这个局面仍在探讨中。。。

sdndsx

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[DhtmlXQ_title]这个局面仍在探讨中。。。[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局面东萍象棋网叫作 一夫当关。||大师网飞云逍遥发帖探讨。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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sdndsx

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]东萍网给出的答案。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]2a[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]2a3a[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]!||2a3a5A[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]\u003D||2a3a5B[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]2a3b[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_6]2a3c[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_27]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_4]2b||[dzhao 增加变化][/DhtmlXQ_comment6_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_5]![/DhtmlXQ_comment6_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_7]随后变化与||2a3a5A||相同[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_7]
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sdndsx

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0_0]棋星 老师 给出的答案。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0_0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]车九退二[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
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sdndsx

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]关键局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]棋星 老师 给出的着法，结论和棋。||无形无极 老师：顶和的关键着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
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sdndsx

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_1]棋星 老师 给出的着法，结论为和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_1]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]飞云逍遥 老师 给出的着法，结论为和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]我的探讨着法。好像也是和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这个局面也很关键！||无形无极 老师 参与了探讨！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]这样走可以吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
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杨启忠

sdndsx 发表于 2017-6-20 07:43

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]棋星 老师 给出的答案。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]车九退二[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
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桑莫喜

聨吟客 发表于 2017-6-20 17:58

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]棋星 老师 给出的答案。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]这样呢.[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]
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桑莫喜

聨吟客 发表于 2017-6-20 18:34
這樣看看

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]棋星 老师 给出的答案。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]这样呢.[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]
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sdndsx

谢谢  杨启忠、联姻客、桑莫喜 老师的探讨！握手！点赞！献花！

愚见：发挥大家的智慧，集思广益，借助发达的棋软，这个局面是胜是和？一定会有一个定论。

敬请大家继续探讨。

zff9876

请教老师手机如何上传棋图和棋谱，谢谢了！

sdndsx

zff9876 发表于 2017-6-21 07:04
请教老师手机如何上传棋图和棋谱，谢谢了！

谢谢您的关注和支持！
我就是个手机盲！目前只会手机的接听和看短信，连发短信都困难，只习惯于电子信箱(sdndsx@126.com)交流。至今不会手机上网。QQ、微信、网游等，一概不会（单位相关部门要求必须有微信，我却至今没有）。不是学不会，而是不想学。自认为落后时代不止10年，对手机有逆反心理吧。

zhaodi

这局是裘望禹老师的《少子百局谱》中的一夫当关，原谱认为红胜，经研究和棋。陆俊杰兄在他的《残排杂感》一书中邮记载。化工网原来也研究过此局，不知还能搜索到吗。

天宇浪人

zhaodi 发表于 2017-6-21 17:23
这局是裘望禹老师的《少子百局谱》中的一夫当关，原谱认为红胜，经研究和棋。陆俊杰兄在他的《残排杂感》一 ...

我在《炮兵残局探秘》中用的是简化局，我记得赵老师您曾在哪一期的《象棋资料汇编》（北方好汉蒋泽文主编的非正式出版物）上介绍过此局的诠正着法的。

老鸽子

zhaodi 发表于 2017-6-21 17:23
这局是裘望禹老师的《少子百局谱》中的一夫当关，原谱认为红胜，经研究和棋。陆俊杰兄在他的《残排杂感》一 ...

裘望禹《少子百局谱》之“一夫当关”，应是改自适谱之“怯勇自服”。两者虽然子力配置和位置有所不同，但杀法完全相同。适谱仅有一只一路原位卒，另外加了一只三路河口卒，也是红胜。今天是头一次见到推翻此局的红胜结论，获益匪浅！