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[排局诠正] 鹬蚌相持《梦入神机》着法正确否?

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发表于 2014-11-12 00:19:39 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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2#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-11-12 10:15:48 | 只看该作者
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3#
发表于 2014-11-12 10:29:52 | 只看该作者
[/quote] 第三回红走炮四平六如何?
4#
发表于 2014-11-12 10:45:50 | 只看该作者
结尾多兵胜。也可炮四平七。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999994849394799759959999999850670994230404160999972990383999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 1:48:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 1:48:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]035鹬蚌相持[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]75730304595370715323415223294224[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]2845[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]419790[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]提示:红车顶住炮打卒胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment1]进车压缩黑方车炮的空间,控制它的活动范围。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]如改走炮四平二,象5退3,炮二进七,红方车炮被封,无法脱身,黑方可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_5]如改走炮四平一,车8平9,红虽得一卒,但黑炮可以脱身,进入纠缠相持,得不偿失。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]以后打卒,红方可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_1]422053136042131741501707[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_2]5313415213177111[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_3]53334152333742243707604207047101040372627383[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_3] [/DhtmlXQ]
5#
发表于 2014-11-12 10:57:06 | 只看该作者
1楼棋局看上去,局面很简单,着法很常规,红胜结果也很明朗。------我觉得没问题! 不过,既然楼主拿此局来说事,说明此局尚有可疑之处。------是不是黑方可以早些吃兵成和? [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]035鹬蚌相持[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7599473949489999995999068599999970994230404160999972990383999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]757303045955707155257151737251557274558574048545[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]提示:红车顶住炮打卒胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment1]进车压缩黑方车炮的空间,控制它的活动范围。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [DhtmlXQ_comment12] 红相死定,如果黑卒再能过河,黑方有很大的和棋希望。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]
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发表于 2014-11-12 11:09:13 | 只看该作者
炮四平五呢 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999994849394799759959999999850670994230404160999972990383999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 1:48:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 1:48:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]035鹬蚌相持[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]7573030459537071534340504346717047297071464771704707[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]2845[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]419790[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]提示:红车顶住炮打卒胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment1]进车压缩黑方车炮的空间,控制它的活动范围。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]如改走炮四平二,象5退3,炮二进七,红方车炮被封,无法脱身,黑方可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_5]如改走炮四平一,车8平9,红虽得一卒,但黑炮可以脱身,进入纠缠相持,得不偿失。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]以后打卒,红方可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_1]422053136042131741501707[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_4]5323415223294224[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_4][DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_2]5313415213177111[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_3]53334152333742243707604207047101040372627383[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_5]717047297071434771704707[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_5] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-11-12 11:35:38 | 只看该作者
炮四平五呢[/quote] 第6回黑应走象5退3,红不能平炮打卒3!
8#
发表于 2014-11-12 11:52:41 | 只看该作者
新着法,和棋? [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]035鹬蚌相持[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7599473949489999995999068599999970994230404160999972990383999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]75730304595570715525422425296042290941500907422007082042[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]
9#
发表于 2014-11-12 13:13:45 | 只看该作者
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10#
发表于 2014-11-12 15:32:15 | 只看该作者
這樣是否仍保優勢 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7599473949489999995999068599999970994230404160999972990383999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]035鹬蚌相持[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_round]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]757303045953707153837181858472627303[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_1]595570715525422425296042290941500907422007082042[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_1] [/DhtmlXQ]
11#
发表于 2014-11-13 09:00:03 | 只看该作者
[/quote] 如果黑方第1步不进卒,结果可形成红方大双兵的局面。你以前对此类实用残局有过论述,黑方要输棋。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]035鹬蚌相持[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round]梦入神机[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7599473949489999995999068599999970994230404160999972990383999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]757370710605415059894220898371818584[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment9]红方胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment9] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]
12#
发表于 2014-11-13 12:46:21 | 只看该作者
迟暮寒士 发表于 2014-11-13 09:00
如果黑方第1步不进卒,结果可形成红方大双兵的局面。你以前对此类实用残局有过论述,黑方要输棋。 ...


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