跨海征东局着法修正

xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-8-19 18:03:57

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黑2路車在3路着法一样
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
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xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-8-22 12:08:16

着法补充修正
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[DhtmlXQ_comment54]牵制成和[/DhtmlXQ_comment54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_41]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-8-21 16:59:01

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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_71]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_71]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
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xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-8-21 17:12:22

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聨吟客发表于 2022-8-21 16:59

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-8-21 23:10:56

這可能是樓主的重大發現 (不知以前有無人提出發表過)
推翻了舊有的走法

不知余老師趙老師邢老師曾老師敖老師大濕等認為呢

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-8-24 11:05:28

版主們這帖子怎麼沒有被選為精華

yjr123 · 发表于 2022-8-24 12:04:31

这是谁的改局？既然是某本棋谱的改局，那么哪来的原谱及各诠注本（第9回合注）？难道各诠注本都采用这个改局？

网上的着法直接转过来的？

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-8-24 16:14:35

古譜就有這圖應是說此局的走法詮正
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-8-24 16:26:48

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查了一下白老師周老師詮注的心武殘編的月明三五局說保留原譜第7變新編走法

已有修正

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-8-24 16:38:21

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xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-8-24 16:45:00

我也有这变，但我觉得比较软，所以重新走了变着

xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-8-25 18:53:21

yjr123 发表于 2022-8-24 12:04
这是谁的改局？既然是某本棋谱的改局，那么哪来的原谱及各诠注本（第9回合注）？难道各诠注本都采用这个改 ...

这是徐家亮、苏德龙版百局象棋谱修改图，在江湖八大排局网络版棋库里也有此局

★星海★ · 发表于 2022-8-25 18:57:34

月明三五原局无误，改成这样就没有必要了

xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-8-25 19:01:25

★星海★ 发表于 2022-8-25 18:57
月明三五原局无误，改成这样就没有必要了

曾老师，这是跨海征东两个改图，实际着法一样一样的，只不过2路車多费一滴油

★星海★ · 发表于 2022-8-25 19:13:47

本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2022-8-26 11:43 编辑

xqahz010 发表于 2022-8-25 19:01
曾老师，这是跨海征东两个改图，实际着法一样一样的，只不过2路車多费一滴油

不是改图，七路兵是原图，八路兵黑胜局才是改图。
心武残编的月明三五就是原局，后面出现的都是改局。

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