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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-23 08:01
标题: 星移斗轉
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]515431325434743460104858595856575857345457475451101842641838324281875171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-23 08:03
茲研究,第9回黑應車6平9可勝 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]515431325434743460104858595856575857345457475451101842641838324281875181877781863836867677578986361641321626425226363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45] [DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_11]16367679464579494737493937473936[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_11] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-23 08:07
此局各詮注本也大都認為黑勝,我以前研究了很多年很多心血,發現一種新的走法似可和,請徃下樓

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-23 08:12
在智弈網的綜合整理,(紅車四平二的變著為yjr123補充完善) [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]5154313254347434601048585958565758573454574754511018426418383242818051508081505638368986818041503634564647378689373889298087464838394847878629203432424132334142333242413233415133535141533341513353514153334142333242413233414233324241323347578606415106015707333151523938524238390703393803433132424132352029010743483839484707062920353341423332424132334142333242413233202906264749393829392636392936262939263639363336[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45] [DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_19]8187518187778186383686767757898636264132261642521612764647378682373846475756474656575242121746483839828117114847575847375838818011108081101181801121374738088030213132413121473708383038[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_11_37_12]4737707634324241464576463235868545444644[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_37_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_27_11]263676795756795956765956767056763634767034647076644442524645764647378681445452424544813144344636[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_27_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_29_13]1612794947374939374739364748364648388682[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_29_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_28_14]767916147949473749461434464737384757[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_28_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_29_15]16363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_29_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_33_16]121452423738464838394847575847493938494838394858[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_33_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_59_17]08384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_59_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_51_18]101437383938813114343134[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_51_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_20]56504645508045444150444342413646808243534151535282524686524247375141863642493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_20] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-23 08:35
各詮注本第9回炮一進一的變化第10回大都走炮一退五,12回炮一平七, 演成黑勝,茲研究12回紅仍走炮沉底似有和局的契機(同樓上),有請大家參考研究指教

此局以前我投入了大量的時間心血以及深厚感情,也是我最喜愛的棋局之一

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-23 23:23
咦?yjr123兄補充的車四平二變化好像走法有點問題? [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]515431325474426081873231747856467868608268784152786882646878313278684647878838398848474868488981483832423831394959585241313341523343[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45] [DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_19]8187518187778186383686767757898636264132261642521612764647378682373846475756474656575242121746483839828117114847575847375838818011108081101181801121374738088030213132413121473708383038[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]54347434601048585958565758573454574754511018426418383242818051508081505638368986818041503634564647378689373889298087464838394847878629203432424132334142333242413233415133535141533341513353514153334142333242413233414233324241323347578606415106015707333151523938524238390703393803433132424132352029010743483839484707062920353341423332424132334142333242413233202906264749393829392636392936262939263639363336[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_11_37_12]4737707634324241464576463235868545444644[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_37_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_27_11]263676795756795956765956767056763634767034647076644442524645764647378681445452424544813144344636[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_27_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_29_13]1612794947374939374739364748364648388682[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_29_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_28_14]767916147949473749461434464737384757[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_28_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_29_15]16363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_29_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_33_16]121452423738464838394847575847493938494838394858[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_33_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_59_17]08384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_59_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_51_18]101437383938813114343134[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_51_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_20]56504645508045444150444342413646808243534151535282524686524247375141863642493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_8]68673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_21]4878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_23]818031515241515380505343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_23][DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_22]5241313941523949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_22] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-23 23:32
黑應提前退炮 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]51543132547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464787883839884889816864474864343242344442324448815148583242[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45] [DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_19]8187518187778186383686767757898636264132261642521612764647378682373846475756474656575242121746483839828117114847575847375838818011108081101181801121374738088030213132413121473708383038[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]54347434601048585958565758573454574754511018426418383242818051508081505638368986818041503634564647378689373889298087464838394847878629203432424132334142333242413233415133535141533341513353514153334142333242413233414233324241323347578606415106015707333151523938524238390703393803433132424132352029010743483839484707062920353341423332424132334142333242413233202906264749393829392636392936262939263639363336[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_11_37_12]4737707634324241464576463235868545444644[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_37_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_27_11]263676795756795956765956767056763634767034647076644442524645764647378681445452424544813144344636[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_27_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_29_13]1612794947374939374739364748364648388682[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_29_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_28_14]767916147949473749461434464737384757[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_28_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_29_15]16363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_29_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_33_16]121452423738464838394847575847493938494838394858[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_33_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_59_17]08384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_59_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_19_51_18]101437383938813114343134[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_51_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_20]56504645508045444150444342413646808243534151535282524686524247375141863642493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_8]68673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_24_25_21]4878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_24_25_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_24_28_23]818031515241515380505343[/DhtmlXQ_move_24_28_23] [DhtmlXQ_move_24_28_22]5241313941523949[/DhtmlXQ_move_24_28_22] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_24]474868488981483832423831394959585241313341523343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_24] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_25]48584748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_26]4818815118584748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_26] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-25 07:58
這一兩天我剛好買到陸曙光詮注本,查了此局 , 結論也認為黑勝,對於車四平二的變化也是相同的疏失

但我的和局走法也不保證一定正確,有請大家集思廣益來研究

確認此局究竟能否和局吧

作者: yjr123 时间: 2011-5-25 12:27
对车四平二的着法应该这样走比较好

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[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_19]8187518187778186383686767757898636264132261642521612764647378682373846475756474656575242121746483839828117114847575847375838818011108081101181801121374738088030213132413121473708383038[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]54347434601048585958565758573454574754511018426418383242818051508081505638368986818041503634564647378689373889298087464838394847878629203432424132334142333242413233415133535141533341513353514153334142333242413233414233324241323347578606415106015707333151523938524238390703393803433132424132352029010743483839484707062920353341423332424132334142333242413233202906264749393829392636392936262939263639363336[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_19_28_14]767916147949473749461434464737384757[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_28_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_19_29_15]16363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_29_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_27]415278688264687831327868464787883839884889816864474864343242344442324448815148583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_27][DhtmlXQ_comment12]这样比较简洁[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2011-5-26 10:54

茲研究,第9回黑應車6平9可勝
聨吟客发表于 2011-5-23 08:03

第10回合红方炮一平四，黑方如何胜？

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-26 23:41
這樣黑可否勝 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]515431325434743460104858595856575857345457475451101842641838324281875181875781863836865636168987474856571613575646455646485887471343423243414745414446475859474844434544434032314043313043414442[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45] [DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_27_11]16367679464579494737493937473936[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_27_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_12]877781863836867677578986361641321626425226363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_13]5787567687578986361641321626425226363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_15]38338646473789803738464838394847575880303313413258384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_15_31_16]58384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_31_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_14]1343423243418782414382424645565545445553[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_31_18]4645564648588747[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_31_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_19]483857471612413212324241323141403136878646454745[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_19][DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_17]46458780[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_13_29_20]16367679[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_29_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_21]13168786[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_22]57675666[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_22] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_23]57775676[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_23] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: yjr123 时间: 2011-5-27 07:44
如果楼上着法成立，则4楼第10回合的炮一退一就是败着，因为黑方接走车6平9后可同楼上胜法。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2011-5-27 07:50
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_27_11]16367679464579494737493937473936[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_27_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_12]877781863836867677578986361641321626425226363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_13]36168987474856571613575646455646485887471343423243414745414446475859474844434544434032314043313043414442[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_15]38338646473789803738464838394847575880303313413258384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_31_16]58384749[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_31_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_29_14]1343423243418782414382424645565545445553[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_29_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_14_31_18]4645564648588747[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_31_18]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_24]87578986361641321626425226363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_24][DhtmlXQ_comment25]黑方难胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-27 10:39
嗯,那砲一退一仍按照各譜改走砲一退五 ,12回合再走砲沉底,可行否 ?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-27 10:45
嗯,陸詮本對1樓走法詮注認為9回合黑車平8仍可勝, 如無誤就按照他的走法

作者: yjr123 时间: 2011-5-27 12:26
陸詮本是哪个出版社哪年出版的？

作者: 667 时间: 2011-5-27 12:36
河南科学出版社，2007年1月

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-27 16:00
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2011-5-27 16:05 编辑

我還沒研究陸詮本的上述變化,再研究看看囉

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-28 06:43
陸本對1樓走法的詮注主法

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[DhtmlXQ_comment45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_1]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-28 06:45
是這樣
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[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10]8929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10][DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-28 07:17
回复 20# 聨吟客

這樣走頑強一點,黑還要大費周章調整陣形
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10]8929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]873789093707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_21]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-30 05:14
樓上走法黑能調整到取勝的形勢嗎 ?好像還很頭痛

作者: yjr123 时间: 2011-5-30 07:57
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10]8929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]873789093707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]143459503464324164624152626346483839484739385030[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_22][DhtmlXQ_comment38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-5-30 11:43
回复 23# yjr123

嗯,補充
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10]8929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-26 17:12
各種變化零散還未作最正確的匯集整理,呵呵呵,看來又是一項大工程

作者: 飞天神弈 时间: 2014-10-26 20:31
确实是和局。

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-10-26 20:56
如果按亚规，可以和棋，按大陆棋规，应是黑胜。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-26 21:20

zhaodi 发表于 2014-10-26 20:56
如果按亚规，可以和棋，按大陆棋规，应是黑胜。

哦?主要看4樓後半段變化,紅應該沒有違反大陸規則吧?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-26 22:19
越來越覺得此局可算大局了,呵呵呵,如果要投稿還得採眾家之長 ,我還有蔣 .朱.裘三人合詮的版本 (這本認為此局黑勝),但這麼多版本變化,整理時要如何取捨呢/?呵呵呵..... 很累人耶....,或是可以偷懶只把4樓主變投稿交差了事?

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-10-26 22:24
我说的是红第九回合炮一退六变。

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-26 22:35
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-10-27 12:20 编辑

棋谱都是象5进7，增加象5进3的变化。
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[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_10]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-10-26 23:50
本帖最后由 yuntao云涛于 2014-10-26 23:51 编辑

★星海★ 发表于 2014-10-26 22:35
棋谱都是象5进7，增加象5进3的变化。

黑14回合改成炮6进3，黑胜
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_14]8183[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_13]81875181877781863836867677578986361641321626425226363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment28]||黑改成这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-27 08:31
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-10-27 08:37 编辑

yuntao云涛：黑14回合改成炮6进3，黑胜

32楼黑胜不成立
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_10]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_11]16367679464579494737493937473936[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]42641838324281805150808350563836898636264252262456464737648283135251[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_14]8183[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment28]||黑改成这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-10-27 10:28

★星海★ 发表于 2014-10-27 08:31

是黑胜
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_10]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_11]16367679464579494737493937473936[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]42641838324281805150808350563836898636264252262456464737648283135251[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_14]8183[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_13]81875181877781863836867677578986361641321626425226363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment28]||黑改成这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-10-27 10:45

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-10-27 10:28
是黑胜

20回合改走炮七退三黑怎么胜？

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-10-27 12:37
本局走完8个回合的形势，菜鸟的残局库结论不知是否能够查到？

作者: 菜鸟来玩 时间: 2014-10-27 15:11
12回合走车六进二黑胜

作者: 菜鸟来玩 时间: 2014-10-27 15:12
本帖最后由菜鸟来玩于 2014-11-5 11:26 编辑

原帖删除，敬请谅解。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-27 16:55
這樣可否

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-27 17:06

菜鸟来玩发表于 2014-10-27 15:11
12回合走车六进二黑胜

黑勝法是如何呢

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-27 17:14
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-10-27 17:17 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2014-10-27 16:55
這樣可否

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16]一将一杀，红变着能不能和还需研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-27 17:29

菜鸟来玩发表于 2014-10-27 15:12
这局面应当分不出胜负，红走车六进二不行。

车六进二黑如何胜？

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-27 17:31
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16]一将一杀，红变着能不能和还需研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]||這樣就和了[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
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作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-10-27 18:23
刚才我和菜鸟走了，末尾菜鸟说红方是长捉，我说大陆棋规一捉一闲。
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作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2014-10-27 18:27
本帖最后由炎与夜于 2014-10-27 18:30 编辑

象棋法官发表于 2014-10-27 18:23
刚才我和菜鸟走了，末尾菜鸟说红方是长捉，我说大陆棋规一捉一闲。

呵呵，是长捉：因为黑炮无根，捉无根子算长捉。但是这仅为一个方面。白方捉炮应该是佯捉（即假捉，《心》中有此类棋规）。可以归为“闲”。具体怎么判，请教高手。

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-10-27 18:34
车六退二是捉，车六进二是闲，有棋规。

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2014-10-27 18:36

象棋法官发表于 2014-10-27 18:34
车六退二是捉，车六进二是闲，有棋规。

呵呵，有些道理。那么，似可以按照法官兄来判：判一捉一闲，双方不变，可以作和。

作者: 飞天神弈 时间: 2014-10-27 18:38
这是一捉一闲，大陆棋规不变作和。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-27 21:56
嗯,亞洲規則44樓長捉, 但用43樓走法應仍可和

所以此局無論大陸規則或亞洲規則,應都能和局

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-10-27 23:41
本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-10-28 11:01 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2014-10-27 21:56
嗯,亞洲規則44樓長捉

不是按大陆棋规诠正的吗？又使用双重标准了。按亚规原谱炮一退六也能走和。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-28 12:16
按照大陸規則,43與44樓都能和,43樓可以不用一將一殺, 只要最後兵平六紅很容易和

但若象5進7好像就只有炮沉底能和, 所以仍應以象5 進7為主變為佳

我很久以前還研究過象5退3, 當時認為不精采也就沒有紀錄下來

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-28 12:31

聨吟客发表于 2014-10-28 12:16
按照大陸規則,43與44樓都能和,43樓可以不用一將一殺, 只要最後兵平六紅很容易和

但若象5進7好像就只有 ...

这样黑方如何胜？
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-28 12:38
52樓9回合紅连走兩步?

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-28 12:41

聨吟客发表于 2014-10-28 12:38
52樓9回合紅连走兩步?

9回合改走退炮。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-28 12:46
我的意思是紅只要走成下圖, ,好像只有這樣應能和

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-28 12:51
這樣炮沉底,可能是唯一的和法?同4樓後半段
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-28 12:51
炮在卒林线也是和。如果飞7路象此时红可车六平七。

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-28 12:59
标题: 9回合也可炮一退四，与炮一退二雷同。
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-10-28 13:13 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2014-10-28 12:51
這樣炮沉底,可能是唯一的和法?同4樓後半段

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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-28 13:26
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-10-29 11:48 编辑

红方受到“残局炮回家”思维定势的影响，按照大陆棋规，第9回合炮跑一退六是败局之源。
象5进7变：
按照大陆棋规，可走沉底炮、卒林炮、巡河炮。
按照亚规，可走沉底炮、卒林炮、巡河炮、炮一退六。
象5进3变:
按照大陆棋规，可走沉底炮、骑河炮、巡河炮、，如走卒林炮黑胜。
按照亚规，可走沉底炮、炮一退，如走卒林炮、巡河炮、骑河炮黑胜。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-28 13:36
乾脆由星海兄整理投稿如何?只要註明有我的研究即可,當然還有yjr123,象棋法官..............等人參與

已出版的譜中的多種變化該如何取捨卻是一大難題

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-28 13:41
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-10-28 13:43 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2014-10-28 13:36
乾脆由星海兄整理投稿如何?只要註明有我的研究即可,當然還有yjr123,象棋法官..............等人參與

已 ...

还是陈兄投稿好。毕竟这是陈兄的苦心研究，YJR123整理了车四平二的重要变化，也出力不小。我也只是做一点点补充。

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-28 14:11

已出版的譜中的多種變化該如何取捨卻是一大難題

已出版棋谱，都是走了炮一退六的劣着（大陆棋规），列出黑胜的着法即可，其余的变化大多不可取。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-28 17:51
星海兄可否把58樓先弄一個大概的主變看看,如沒問題也補充進去

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-28 19:03

聨吟客发表于 2014-10-28 17:51
星海兄可否把58樓先弄一個大概的主變看看,如沒問題也補充進去

着法比较散，黑方没有明显的进攻手段。
欢迎指正：
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]||這樣能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41][DhtmlXQ_comment53]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-28 22:11
这局棋红方如若应对得当，黑方没有明显的进攻手段，例如红方64楼，或11回合走沉底炮，黑方都没有固定的走法，只要红方不失误就是和局。

无论第7回合黑方象怎么飞，红方可以不变应万变，以沉底炮为正着，着法不用走得太长，后面的着法不紧凑，点到为止即可。
对于其他的和棋思路可以稍稍介绍一下。
如果红方选择31楼的走法，黑方是有攻势的，只要红方应对正确，可按照大陆棋规和棋。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-29 09:25
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2014-10-29 09:30 编辑

白老師與外星人喬丹老師最新版本的竹譜對星移斗轉局的結論是如何呢?

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-29 10:16

聨吟客发表于 2014-10-29 09:25
白老師與外星人喬丹老師最新版本的竹譜對星移斗轉局的結論是如何呢?

昨天特意看了，黑胜。

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-29 11:04
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-10-29 18:43 编辑

这一变需要研究一下，与象5进7不同，黑方取胜难度增大，有可能是和局。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]||這樣能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17]象在3路，炮一退六也能和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17][DhtmlXQ_comment19_21]可走仿照7路象之变走炮一进四，局势平稳。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-10-29 16:23
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-29 18:52
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-10-29 21:34 编辑

这一变应该保留：
第10回合炮一退五是棋谱中出现过的走法，被当成黑胜。
此时红方可走炮一进五或者车六平七可和。[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]5154313254347434601048585958565758573454574754511018426418383242818051508085505638368986[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]4224183832428180515080845056383689863634564647378656845424023738565534354644545355543533444533344543535154523839434534335254333454533433535433345453343353555153454939385515330302200313153513333515536315126360123233434943604041524043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]||這樣能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_21_17]8380[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_21_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_19]81875171385871764748415258577646483889395727463687373919272442412421414021225241224219133848[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_17]象在3路，炮一退六也能和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_21]可走仿照7路象之变走炮一进四，局势平稳。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_71]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_71]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_18]41328303425203025251262132410201564647375152212264422225465625754132757252517242[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_40_16]5453383902203938434838395323343323225150223233434843504041524043[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_40_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_28_20]565937385919542446483839484939381939345449462427463627373937544442524441[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_28_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]这是棋谱中出现过的局面，被当成黑胜。||此时红方可走炮一进五或者车六平七可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_13]8187517138587176474876464838413258578939572746368737391927244241241419291424291924214140212040412010192910114140111040411020291920241913244464424447131747431711434511314547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_13]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-29 22:06
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2014-10-29 22:09 编辑

20樓紅　這樣走,黑勝法如何 ?
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[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10]8929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]143459503464324164624152626346483839484739385030[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]595064625052[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-29 22:26
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[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment60]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-29 22:35
恕我愚鈍,所謂炮一退六亞規能和,是走到何種局面呢?

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-10-29 22:40

聨吟客发表于 2014-10-29 22:35
恕我愚鈍,所謂炮一退六亞規能和,是走到何種局面呢?

72楼从17回合开始，红方一直走两将一捉炮。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-29 22:47
嗯,黑進將不讓紅用兩將一捉,會如何?
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[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1]4140010040410010192910114140111040411020291920244636246419136461414061621311624240504272113138483637[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1][DhtmlXQ_comment36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
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作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-10-29 22:58

聨吟客发表于 2014-10-29 22:47
嗯,黑進將不讓紅用兩將一捉,會如何?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]364614643241646259526272[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]5950144442524464524264444252446450406460404160634140636040436065433365555242554542523848365637323353[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]143459503464324164624152626346483839484739385030[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]595064625052[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]626052416062415262634648383948476333524133315051313341323938473733375131[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]6434595034314648383948473938505131334132332347373837513123333133[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-29 23:20
所以炮一退六亞規也是黑勝?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]364614643241646259526272[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]143459503464324164624152626346483839484739385030[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]595064625052[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]626052416062415262634648383948476333524133315051313341323938473733375131[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]6434595034314648383948473938505131334132332347373837513123333133[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1]4140010040410010192910114140111040411020291920244636246419136461414061621311624240504272113138483637[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_63_2]332347373837513123333133[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_63_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_10]641410303707524107024748383948460208413208384649[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_51_24]14104707[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_51_24]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-29 23:25
喔, 76樓退車頑強

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-29 23:45
再看看

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]364614643241646259526272[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]143459503464324164624152626346483839484739385030[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]595064625052[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]626052416062415262634648383948476333524133315051313341323938473733375131[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]6434595034314648383948473938505131334132332347373837513123333133[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2]09190001414201074636071719291727291927244241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2][DhtmlXQ_comment46]||黑炮脫身能勝否\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment46][DhtmlXQ_comment34]||這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
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作者: 飞天神弈 时间: 2014-10-30 05:54
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2]09190001414201074636071719291727291927244241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]||黑炮脫身能勝否\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]||這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-10-30 06:46
77楼24回合炮六进七黑如何胜？

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-10-30 10:30
本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-10-30 10:37 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2014-10-29 23:45
再看看

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||　　以下着法，是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出（2000年1月上海文化出版社出版）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2]09190001414201074636071719291727291927244241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]||黑炮脫身能勝否\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]||這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_10]38392868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_10]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-10-30 10:51
嗯,81,82樓黑都難勝,亞規的研究就告一段落吧, 投稿當然以大陸規則為準　

最近有點事,又此局複雜,可能多日以後才能整理出來......

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-5 03:14
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2014-11-5 04:08 编辑

先這樣,大家認為象5進3或車六平七的變化要加上去嗎　?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1]81875171385871764748764648384132873789093707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878896978686979877731307776464776784152[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_27_23]5878424178714140717040417000091900014140010040410010192910114140111040411020291920244636246419136461414061621311624240504272113138483637[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]败着。此變由yjr123余俊瑞先生完善走法 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]此變由星海曾峻嶺先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]此變由余俊瑞先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]此變參考陸曙光詮註本的走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]這是我多年研究認為可和的一種走法 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]56504645508045444150444342413646808243534151535282524686524247375141863642493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]5041868041508086[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]這個古局局多種現代詮註本的走法與結論大部分認為黑勝,也有認為和局但走法有錯誤的,我曾多年苦心研究發現一種和局的正確走法,在華工網討論獲得支持, 並且網友們也補充完善一些變化o[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]||黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]
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作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2014-11-5 03:33
呵呵，陈先生开始研究和补充此局变化了，祝愿先生最终整理发掘出此局一套准确而完整的着法。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-5 03:52

炎与夜发表于 2014-11-5 03:33
呵呵，陈先生开始研究和补充此局变化了，祝愿先生最终整理发掘出此局一套准确而完整的着法。

呵呵,多謝!星海兄與法官等人也發現其他一些可能的和法, 但有的比較複雜
,樓上還沒定稿,看要如何補充比較好　

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-11-5 08:21

聨吟客发表于 2014-11-5 03:52
呵呵,多謝!星海兄與法官等人也發現其他一些可能的和法, 但有的比較複雜
,樓上還沒定稿,看要如何補充比較 ...

加一些文字说明，不用列着法：“如果第7囡合走象5进3，此时炮一退六也能和”、“除了沉底炮，此时车六平七亦可”

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-6 00:06
感謝星海兄

,大家看看這樣可以了嗎

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878896978686979877731307776464776784152[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]败着。此變由yjr123余俊瑞先生完善走法 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]此變由星海曾峻嶺先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]此變由余俊瑞先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]此變參考陸曙光詮註本的走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]56504645508045444150444342413646808243534151535282524686524247375141863642493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]5041868041508086[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]||黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]曾峻嶺先生提出如象5進3,車八平六再炮一進一或退六也能和,曾先生同意走法從略 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment14][DhtmlXQ_comment23]這是我多年研究認為可和的一種走法 o曾峻嶺先生提出還有車六平七變化也應能和,但較複雜,曾先生同意走法從略 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23][DhtmlXQ_comment0]這個古局 ,多種現代詮註本的走法與結論大部分認為黑勝,也有認為和局但走法有錯誤的,我曾多年苦心研究發現一種和局的正確走法,在華工網討論獲得支持, 並且網友們也協助補充完善一些變化o[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_19_10]885871775857898738337776474876464838464838394847575687803938474838394846565746475756803056364737[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_19_10][DhtmlXQ_comment8_60]黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_60][DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑勝o[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42][DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]此變參考蔣權朱鶴洲裘望禹三人詮註本的走法,只作重點演變 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-6 10:32
這樣是否可以定稿了呢

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1]81875171385871764748764648384132873789093707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_8]81885171383671774748777848497888464588584544898036768040767241524443423243333231727040414939415170765241761658481656515233323130323130405616525016114152111448461434524139385052[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878896978686979877731307776464776784152[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_27_23]5878424178714140717040417000091900014140010040410010192910114140111040411020291920244636246419136461414061621311624240504272113138483637[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]败着。此變由yjr123余俊瑞先生完善走法 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]此變由星海曾峻嶺先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]此變由余俊瑞先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]此變參考陸曙光詮註本的走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]56504645508045444150444342413646808243534151535282524686524247375141863642493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]5041868041508086[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]||黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]曾峻嶺先生提出如象5進3,車八平六再炮一進一或退六也能和,曾先生同意走法從略 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]這是我多年研究認為可和的一種走法 o曾峻嶺先生提出還有車六平七變化也應能和,但較複雜,曾先生同意走法從略 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]這個古局 ,多種現代詮註本的走法與結論大部分認為黑勝,也有認為和局但走法有錯誤的,我曾多年苦心研究發現一種和局的正確走法,在華工網討論獲得支持, 並且網友們也協助補充完善一些變化o[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_60]黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑勝o[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]此變參考蔣權朱鶴洲裘望禹三人詮註本的走法,只作重點演變 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_13]8515567615177679464579494757494536568680575880501757415256165057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_14]36388687[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_14][DhtmlXQ_comment14_28]||得炮黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_28][DhtmlXQ_comment13_23]各詮註本的走法,演成黑勝o[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_23][DhtmlXQ_comment13_38]黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_38][DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]竹譜原來的走法,劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
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作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2014-11-6 10:47
本帖最后由炎与夜于 2014-11-6 10:54 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2014-11-6 10:32
這樣是否可以定稿了呢

笔者认为：本局末后黑方车炮有士象、且车占据中路这个形势，对红方车炮无士相应该具有很大的胜机。从1本的着法来看：黑方尚未发挥士象的微妙作用，如果得以充分发挥。可能正路仍为和局，然一旦红方走错就具有许多幸胜的机会。甚至本身也可能是必胜的残局。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-6 10:53

炎与夜发表于 2014-11-6 10:47
笔者认为：本局末后黑方车炮有士象、且车占据中路这个形势，对红方车炮无士相应该具有很大的胜机。

黑棋已經無法調整成取勝的形勢,除了我本人之外,各大華工網高手應該也研究過了

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2014-11-6 10:55
本帖最后由炎与夜于 2014-11-6 10:59 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2014-11-6 10:53
黑棋已經無法調整成取勝的形勢,除了我本人之外,各大華工網高手應該也研究過了

黑方的士是否有达到4路或者6路的高位并对此灵活运用？

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2014-11-6 10:55
动态棋盘很麻烦，不及就地排演方便。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-6 11:00
我的走法就是讓黑方無法調整士的位置

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-11-6 11:17
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-11-6 11:29 编辑

16回合红变：
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||　　黑炮被牵制无法脱身，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878896978686979877731307776464776784152[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_27_23]5878424178714140717040417000091900014140010040410010192910114140111040411020291920244636246419136461414061621311624240504272113138483637[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]败着。此變由yjr123余俊瑞先生完善走法 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]此變由星海曾峻嶺先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]此變由余俊瑞先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]此變參考陸曙光詮註本的走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]56504645508045444150444342413646808243534151535282524686524247375141863642493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]||黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]曾峻嶺先生提出如象5進3,車八平六再炮一進一或退六也能和,曾先生同意走法從略 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]這是我多年研究認為可和的一種走法 o曾峻嶺先生提出還有車六平七變化也應能和,但較複雜,曾先生同意走法從略 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]這個古局 ,多種現代詮註本的走法與結論大部分認為黑勝,也有認為和局但走法有錯誤的,我曾多年苦心研究發現一種和局的正確走法,在華工網討論獲得支持, 並且網友們也協助補充完善一些變化o[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_60]黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑勝o[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]此變參考蔣權朱鶴洲裘望禹三人詮註本的走法,只作重點演變 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_13]8515567615177679464579494757494536568680575880501757415256165057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_14]36388687[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_28]||得炮黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_23]各詮註本的走法,演成黑勝o[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_38]黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]竹譜原來的走法,劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_15]8087[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]红炮在底线黑方也没有好办法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_53][DhtmlXQ_comment57]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-11-6 11:33
呵呵,看來此局紅方和法還真不少,各詮註本的作者們都忽略了這些變化,當然瑕不掩瑜,我們從他們那裡學到更多東西

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-24 12:02
还是这个贴详细。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-24 12:26
時隔多年
回想當時討論盛況還真令人感動

作者: 林铁狼 时间: 2018-11-13 22:48

聨吟客发表于 2018-10-24 12:26
時隔多年
回想當時討論盛況還真令人感動

陈兄好
刚刚才发现这个“斗转星移”，看着挺简单的局面，演变下去竟然有如此多变化
可惜现在没多少人去关注了

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