999309999999917609907482755[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]新月挂印(诠正01)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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19#
发表于 2015-5-1 22:05:36 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2015-5-2 10:18 编辑
sdndsx 发表于 2015-4-30 10:26
经667老师的提醒,我又查到一局。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment29_59]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]
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20#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-2 20:56:47 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-5-7 05:25 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2015-5-1 21:33
好像黑勝


谢谢您的精彩解拆!我发这个帖子,预想的是红方五个兵(新月形)的位置不作变动(如:1楼、3楼、4楼、18楼)。

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21#
发表于 2015-5-2 22:23:20 | 只看该作者
6樓第2局,規則判決應是紅勝
22#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-3 17:20:24 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-5-7 05:25 编辑

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23#
发表于 2015-5-3 22:50:32 | 只看该作者
我也有了想法, 呵呵呵,另外百25有我的五卒掛印局
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24#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-4 10:59:19 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2015-5-3 22:50
我也有了想法, 呵呵呵,另外百25有我的五卒掛印局

谢谢您!我试解好像是黑胜。请您指正。

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25#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-4 11:10:00 | 只看该作者
您在百25第206页的大作贴上,谢谢您的提示。

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26#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-4 11:15:40 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2015-5-2 22:23
6樓第2局,規則判決應是紅勝

6樓第2局,規則判決應是紅勝,我已经改过来了。谢谢您。
27#
发表于 2015-5-4 11:16:49 | 只看该作者

28#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-5-4 11:31:00 | 只看该作者
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-5-4 11:16

谢谢您!棋图很美!
29#
发表于 2015-5-5 11:59:05 | 只看该作者
sdndsx 发表于 2015-5-4 10:59
谢谢您!我试解好像是黑胜。请您指正。

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30#
发表于 2015-5-5 12:15:51 | 只看该作者
楼上尾盘循环局面,个人觉得是黑单方长打,不变判红胜!

这种循环局面确实需要讨论明确呀!
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